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good girls vs sluts

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Girls are sluts for one of three reasons

#1 They are confused and don't know what they want
#2 They are closet prostitutes and sleep with men for dinners, dates, drinks, whatever
#3 They are naive and men take advantage of them (therefore a slut by default) Guy she really likes f's her and leaves her

Guys are sluts for one reason only

They are insecure and need an ego boost by sleeping with lots of girls, They need to prove to themselves that they are worty
 

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Re: Re: Re: good girls vs sluts

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Yes there is. I've even had Speed Seduction used on me (before I knew what it was) by a guy who I was very attracted to and whose personality I liked. He used it well, too...but he still failed in his goal. He was the right guy (I liked him and was attracted to him and was single) and he didn't make a single mistake in his attempts...but I flat out don't do the casual sex thing.
1. I'm not referring to SS.
2. There was something wrong in his game. If he was really skilled, he would have broke down those walls of casual sex. I've done it before. I've also failed before, but I know that if a different guy with a different look ran the same game, he would have succeeded.

So, if you were really attracted to this guy, then that wasn't the problem. His skills weren't good enough.

And no, I'm not calling you a slut. Just telling you that you can get to a place of submission with a man, a point where he makes you feel so comfortable that you can't resist as much as you initially would.

It's actually a pretty geniune connection for a short period of time. Not like a no strings attached, non-emotional freak fest. It's actually quite nice.

Can you feel me?

-Dominant
 

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Like I said, a slut by default. She went into it with good intentions, but got burned in the end
 
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Originally posted by pootwo
I hate 'goody goodies'. The people who never take risks & are stuck in a bland existance.

If a girl has slept around, good for her. She shows she isn't afraid of her sexuality & isn't bothered about the social stigma that comes with it (ie. not caring what others think of her). In many ways, that shows a strong character.
You are a fool to the greatest extent - may you suffer the consequences of the hor kingdom which reigns your mindset and may you be beset by the offspring of the hor which you speak of and may she sting you with the arrows of lust which you dearly worship and may the sting of the arrows of which she cast into your flesh cause you much pain and suffering!!! You foolish bastard – you deserve death for your blashphemy!!!!
 

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I totally disagree with everything written so far. So many sweeping and ignorant generalizations here that it is truly pathetic.

A lot of you need to stop building expectations and assumptions about people, especially women. The biggest freak on the dancefloor can be a dud in the sack and the sweetest girls are often porn queens in disguise!

The formula simple

1. Be real enough to know what you want
2. Be courageous enough to go for it
3. Be wise enough to see that life is full of surprises, and only a fool believes he has an entire gender "figured out"
 

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I don't want to be with a girl that's had Tom, **** and Harry over the last month or two.

Even if you've got the big one, these girls can still be loose! Who wants a girl that's been thrashed over and over by different guys.

the sweetest girls are often porn queens in disguise!
LOL, how so? She's sweet when you take her dinner, but when she's getting double stuffed in the azz .. she's still sweet?

As some of you mature and not all of you will, you'll come to the conclusion that you'll no longer want to be promiscuis and want to have a 'good' girl and girls are the same.

Maturity often besets insecurity .. so alot of the more secure confident girls are more mature and selective, and that's a good thing!
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: good girls vs sluts

Originally posted by Dominant
1. I'm not referring to SS.
2. There was something wrong in his game. If he was really skilled, he would have broke down those walls of casual sex. I've done it before. I've also failed before, but I know that if a different guy with a different look ran the same game, he would have succeeded.


You're wrong. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his "game". He failed because of my values and morals, which are unbreakable. I don't drink at bars, either. I go out to sing karaoke or dance, not to drink. No guy would have been able to get me to have casual sex.

So, if you were really attracted to this guy, then that wasn't the problem. His skills weren't good enough.

Wrong again...I liked everything about him. In fact, if I had of been interested in a relationship with someone at that point I would have been very interested in dating him. The chemistry was all there...but again...I don't do the casual sex thing and I wasn't interested in a relationship at that time in my life.

