Disgusted!

[bukowski_merit]

I don't normally posts my "problems" here on the board, but i need a moment to speak on this...

I have a small rotation of 2-3 FWB/FBs (it used to be a bigger rotation but i don't have the patients for all that anymore). My basic rule with them is: "I don't care what you do when im not around as long as you respect me when i am." That's it...

Except for one girl. I'll call her Kristen. We've been at it with each other for 3 years now. She has an on again, off again relationship with a VERY wealthy AFC guy. She normally comes back around when they're off again. With this girl - i have an additional rule: "I don't care what you do when im not around as long as you respect me when you're around me. AND if you have sex with anyone else - you wear protection." - - - Of course this extra rule is in effect because we have unprotected sex!

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Haven't heard from Kristen in a month or so.

She texts me last night:

Her: Can i come see you tonight?
Me: Sure, come over after my workout at 7.
Her: Ok.

About 7...
Her: I have to warn you. I can't have sex with you.

I IGNORE this message, as i always do when a woman says such a thing. In the modern day of texting - women LOVE to say stuff like this to make it appear to themselves and you like they are trying to be "good".

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She gets here. We talk a good bit. I down about 9 shots of vodka, she downs about 6.

Kissing follows...

Kissing leads to mattress...

Mattress leads to clothes coming off....

It's a relatively fast fvck... About 5 minutes!! (hadn't had sex in a week, was drunk, and she was on her period which makes he not be able to take it that long before she gets weak, so i always make it fast.)

We're laying in bed after, trying to figure out if we have enough time for a round 2.... Also having a discussion about how alcohol makes you think people are better looking than they are....


Her: Yeah, all my mistakes with men have happened when i was drunk. I think they're hot when we're out and then i wake up the next morning - and see how horrible looking they are (probably a bit of projecting here).

Me: All your mistakes? That's cute lil miss single digits (i always tease her because she claims to have been with single digits, and that's hilarious to me!)

Her: I'm serious. Like i want to tell you something but you're going to get mad.

Me: Me? I'm going to get mad? How about i bite your neck? (i bite her neck hard; and we play around with that for a few minutes.)

Her: (suddenly) I had sex with Brad 3 weeks ago. It was horrible! (some AFC orbitor guy who is always buying her things, driving her places, and taking her to clubs and "protecting" her from other guys hitting on her.)

Me: (playfully) oh my god! you dirty wh@re! im done with you! (with a big "i really don't care, why are you telling me this?" grin on my face).

Her: But....

Me: But what?

Her: Neither of us know if we used protection or not. We were both too drunk to remember much of it. I only remember flashes... I don't think we did.

Me: And you tell me this AFTER we have raw sex?

Her: I don't think he's been with many girls.

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The conversation didn't go much longer than that. I pretty much tell her to leave and that we aren't doing a round 2.

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I am ENRAGED inside men! If she had told me before we had sex - i would have just used a condom; no love lost! But to tell me after; and put me at risk - just boils my blood!

There's not many things that do make me mad (i have 0 jealousy issues); which is why i treated her saying i'd get mad as a joke - but ultimately - she is right!

Being with her is not an option now!

That is all.

 

[samspade]

Always use protection. You don't really have any right to be upset about this, your "rules" notwithstanding.

 

[squirrels]

Always use protection. You don't really have any right to be upset about this, your "rules" notwithstanding.

Agree. If she is f**king other dudes, you should wear a condom.

You brought this on yourself by barebacking a known slvt.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Always use protection. You don't really have any right to be upset about this, your "rules" notwithstanding.

Yeah, i know. I do enjoy raw sex though. And have had someone over the last 6 years to always have it with (4 years with my LTR, 2 years with this girl). I can live without it; but i like finding girls i feel i can trust to have it with. This is making me think twice about doing it again.

Certainly am not blaming it all on her. I am including myself in this for sure! Her telling me after the sex is really the only reason i have an issue with her. If she told me before the sex and i still went raw in her - that would be ALL me...

But i always tell guys not to expect honor from women. Maybe i should have paid more attention to that on my own front.

 

[samspade]

It's like saying, "If the driver had told me the brakes were shot, I would have put on a seat belt."

Just assume she's banging other guys raw dog, and wear a rubber.

 

[Boilermaker]

It's like saying, "If the driver had told me the brakes were shot, I would have put on a seat belt."

Just assume she's banging other guys raw dog, and wear a rubber.

Haha, love the metaphor, and I totally agree with you !

 

[zekko]

I hate wearing a condom, another reason I've gone the LTR route.

 

[TheBucketOfTruth]

Even in a committed relationship not wearing it can be sketchy, but when you're messing around with multiple women forget it. You need to take that stuff into your own hands. Most people can't be trusted, and even if someone isn't banging anyone but you, then they still may have diseases from before you. Also note that she was on again off again dating another guy while you were seeing her. Do they always use a condom? I hope so for your sake. Since the guy is a rich AFC hopefully his father has taught him better so that he doesn't have baby mamas all over the place looking for handouts.

