Do you see the female market getting better?

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Now I've been thinking recently about the current quality of women in the market. This is one of the few things where I believe age may play a factor in determining one's knowledge over this so I will especially look for the opinions of older posters, though all opinions are welcome.

Here is why I am making this post: so for the past few days, I've been thinking of who would be my perfect woman, my 'dream girl', if you will. And I started picturing her in my mind, and I was lovestruck. Then I tried thinking about where I can find a woman like this, and I have realized that none exist. Heartbreak ensued.
It is undebateable that the current state of the female market is absolute trash for finding women worthy of a long term relationship. Women just plain old suck nowadays (no offense to the women on here, you lot seem to try and make it easier for men :up:). And I began thinking, when is it going to get better, if ever? I myself think that it is getting slightly better and will either go on to get a lot better or get a hell of a lot worse, though I don't have much elapsed time to compare to because I'm still young.

I believe that older posters may have noticed a pattern with the market which is why I am looking for their opinions especially. Is it getting better or worse? Or stagnant? Will it happen rapidly or slowly? When will the difference be noticeable?

And how is the market going in terms of looks as well? Are women getting hotter or uglier or remaining the same?
 

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Now I've been thinking recently about the current quality of women in the market. This is one of the few things where I believe age may play a factor in determining one's knowledge over this so I will especially look for the opinions of older posters, though all opinions are welcome.

Here is why I am making this post: so for the past few days, I've been thinking of who would be my perfect woman, my 'dream girl', if you will. And I started picturing her in my mind, and I was lovestruck. Then I tried thinking about where I can find a woman like this, and I have realized that none exist. Heartbreak ensued.
It is undebateable that the current state of the female market is absolute trash for finding women worthy of a long term relationship. Women just plain old suck nowadays (no offense to the women on here, you lot seem to try and make it easier for men :up:). And I began thinking, when is it going to get better, if ever? I myself think that it is getting slightly better and will either go on to get a lot better or get a hell of a lot worse, though I don't have much elapsed time to compare to because I'm still young.

I believe that older posters may have noticed a pattern with the market which is why I am looking for their opinions especially. Is it getting better or worse? Or stagnant? Will it happen rapidly or slowly? When will the difference be noticeable?

And how is the market going in terms of looks as well? Are women getting hotter or uglier or remaining the same?
Looks may be improveing due to advances in makeup technology. However modern women are offering increasingly less to a man as a partner. They are much more self serving than ever before.
 

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It will get better as you get better.

Looks may be improveing due to advances in makeup technology. However modern women are offering increasingly less to a man as a partner. They are much more self serving than ever before.
Roles in dating seems to be changing more and more (and it confuses women and men alike). Hence, the importance of communication, compromise, team work... but also the importance of keeping your frame solid

In my market sample... are the girls are gorgeous, educated, have some sorts of value... but ain't easy to approach or date :p
 

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If you want to know if the market is getting better just look at the economy. If the economy is good, women will look to date the best available in terms of looks, status and wealth. When the economy is bad, women will look to grab the first decent man that happens along.
The latter is the story across Europe right now. I'm surprised this hasn't been the case in America.
 

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The older you get the worse women get. I'm 53. The women that I date are 35 plus. They are single mothers or women with grown children. The have a lot of experience, meaning they have ridden loads of ****. They have baggage. Most of them want to lock down a provider. That isn't me.

I just carry on for as long as it will last and move on. It's all I can do. There are no unicorns. They basically all suck. They are only good for sex and entertainment.
 

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We ve very much followed the American dream/nightmare in Australia. Everyone wants a big SUV, to be a boss, own a McMansion etc. We re also media obsessed and have turned everyone into a brand with social media. Does that sound like it would produce humble, caring human beings?

You re basically looking for anomalies - Women who r feminine but can also think for themselves. And I suspect the trade off is looks. Look amongst the HB7s and u should have more luck.
 

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IMO the gems are out there. But of course that is my opinion :)
 

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Yeah that would be it... I tell people these are little HITLERS in a female body. A little guy with a napoleon complex!
If you talk to one you will hear it in their voic
They are rare but they do exist.
Better option is to find a grounded and stable and fair "7". Maybe a little time in the gym and updated clothing will raise her physical presense.