And no, I'm not calling you a slut. Just telling you that you can get to a place of submission with a man, a point where he makes you feel so comfortable that you can't resist as much as you initially would.

Well, no one could know me and my history and ever consider me a slut. At this time I have abstained from sex for over 4 years. I never feel "uncomfortable" around anyone. I am very confident and secure. I don't have any hang ups over sex or anything...but I DO have incredibly strong morals and values. Even the most successful "player" on the planet would never be able to get me to have casual sex with him. My values and morals are too strong.

It's actually a pretty geniune connection for a short period of time. Not like a no strings attached, non-emotional freak fest. It's actually quite nice.

It may be nice for people with no self-respect or substandard morals...but it's not my style and is nothing I have any interest in.

Can you feel me?

Nope...
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
I don't want to be with a girl that's had Tom, **** and Harry over the last month or two.

Even if you've got the big one, these girls can still be loose! Who wants a girl that's been thrashed over and over by different guys.



LOL, how so? She's sweet when you take her dinner, but when she's getting double stuffed in the azz .. she's still sweet?

As some of you mature and not all of you will, you'll come to the conclusion that you'll no longer want to be promiscuis and want to have a 'good' girl and girls are the same.

Maturity often besets insecurity .. so alot of the more secure confident girls are more mature and selective, and that's a good thing!
I have the same opinion of guys. I mean, hell...I find self-respect and selectiveness regarding who a person is intimate with to be GOOD traits.

I think what he means by "sweet girls" acting like "porn queens" isn't about them sleeping around with many guys. I think he means that they are more sexually adventurous with their partner yet still very selective about who they are like that with.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: good girls vs sluts

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Originally posted by Dominant
1. I'm not referring to SS.
2. There was something wrong in his game. If he was really skilled, he would have broke down those walls of casual sex. I've done it before. I've also failed before, but I know that if a different guy with a different look ran the same game, he would have succeeded.


You're wrong. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his "game". He failed because of my values and morals, which are unbreakable. I don't drink at bars, either. I go out to sing karaoke or dance, not to drink. No guy would have been able to get me to have casual sex.

So, if you were really attracted to this guy, then that wasn't the problem. His skills weren't good enough.

Wrong again...I liked everything about him. In fact, if I had of been interested in a relationship with someone at that point I would have been very interested in dating him. The chemistry was all there...but again...I don't do the casual sex thing and I wasn't interested in a relationship at that time in my life.

And no, I'm not calling you a slut. Just telling you that you can get to a place of submission with a man, a point where he makes you feel so comfortable that you can't resist as much as you initially would.

Well, no one could know me and my history and ever consider me a slut. At this time I have abstained from sex for over 4 years. I never feel "uncomfortable" around anyone. I am very confident and secure. I don't have any hang ups over sex or anything...but I DO have incredibly strong morals and values. Even the most successful "player" on the planet would never be able to get me to have casual sex with him. My values and morals are too strong.

It's actually a pretty geniune connection for a short period of time. Not like a no strings attached, non-emotional freak fest. It's actually quite nice.

It may be nice for people with no self-respect or substandard morals...but it's not my style and is nothing I have any interest in.

Can you feel me?

Nope...
Haha, ironically I'm with wyldfire ... there are women out there that are a lot harder to crack then you would origionally think. I always found it comical when men pop onto this site and assume that all women would give out and all women would have ONS.

But then, it all depends on context and circumstances, and also internal motivations. You can increase your chances by controlling both, but total control is never possible short of being God.
 
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Originally posted by tmpgstx
LOL, how so? She's sweet when you take her dinner, but when she's getting double stuffed in the azz .. she's still sweet?
Haha...funny sh!t...
Clarification: The sweet ones often become YOUR personal porn queen, not the neighborhood bicycle.

