Dominance, submission, love and hate

Gubby

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There is a confusion about sexuality nowadays -- which the SoSuave tradition puts down to "feminism". There may be some truth in that, but like communism has done with the "bourgouisie" I think it's become a bit of a bogeyman, and too little thinking is being done on the matter -- but rather we decide, feminism is the source of all problems of sexuality, destroy feminism and happiness is assured!

Nah. Feminism has its good and its bad side, though nowadays the bad side may well be overwhelmingly larger, but whatever -- our real enemy is "The Matrix" (as described in Fingers's Weapons of Mass Seduction). The Matrix is society viewed as if it were a creature of its own. Its mind is the minds of all people joined together in a mass of conformity, and its purposes are not the same as ours -- society doesn't care if you're happy or not, oh no.... it cares that you run the treadmill to keep society going in the way it always has. You can see it in the way that people judge each other, particularly those of different groups, and hate them as if being different was a personal affront. This makes no sense from an individual perspective, but if you view the people as mindless pawns doing their best to perpetuate their society's structure, then it makes perfect sense.

Just as human nature has its good and bad side, the nature of society has its good and bad side -- and the bad side nowadays (or was it always?) is hopelessly out of control. Conformity is created by fear, fear... of what? No, people won't give you a straight answer to why they live life so fast and furious, why they willingly choose to be "stressed"..... here we are, living in paradise with our inventions, with so much food that we have to keep throwing it away.... but we don't relax and congratulate ourselves, we KEEP ON RUNNING as if the dinosaurs were still on our tails!

Anyway, one of the greatest problems of our time is the wussification of men. View it from society's perspective and it makes PERFECT sense! Hey... make naturally energetic, powerful warrior types into weak morons... take away their fighting spirit, then they'll follow easily!


Society's weapon is CONFUSION.

Now I'm gonna get specific. This was supposed to be a shortish post but I got carried away with the introduction.... anyway, what I really wanted to do here was unravel a certain confusion of our time which has been key for me.

Love .... is not the same as submission.

Dominance..... is not the same as hate.


The word "domination" has a certain dark ring to it. In our society we're supposed to be "humble". And we hate being dominated ourselves, so it must be bad!

And love sounds soft, perhaps. It did to me. Somehow I felt that love was connected to submission, so when I needed love I felt I had to submit to get it ------- and in doing so hated myself and sabotaged it.

Being proud is the masculine drive. Take away a man's pride and it is the same as hating him. But take away a woman's pride and it is loving her.


Now let's take a look at pride or STATUS. Think of it as the sexual energy. It is neither bad nor good, it is outside the realm of good and bad -- though the Matrix has tried to confuse us into thinking that it is sin or bad. Of course, if you think sexual energy is bad, you'll automatically lose it and that means giving it to someone else. Who? What? Ahhh....


You can have HIGH status or LOW status.

To DOMINATE someone is to impose a polarity; you are HIGH pride and the other is LOW pride. You take and the other gives; it's sum-zero.

To SUBMIT is to do the opposite thing, give away pride.

However, you can also increase it in BOTH you and the other. This translates as "I'm ok, you're ok". I'm strong, you're strong. Think of a fight in which the winner shakes the losers hand and goes "you fought well. I will respect you always".


This energy gives strength. So you'll naturally want to give it to someone else if you are in need of protection, and if you are liable to hurt yourself with your own strength, perhaps. But the one who has it also breeds: for that is nature's elegant mechanism for creating the best genes. The Matrix, however, attempts to subvert it -- just as it does with anything else it can get its hands on.

It's power or glory, but it's also responsibility, and it can also hurt you. The lack of it is sweet and can nourish you but it's also weak. So it is neither good nor bad in itself. How do you choose if you will consider it good or bad? Just follow your nature, there's no right or wrong answer. Tip: if you're male, chances are 10 to 1 that you'll want it.


Sexual energy is one of the two greatest forces in nature. The other is life energy.

Which can be translated to LOVE and HATE.

How do I figure? Well if you hate someone enough, then they'll commit suicide. Seriously, if they don't have enough support, if you make them feel bad enough...... they will. And even less than that, all good doctors nowadays know that the will to live is a huge factor in whether or not someone survives a disease. So words really are as good as physical weapons. You might be uncomfortable with this fact but GET USED TO IT. You are responsible for the very survival of yourself and others through the love which you do or do not embrace.

Now, you can love yourself while hating others, etc. For instance, if you insult someone and the other accepts the insult, then love goes from them to you. Then it is sum-zero. But it doesn't have to be; it can also be (and much more effectively) win-win.

Now if someone causes damage then you should hate them for it (temporarily at least) like you are made to do. But don't make the mistake of thiking you must fight for self-love. Love breeds love, and giving actually increases your own self-love.

So we have status and love - which equates to sex and life. Both can be increased or decreased in one or both people in a transaction.And they are different: dominating someone can be loving or hating, as the circumstances turn out.

Hate, yourself and/or others, when necessary - just as you might make a sacrifice in your own self for a certain cause. Love, yourself and/or others, as much as possible - for we are here to make more life, not to destroy it. And give or take sexual energy in yourself and/or others as your love or hate guide you.
 

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Gubby said:
To DOMINATE someone is to impose a polarity; you are HIGH pride and the other is LOW pride. You take and the other gives; it's sum-zero.

To SUBMIT is to do the opposite thing, give away pride.
ummm.... to submit is to yield to the strength and guidance/wisdom/power of another.

There is only a loss of pride in the process of submitting to someone if the man is unworthy of submitting to.

As a woman, there is actually a great sense of pride experienced when you are partnered with a man who is worthy of your submissiveness. His gift of his strength is treasured - but it does not require you to deny your own.

A man's true strength does not dishonor a woman, but rather frees up her energy to be able to focus more freely on being a/his woman.
 

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LovelyLady said:
A man's true strength does not dishonor a woman, but rather frees up her energy to be able to focus more freely on being a/his woman.
And a woman's love gives a man energy to be a man.

I think a woman and a man might understand different things by pride. It's a vague word in any case; but in this post I meant it to be that feeling of strength, territoriality maybe, rather than egotism or self-worth. Self-worth would be more like the "love" I described.

In sex the woman gives the man strength (or sexual energy) and the man gives her love (life energy). Or rather, they join as one, but the man's body becomes stronger and the woman's, more loving. The man's strength then goes to protect the woman and the woman's love to heal the man. It's a specialisation.

Am I wrong?
 

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LovelyLady said:
As a woman, there is actually a great sense of pride experienced when you are partnered with a man who is worthy of your submissiveness. His gift of his strength is treasured - but it does not require you to deny your own.

A man's true strength does not dishonor a woman, but rather frees up her energy to be able to focus more freely on being a/his woman.
Great point. A man does want to be dominant, but it means so much more when the woman who is being submissive, actually has her own beliefs, opinions, and high character. You keep each other sharp.
 

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Having thought it over, I think you're right, Lovelylady.

Strength and love are both good so long as the person who has them does good with them; and just because the sexes have a polarity or specialisation doesn't mean that strength or love is ever bad in either one. The more strength and more love, the better.

Thank you; that was something I needed to realise.

It seems obvious put in such words, but that's how it goes I guess. Learning's the process of realising successive truisms :D
 
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