Godfather Part 1 and the DJ

TesuqueRed

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I visited an old flame and her husband + kids over the holidays (15 yrs ago we were an item and have remained very good friends since...)

She's never seen the Godfather movies and (ahem) requested this family drama...

So we rented this classic.

Pacino does a veritable study of what a man would do and gives the performance of why he's the don and Santino, who couldn't control himself, is dead.

We all know that theme from this movie--it's like an old fashioned morality play.

Where it got interesting was where Michael (Pacino's character, the once and future Don) goes to hide in Italy after shooting the NYPD captain on the take.

He meets a ravishing Italian beauty (as only the Italians can be) and falls for her. He inquires at the local watering hole and inadvertently insults her father. His local guards want to get out of there, but Michael has the father called out, apologizes for any unintended insult and invites the family to dinner. He's straight-forward, makes no unnecessary apologies and takes control of the situation.

At the dinner (read: first date) he gives his future wife a present. Of course this was written for dramatic effect, character exposition, and gets a point across in a 120-minute film.

My ex saw this and was shocked--"Never give a girl a present on a first date!!!" she said in disbelief.

Now, the movie was right in that Pacino played Michael, the future Don, as assured, confident and in charge, as someone dealing with problems w/o apology and knowing what to do. You get to see why he got to be the Don, like his father.

By my ex was dead on right, too. Never give a gift to a girl on the first date. She's never been to this site, she and I have never discussed this stuff. She simply recognized how absolutely wrong it was (even though it was done to compress the message and character development of the film...)

Funny how scenes in movies strike you differently after you've been here for awhile.
 

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interesting post but...

First he "apologizes for any unintended insult ", but then you say he's an example of "someone dealing with problems w/o apology".

Great movie though :D
 

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Still, just b/c Michael gave a gift on the first date and went against sosuave principles doesn't mean he screwed up.

The Godfather saga takes place in a different time and that particular scene took place in Italy. Sure you want to be alpha or DJ at any time or place, but your courting behavior is going to depend a lot on the culture.

Say you go to the African savanna and you find a nomadic hunting tribe. Their courting ritual involves the young men going out to hunt large cats and presenting the cat's skin to a possible mate. Would you tell all the young men in the tribe not to do this just b/c it wasn't suggested on sosuave.com?

Back in those days (the era of Godfather saga) even people here in America would get married after having known each other for just 2 weeks.
 

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In Sicily, into the late 60's, it was commonplace to have marriages set up by fathers (especially powerful ones like Appolonia's father).

But, yeah, I watched that movie and noticed some flaws in his strokes, but then I realized:

•Michael Corleone is the MAN
•Vito Corleone was THE MAN ("You can act like a man! <slap> What's the matter with you?!")
•its a movie. ;)

Then I realized that Don Juaning permeates my entire way of thinking. I mean, when you critique movies based on your method of life/of picking up chicks, somethin's making its way into your thought patterns!

Can't say I mind, though.
 

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Originally posted by TesuqueRed

Funny how scenes in movies strike you differently after you've been here for awhile.
It's not just movie scenes, its songs, friends' GFs. Its as if you're seeing the world in a new light. Yes this site and the bible are an enlightment.

Thanks to all the things you learn here you are able to improve the love lifes of other people as well. People will find it surprising how it is that you suddenly are very good at judging whether a girl is interested in them and how their situation is going. Especially if you haven't even applying all the knowledge for yourself. Oh the shock they have when they see you precisely predicting what their GF will do and they never saw it coming.
 
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