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Hey all,

I've had oneitis with this girl for about 18 months now. Everything is pretty good with her. I am 28 she is 23 and is about to graduate grad school.

She is finishing her schooling this summer, and is planning on moving. She says she wants to prove to herself again that she can go to a new place not knowing anyone and experience new things. She says she wants to stay together with me and feels it will make her stronger because she can grow. I can tell the possibility of her leaving me (not the relationship) is really bothering her. I've offered to move with her to a new place next year so we could experience new things together, but she hasn't been very receptive towards that idea.

Anyways bros, I was just looking for some advice. Thanks all.
 

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Long story short, looks like it's game over for you. If she was into you ie had an Interest Level that she needs to have, she wouldn't be moving. Wouldn't even be considering it. Or she'd be begging you to come with her. And you've admitted you have one-itis. Not insulting you, but it seems she sees you as the typical needy chump.

What I would do from this point on? Probably let her go, no more trying to get her to stay. Move on with your life. I probably would try and distance yourself from her as much as possible...just for your own good. This girl's going to break your heart, I hope you listen.
 

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brian123 said:
I've offered to move with her to a new place next year so we could experience new things together, but she hasn't been very receptive towards that idea.

Anyways bros, I was just looking for some advice. Thanks all.
Simply put, women look to men to lead them, not follow them.

Your offer to move WITH HER "to a new place next year so we could experience new things togther " does not exactly ring true.
My guess is that you are willing to attach yourself to her and move with her out of fear of losing her to her new environment with all it's novelty, and it's inevitable temptations.

Just let her go, swallow your hurt and disappointment and go to work on YOUR life..
 

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brian123 said:
She says she wants to stay together with me and feels it will make her stronger because she can grow. I've offered to move with her to a new place next year so we could experience new things together, but she hasn't been very receptive towards that idea.
This was her way of letting you know that you two are breaking up. She wants to grow... without you. She wants to become stronger... without you. If she wasn't receptive to you two moving together, it means... she wants to be without you.

I can tell the possibility of her leaving me (not the relationship) is really bothering her.
The only thing that's really bothering her is having to tell you upfront that she doesn't want to be in that relationship anymore.

It's over, brian.
I'm sorry, but it's time to move on and meet new women!

So, it's exciting times for you!
 

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Yah. She's letting you down nicely. Follow the actions not the words. What do her actions tell you. If you had those actions towards her what would she read into it?
 

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Dear Brian,
Seems a flaky bird to me,forget her,plenty more fish in the Sea.
 

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Thanks all for the responses. They are all very good. I made my intentions very clear to her and she has not reciprocated with her actions. I am going to start spending less time with her and more out with my bros hunting and seeing what else it out there. Mostly however, I am going to work on myself and make myself a better person.

Right now, I am not sure if I should explicitly tell her why I am distancing myself from her, or if I should just stop seeing her so often with little explanation.

End result is the same I guess, time to find new fish.

Thanks all.
 

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brian123 said:
Thanks all for the responses. They are all very good. I made my intentions very clear to her and she has not reciprocated with her actions. I am going to start spending less time with her and more out with my bros hunting and seeing what else it out there. Mostly however, I am going to work on myself and make myself a better person.

Right now, I am not sure if I should explicitly tell her why I am distancing myself from her, or if I should just stop seeing her so often with little explanation.

End result is the same I guess, time to find new fish.

Thanks all.
I wouldn't bother telling her with words. You'll just end up getting in some stupid argument and before and before you know it, you won't even know what you're arguing about. Something that has really come to my attention lately is that we can say so many things better without words.

If she truly wants you, she'll either ask you to come with her, or will choose to stay. But as others have said, it looks like she's trying to let you down easy. She's sending you a message with her actions, you should do the same.
 

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Good advice all.


But I actually disagree with him telling this girl "by his actions" that he's "also" ending the relationship. Although I DO agree that the end result would be the same, I believe it would be BETTER for him if he went ahead and ended it OFFICIALLY. This IS NOT the time to follow a woman's behavioral M.O.------but to boldly and unashamedly flow from your MASCULINE power.

Remember: His mission here is to lose this woman, not lasso her back.

It should come as no surprise to many of you here that Mr. Ruckus' response struck a special chord with me when he simply said:

"Dump her now and win the war."