Originally posted by tmpgstx
As some of you mature and not all of you will, you'll come to the conclusion that you'll no longer want to be promiscuis and want to have a 'good' girl and girls are the same.
I agree 100%. Just dont fall into the trap of lableling people and making premature assumptions. I honestly believe that the women who make the effort to broadcast their sexuality are actually the least in tune with it.
 

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quote:
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Originally posted by tmpgstx
LOL, how so? She's sweet when you take her dinner, but when she's getting double stuffed in the azz .. she's still sweet?
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All guys want:

"A Lady in the street but a freak in the bed" - Its o.k if a girl gets down and dirty in the bedroom because that makes her "your slut" not "everyone elses slut".

Her behaviour outside the bedroom should not reflect what she does in the bedroom.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: good girls vs sluts

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Originally posted by Dominant
1. I'm not referring to SS.
2. There was something wrong in his game. If he was really skilled, he would have broke down those walls of casual sex. I've done it before. I've also failed before, but I know that if a different guy with a different look ran the same game, he would have succeeded.


You're wrong. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his "game". He failed because of my values and morals, which are unbreakable. I don't drink at bars, either. I go out to sing karaoke or dance, not to drink. No guy would have been able to get me to have casual sex.

So, if you were really attracted to this guy, then that wasn't the problem. His skills weren't good enough.

Wrong again...I liked everything about him. In fact, if I had of been interested in a relationship with someone at that point I would have been very interested in dating him. The chemistry was all there...but again...I don't do the casual sex thing and I wasn't interested in a relationship at that time in my life.

And no, I'm not calling you a slut. Just telling you that you can get to a place of submission with a man, a point where he makes you feel so comfortable that you can't resist as much as you initially would.

Well, no one could know me and my history and ever consider me a slut. At this time I have abstained from sex for over 4 years. I never feel "uncomfortable" around anyone. I am very confident and secure. I don't have any hang ups over sex or anything...but I DO have incredibly strong morals and values. Even the most successful "player" on the planet would never be able to get me to have casual sex with him. My values and morals are too strong.

It's actually a pretty geniune connection for a short period of time. Not like a no strings attached, non-emotional freak fest. It's actually quite nice.

It may be nice for people with no self-respect or substandard morals...but it's not my style and is nothing I have any interest in.

Can you feel me?

Nope...
Ok, there's no point debating about whether YOU could have sex "relatively easy" or not. There's no way you're going to say that you would, there's no way I'm going to budge and say you wouldn't.

I've seen too much, read too much, and experienced too much to say honestly that there are women out there that are incapable of having sex relatively quickly with a man, if not a blatent ONS.

But I gotta comment on a couple of things.

You're wrong. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his "game".

I'm sorry, but there is no way you can state this. You cannot tell whether or not the guy displayed perfect game. There are so many variables to trying to pick-up a girl. There are so many methods. There's SS, GWM, MM, and so many openers and routines and all that. How can you state this guy did the absolute best job possible? You cannot.

That would be like watching Michael Jordon play basketball and stating "There was nothing wrong with his game tonight." Even on his best performance, there's always SOMETHING wrong, SOMETHING he could have done better. A pass he could have made, a shot he could have taken, something.

So there was SOMETHING wrong with the guy's game. In all honestly, if a group of the best players were to dissect it, they would have probably found plenty wrong.

It may be nice for people with no self-respect or substandard morals...but it's not my style and is nothing I have any interest in.

Alright that's just straight a f'd up thing to say. So people who have sex relatively quickly or easily have no self-respect and sub-standard morals?

NONSENSE! I have dated the sweetest, nicest, most moral girls and have had sex with them quickly. No drinking, no drugs, no exploitation.

They've had plenty of self-respect and are going places in life.

Plenty of the guys here have girlfriends who, at some time in their lives, have had sex with someone relatively quickly.