 

[Zarky]

ermm.. she tried to tell you with her text saying, "We can't have sex." You should have followed up on that one rather than letting it pass.

But really, who cares? so she banged a guy once and may not have used 'protection.' It's not like she's shooting up heroin in a dumpster behind Church's Chicken off Crenshaw Boulevard. I think you'll be ok.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I hate wearing a condom, another reason I've gone the LTR route.

I hate them as well. I also feel like it takes away from the bonding that comes from sex... flesh on flesh just feels more real.... but so do HIV on blood cells!

Even in a committed relationship not wearing it can be sketchy, but when you're messing around with multiple women forget it. You need to take that stuff into your own hands. Most people can't be trusted, and even if someone isn't banging anyone but you, then they still may have diseases from before you. Also note that she was on again off again dating another guy while you were seeing her. Do they always use a condom? I hope so for your sake. Since the guy is a rich AFC hopefully his father has taught him better so that he doesn't have baby mamas all over the place looking for handouts.

Funny you ask that - he doesn't trust her, so he wears a condom. BUT it's not that he doesn't trust her as far as her fvcking other guys. He doesn't trust her to not get pregnant by him on purpose so that she can be set for life!!!!

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But anyway: I've calmed down a bit since last night. I've meant the guy she had sex with before, and he's definitely not the type who gets a lot of @ss. I know that doesn't mean he couldn't be carrying 5 STDS, but the odds are a lot less than if she had fvcked a local neighborhood player man.

 

[bukowski_merit]

ermm.. she tried to tell you with her text saying, "We can't have sex." You should have followed up on that one rather than letting it pass.

Women often think im just using them for sex (because i don't commit). So, i get these types of comments A LOT.

From this girl alone - i've heard it at least 30 times over the last 2 years. Example:

"I'm coming over, but just to watch a movie and drink with you; not to have sex. ok?"

Of course, i never respond to those, because i know it's BS. If i respond to comments like that - then we get into "discussing and negotiating" territory... Not a great place to be pre-seduction.

But really, who cares? so she banged a guy once and may not have used 'protection.' It's not like she's shooting up heroin in a dumpster behind Church's Chicken off Crenshaw Boulevard. I think you'll be ok.

I don't have any plans on seeing this woman anymore (because of when she told me about it); but i definitely feel better about not having a STD from this now.

 

[Colossus]

I dont blame you for being pissed. Should you have worn a condom with a girl who is sleeping with other dudes?? Yes. You cant trust her to be the responsible one.

I also know it's easy to sit here and tell a guy to practice safe sex, but when youre 10 drinks deep and her panties are off it's another story...

Just let this one be a lesson. Good call on dropping her.

 

[Bluntmaster]

I don't normally posts my "problems" here on the board, but i need a moment to speak on this...

I have a small rotation of 2-3 FWB/FBs (it used to be a bigger rotation but i don't have the patients for all that anymore). My basic rule with them is: "I don't care what you do when im not around as long as you respect me when i am." That's it...

Except for one girl. I'll call her Kristen. We've been at it with each other for 3 years now. She has an on again, off again relationship with a VERY wealthy AFC guy. She normally comes back around when they're off again. With this girl - i have an additional rule: "I don't care what you do when im not around as long as you respect me when you're around me. AND if you have sex with anyone else - you wear protection." - - - Of course this extra rule is in effect because we have unprotected sex!

---

Haven't heard from Kristen in a month or so.

She texts me last night:

Her: Can i come see you tonight?
Me: Sure, come over after my workout at 7.
Her: Ok.

About 7...
Her: I have to warn you. I can't have sex with you.

I IGNORE this message, as i always do when a woman says such a thing. In the modern day of texting - women LOVE to say stuff like this to make it appear to themselves and you like they are trying to be "good".

---

She gets here. We talk a good bit. I down about 9 shots of vodka, she downs about 6.

Kissing follows...

Kissing leads to mattress...

Mattress leads to clothes coming off....

It's a relatively fast fvck... About 5 minutes!! (hadn't had sex in a week, was drunk, and she was on her period which makes he not be able to take it that long before she gets weak, so i always make it fast.)

We're laying in bed after, trying to figure out if we have enough time for a round 2.... Also having a discussion about how alcohol makes you think people are better looking than they are....


Her: Yeah, all my mistakes with men have happened when i was drunk. I think they're hot when we're out and then i wake up the next morning - and see how horrible looking they are (probably a bit of projecting here).

Me: All your mistakes? That's cute lil miss single digits (i always tease her because she claims to have been with single digits, and that's hilarious to me!)

Her: I'm serious. Like i want to tell you something but you're going to get mad.

Me: Me? I'm going to get mad? How about i bite your neck? (i bite her neck hard; and we play around with that for a few minutes.)