Here's why:

This woman has been verbally hinting, hemming, and hawing that she wants out of the relationship, but she has been SCREAMING that she wants out of the relationship by her distancing actions.

All of these passive aggressive, subteranean forms of communication is indeed the realm of the woman-------and they naturally do it better. It has been my experience that mirroring the passive aggressive behaviors of women usually work best in situations where the man is trying to win the woman back via "subtle" methods---------methods that she is often taken by surprise by because she KNOWS that this is not the kind of behavior she normally gets from the man.

But THIS situation is different. It appears that this woman has had quite awhile to "sit with" the idea of life without this man (Brian123) to such an extent where she can calmly, logically, unemotionally, and "SMUGLY"(thanks JOPHIL) make plans to dismiss him from her life with the ruthless caculation of an employer telling an employee that he's temporarily SUSPENDING him---------when he KNOWS all along that he's actually FIRING the guy.

Furthermore, Brian has already exposed his vital organs (mainly his HEART) and bared his neck (by overextending himself in a show of support towards this woman who NO LONGER wants him). Of course, I can't be totally sure, but if I was "on leave" in Vegas at the casino, I would "bet" that this woman thinks of him not so much as a man as she does one of the many "beggars and hangers on" that she's probably done this to in the past.

And because of all this, for the sake of his self-esteem, his dignity, and to "salvage" the memory of this time in his life, I believe he should end it officially. But NOT in an emotional way------in a calm, logical, decisive way, spoken in an even tone.

Something like:

"Hey, "Insert Chick-Name" , I've been thinking...you're RIGHT. There REALLY are a lot of changes in store for both of us in a few months. A lot of new things to experience and a lot of new things to discover. I believe it's better that we go our separate ways NOW to give each other the freedom to do what's best for each of us.

I wish you well.

You take care of yourself."

Of course, the exact verbiage is debatable, but the bottom line is that "if" Brian123 ENDS this relationship that's been on life support LONGER than he'd probably care to admit------HE will be able to walk away from a position of INNER STRENGTH and not "weakness".

BUT make no mistake:

This is NOT about teaching the woman a lesson or trying to get BACK at her. Most men here already know that you can't make a woman learn shyt if she's already at the point where she no longer cares about you. No, what this is about is Brian123 giving himself his OWN closure-----and at the same time, be able to look back on this episode in his life as a TURNING POINT:

The time in his life where he "Manned THE FUKK Up" and made a quality decision to show HIMSELF the respect that this woman was too chickenshyt to show him.

The time in his life where he RECOGNIZED that life doesn't always have to be about what "happens" to him---------but about HOW he reacts to what happens.

I believe if Brian123 does TODAY what he knows he'll feel BEST about tomorrow, then the faster the speed will be at which he'll recover from the "exit wounds" that he has sustained from this disinterested woman as she LEAVES his life.






Brian123...Soldier on.
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
BUT make no mistake:

This is NOT about teaching the woman a lesson or trying to get BACK at her. Most men here already know that you can't make a woman learn shyt if she's already at the point where she no longer cares about you. No, what this is about is Brian123 giving himself his OWN closure-----and at the same time, be able to look back on this episode in his life as a TURNING POINT:

The time in his life where he "Manned THE FUKK Up" and made a quality decision to show HIMSELF the respect that this woman was too chickenshyt to show him.

The time in his life where he RECOGNIZED that life doesn't always have to be about what "happens" to him---------but about HOW he reacts to what happens.

I believe if Brian123 does TODAY what he knows he'll feel BEST about tomorrow, then the faster the speed will be at which he'll recover from the "exit wounds" that he has sustained from this disinterested woman as she LEAVES his life.
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Apparently I've repped you one too many times.
And that's exactly what he should say... she's already seen a life without him. He needs the quickest sense of closure possible. If he just "phases" his way out, he's still subconsciously holding on to a lingering possibility that she might want to stay with him.

Cut it right now.

Tell her that it's over.
Not for her... but for YOU.

She already imagined her future without you, why should you imagine one with her?
 

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brian123 said:
I've offered to move with her to a new place next year so we could experience new things together, but she hasn't been very receptive towards that idea.
There's your answer right there. Things with her are not quite as good you think. She's planning to dump you.
 