There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with these women. They had sexual desires, and when the opportunity came they took it. It was not a reflection of their self-respect or morals. They didn't do physical or emotional harm to themselves or others. They didn't stick a needle in their arm (a lack of self-respect) or point a gun to someone's head (a lack of morals).

Don't give people a guilt-trip where one is not needed, or even called for.

They are still human beings with self-respect and at least standard morals.


Lastly, whether or not women all women at some time in their lives are capable of having sex relatively quickly and easily, I'm sticking to my guns. I believe all women are capable. Not that they will all do it, because of lack of opportunity, but they are all capable.

I really don't think people at this site welcomes those types of viewpoints, even if they are accompanied by facts or even scientific evidence.

Susan Shapiro Barash, a gender studies professor (AND A WOMAN), states that 60% of women would cheat.

60% of women would cheat. 60% of women, if they were in a relationship, would have a sexual experience with someone else.

Stay with the logic on this.

So, what percentage of women would do something less immoral, like have a sexual experience with someone relatively quickly and easily WITHOUT having a partner to cheat on.

I would say damn near 100% due to my experiences in life. But go ahead and make your own estimation based on what you know. I'd say most of you would fall between the 90-100% range.

In the end, I only advocate the truth. Sum up your experiences with women, and learn from science and from those men who are most successful with woman. Screw opinions and what people think is the truth. Seek the truth yourself.

God makes sure people who think they're wise fall flat on their ass.

-Dominant
 

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If I had of been in the market for a relationship, I most definitely would have wanted to date the guy...that means his "game" was just fine.

It is MY opinion that people who are not very selective in who they choose to be intimate with are lacking in self-respect. They are putting themselves at a higher risk for STDs which is indicative of a lack of respect for their bodies. I also believe it to be morally vacant to offer yourself up like an entree' to whoever will have you. Sorry, but I find that to be utterly disgusting. That is my opinion and I am quite entitled to it. Since it is also my choice regarding who I choose to be intimate with, if I choose to weed out the man-wh*res, that's my perogative. Don't like it? Too bad...it's NOT up to you to determine who is and is not appropriate for me to sleep with. That's MY call to make, thank you very much.
 

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what DOMINANT said

period
 

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The thing about debating this logically (citing statistics, building arguments) is that it's going to get people all emotional without coming to an understanding. Ironically, this topic is all based on emotions - the sweetest librarian chick could be induced to craving DP if her state was blasted enough. This has been documented time and time again by members of the community. It doesn't really matter what p.c. of women say they would cheat or say they would never, because when you're out of state you're probably not in a cheating mood. So the issue here isn't whether women will cheat or not, or whether they're good girls or sluts. The issue is the warped dichotomy that society has imposed on women, a sorting system badly out of step with reality.

Do a lot more reading on the subject from sources within this community with experience (Maniac's archive from mASF is a MUST in my opinion if you want a deep understanding of this... TD's Secret Society post is good too) rather than academic literature by researchers who don't have that experience. The proper mindset is essential to your success, and one of the fundamentals of that mindset is learning how to break down your current reality.
 
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DJ Dominant - you have a warped sense of truth and morality!! Everything you stated is complete nonsense and has no basis in the natural orfer of things and is far from reality!!! You will learn when you get burned from your misguided thinking - which will be soon!!!
 

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I knew this girl. I worked a lot with her in school 2 years ago in english class. She wasn't too lazy and was bright.

Now she is a slvt and is really easy I hear.

It's a sad trend I am afraid.
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
DJ Dominant - you have a warped sense of truth and morality!! Everything you stated is complete nonsense and has no basis in the natural orfer of things and is far from reality!!! You will learn when you get burned from your misguided thinking - which will be soon!!!
Tight argument.

I'll be waiting...

-Dominant
 
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DJ Dominant, you are trying to pick a fight!:rolleyes: I written on this issue many times - the hor mindset is a dangerous mindset and there is such a thing as morality! You will only learn when one of these hors drags you through the mud
 
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