There are good and loyal woman out there, but if your looking for "hot girls" they will be invisible to you.
 

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They are rare but they do exist.
Yeah, like my mother. She ditched my dad while I was in college. Granted he was refusing to Work (the MINUTE my mom made more money than he did, she started thoughts to leave him even though he had been injured), and embarrassed her in front of friends at social events and stuff -- he'd just go out the to car drunk, sit in the air conditioner, and say, "I think I'll drive home..." and did, making everybody look for him and finally realizing he'd left lol. He didn't like high society or "elitists." My mother Did. My dad just passed 3 weeks ago. I'm still grieving, Hard. It's probably the worst sadness I've EVER felt. He was a MARINE, a blue collar worker, a white collar worker, a brawler early on and into even his 60s he'd get into fights. He was Very good-looking all his life (Nick Nolte-spittin image, different voice), free spirit. Always stated (to me and probably others) that he shouldn't have been born into this time (he would have preferred Civil War times, you know, horseback and sidearms...free livin, not as many rules and laws and sh!tty people). Very stubborn person, fired his doctors who he "didn't like."

He wanted "Quality of life over quantity of life..." Makes a lot of sense, and I love him for letting me hear him say that - some of his last words I heard from him.

Right now, us guys, are not having "Quality of life" so much. The environment is prickly for anything but. We are encased in thorns (too much BULLSH!T). So we go on living in this "Quantity of life" slavery day in and day out.

Back to my mother, though, she was/is beautiful and "sweet" (everyone throughout my life has said that) but ALL women have the propensity to leave a man she said her "vows" to, even if said man (my dad) eloped with her with a gun on his side (expediting the marriage) on a whim, with no audience. He also once went into a hospital with guns and dragged her out of there. You could do that back then :)
 
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It's the men that suck and need to up their game.

Women get away with what men let them.
So women will get away with what men let them. I understand how that is, I was trying to understand if there are women who set boundaries for themselves, women who won't let themselves get away with what men may allow them to.
 

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Gladly, due to anti-feminist public speakers and politicians speaking against feminism and debunking it as a farce, I think the market will slowly improve from here.

Milo yiannopolis is a good example. Women are identifying less as feminists thanks to people like him exposing it. It's a biased, logically flawed, man-hating ideology that has poisoned women's minds over the years. As soon as it is eradicated completely, women will become more suitable partners.
 

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I don't think anyone can answer that definitively.

The ideal behaviour that a man expects in his unicorn is based on a male frame.

But, I would also argue that it's irrelevant. A man's boundaries are imperative.
Jesus, that's pretty outrageous to think about. A woman's morals and virtues are based solely upon her man's and society's. If no one is looking though....

That's quite something. I'm not shocked by it but thinking about it is pretty unencouraging and demoralizing for finding any suitable future prospects because I still do want to have kids someday.
 

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It gets better if you leave the U.S. For New Year's I made out with two girls (not from America).

We Americans are extremely bitter because of the way the girls have become. But the international girls, they aren't as spoiled.
 

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When you hear guys complaining about how the marketplace is, they are often wanting to go back in time to the way things were. Back when providers were more respected.

Basically when a male frame was predominant.

The problem with that is civilization was built by beta-males, for beta-males.

Those men want to go back to a time where women were more easily forced to exist within their weak provider frame. They are the socialists of this sexual marketplace. They are pampered trade unionists being forced to cut it in the private sector. They want to play this game on easy-mode.

The last thing I would want is to go back to the bloody 1950's or whatever.
Wasn't it easier to be a man back then though? Less rules and restrictions, some stuff that was societally acceptable then when it isn't now. Men nowadays do seem more wimpy than the older generations.
It gets better if you leave the U.S. For New Year's I made out with two girls (not from America).

We Americans are extremely bitter because of the way the girls have become. But the international girls, they aren't as spoiled.
I wish I could travel out of the country but I cannot right now, I'm too young.
 
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