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brian123 said:
Thanks all for the responses. They are all very good. I made my intentions very clear to her and she has not reciprocated with her actions. I am going to start spending less time with her and more out with my bros hunting and seeing what else it out there.
No man...you should cut her out of your life COMPLETELY. The two of you are over, so why prolong the break up process? Move on.
 

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Seems like everyone's saying the same thing. If she wants to go, you have to let her go. There's really no other option that's not going to generate drama.

It's been real while it lasted...maybe you'll keep in touch, meet up again and pick up where you left off. But more than likely not...so you both have to get back into the pool and see if you can find another mate to satisfy you.

I know it runs contrary to all the, "If you REALLY loved her you'd..." advice you're gonna get from everyone on the outside who doesn't know what the f**k they're talking about, but sometimes you just have to make the mature decision and say, "Maybe next time".
 

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squirrels said:
Seems like everyone's saying the same thing. If she wants to go, you have to let her go. There's really no other option that's not going to generate drama.

It's been real while it lasted...maybe you'll keep in touch, meet up again and pick up where you left off. But more than likely not...so you both have to get back into the pool and see if you can find another mate to satisfy you.

I know it runs contrary to all the, "If you REALLY loved her you'd..." advice you're gonna get from everyone on the outside who doesn't know what the f**k they're talking about, but sometimes you just have to make the mature decision and say, "Maybe next time".

Empty your PM's.
 

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Thanks for the responses all. They def mean alot. The words that resonate the best with me are:

I believe if Brian123 does TODAY what he knows he'll feel BEST about tomorrow, then the faster the speed will be at which he'll recover from the "exit wounds" that he has sustained from this disinterested woman as she LEAVES his life.
I understand the idea that there is a 90-95% of this going nowhere. I've already stuck my hand out to meet her halfway and she has not done that.

Right now, I am torn between what I should do and what I feel I need to do. I know I SHOULD take the advice from everyone here and give her distance/end it. However, for myself and closure I think I need to slowly step back from this and see how things materialize. I am mentally preparing myself for the inevitable bu. I am already working on myself, and going to the gym etc....

Weird, she graduates this week and has been on me for weeks how important it is that I come to her graduation with her and her family and share everything. Also, she has stated that she def wants to stay together if she does move.

I am speaking to her with my actions now. Regardless of the outcome, I want to be in control. I want to make her wonder about me.

Regardless, I think it is apparent to everyone here that I need to work on myself. I have numerous AFC tendencies to get out of that way. And THAT is what is most important here. Sure, if/when the BU happens it will suck. But I will survive. What is more important is that I improve as a person.

Respect all.
 

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Best of luck Brian.

Remember, women will very rarely end a relationship directly. They will do it indirectly, through their behaviors. Basically they want you to get the hint and move on, or wait for you to do something so desperate and needy that they are then justified in calling it quits abruptly.

If she is moving away to 'experience new things' (they love this idea), her heart isnt in the relationship anymore. NEVER move for a woman, unless maybe it's your wife and the circumstances are extenuating. Not the case here. This is Brian's chance to grow as a man. Women dont make the hard decisions---we do.
 

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brian123 said:
I understand the idea that there is a 90-95% of this going nowhere. I've already stuck my hand out to meet her halfway and she has not done that.

Right now, I am torn between what I should do and what I feel I need to do. I know I SHOULD take the advice from everyone here and give her distance/end it. However, for myself and closure I think I need to slowly step back from this and see how things materialize. I am mentally preparing myself for the inevitable bu. I am already working on myself, and going to the gym etc....

Weird, she graduates this week and has been on me for weeks how important it is that I come to her graduation with her and her family and share everything. Also, she has stated that she def wants to stay together if she does move.

I am speaking to her with my actions now. Regardless of the outcome, I want to be in control. I want to make her wonder about me.

Regardless, I think it is apparent to everyone here that I need to work on myself. I have numerous AFC tendencies to get out of that way. And THAT is what is most important here. Sure, if/when the BU happens it will suck. But I will survive. What is more important is that I improve as a person.

Respect all.
We've all gone through a situation like this. I wish I could just tell you something that would lift this all off your mind, but I can't. You have to see it for yourself for you to ever really believe it. But you'll get there.
 

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So how did this turn out? Did you get strung along and now regret that you didn't rise up like the rare man and dump her ass and win the breakup war when you told to? She won and now you feel like crap about it, right?
 
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