Her: (suddenly) I had sex with Brad 3 weeks ago. It was horrible! (some AFC orbitor guy who is always buying her things, driving her places, and taking her to clubs and "protecting" her from other guys hitting on her.)

Me: (playfully) oh my god! you dirty wh@re! im done with you! (with a big "i really don't care, why are you telling me this?" grin on my face).

Her: But....

Me: But what?

Her: Neither of us know if we used protection or not. We were both too drunk to remember much of it. I only remember flashes... I don't think we did.

Me: And you tell me this AFTER we have raw sex?

Her: I don't think he's been with many girls.

---

The conversation didn't go much longer than that. I pretty much tell her to leave and that we aren't doing a round 2.

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I am ENRAGED inside men! If she had told me before we had sex - i would have just used a condom; no love lost! But to tell me after; and put me at risk - just boils my blood!

There's not many things that do make me mad (i have 0 jealousy issues); which is why i treated her saying i'd get mad as a joke - but ultimately - she is right!

Being with her is not an option now!

That is all.

Why would you EVER trust a woman like this, for something this important? OFCOURSE she will lie. Did you expect the truth from her?

LOL at believing a chic about using condoms. She probably took it up the rear end and the front end multiple times raw, not just with this guy. The neighborhood player was up in it raw too and the football team.

I can't believe you even posted this to tell you the truth. If she lets you tap it raw she is letting others do it.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Why would you EVER trust a woman like this, for something this important? OFCOURSE she will lie. Did you expect the truth from her?

Ok, i don't go too much into my personal life here; but... im a fvcking pervert. A few years back, i read a lot of Johnny Soporno's stuff, and watched his videos and such, and that appealed to me. Setting a woman's sexual boundaries free by not judging their sexual fantasies and actions. Encouraging her to tell you about her promiscuous ways, and allowing whatever jealousy you feel to turn you on.

Women LOVE sharing sexual secrets with someone who doesn't judge them. This woman has shared with me MANY sexual fantasies she has, as well as pretty much every experience she's had (which is why i find it hilarious that she tries to stick to the single digit thing; because if i add up all her stories - they far excede single digits!)

So yes, perhaps naively - i trusted that if she did have unprotected sex - she would tell me. As she has told me every sexual experience she has had since we've been together. And i very much enjoy hearing about it.

Knowing this - there is no reason for me to believe a woman is going to lie to me about something in this realm. Especially since she's been so honest without getting any punishment for it (if she'd ever been honest and received punishment for it - then that would give her a clear reason to be dishonest).

But i do know better. Two thing i've probalbly said many times on here are:

1) Honor is man-made. Women know nothing of it.
2) If you tell a woman she can fvck the whole basketball team, but cannot wear those red socks. You can be sure she will not fvck the whole basketball team, but will wear red socks.

Both of those things apply here. To me....

LOL at believing a chic about using condoms. She probably took it up the rear end and the front end multiple times raw, not just with this guy. The neighborhood player was up in it raw too and the football team.

Hopefully they got that on video....

 

[Bluntmaster]

Ok, i don't go too much into my personal life here; but... im a fvcking pervert. A few years back, i read a lot of Johnny Soporno's stuff, and watched his videos and such, and that appealed to me. Setting a woman's sexual boundaries free by not judging their sexual fantasies and actions. Encouraging her to tell you about her promiscuous ways, and allowing whatever jealousy you feel to turn you on.

Women LOVE sharing sexual secrets with someone who doesn't judge them. This woman has shared with me MANY sexual fantasies she has, as well as pretty much every experience she's had (which is why i find it hilarious that she tries to stick to the single digit thing; because if i add up all her stories - they far excede single digits!)

So yes, perhaps naively - i trusted that if she did have unprotected sex - she would tell me. As she has told me every sexual experience she has had since we've been together. And i very much enjoy hearing about it.

Knowing this - there is no reason for me to believe a woman is going to lie to me about something in this realm. Especially since she's been so honest without getting any punishment for it (if she'd ever been honest and received punishment for it - then that would give her a clear reason to be dishonest).

But i do know better. Two thing i've probalbly said many times on here are:

1) Honor is man-made. Women know nothing of it.
2) If you tell a woman she can fvck the whole basketball team, but cannot wear those red socks. You can be sure she will not fvck the whole basketball team, but will wear red socks.

Both of those things apply here. To me....






Hopefully they got that on video....

A year ago I was dating a chic who I was banging raw too. She SWORE she wasn't banging anyone else. I got suspicious, and hacked the b!tches email. There were at least 3 other guys, and probably more, and raw I'm sure.

It wasn't just you and the other guy. I got tested recently and luckily I panned out.

 

[bukowski_merit]

A year ago I was dating a chic who I was banging raw too. She SWORE she wasn't banging anyone else. I got suspicious, and hacked the b!tches email. There were at least 3 other guys, and probably more, and raw I'm sure.

So do you endorse never going raw? No matter what stage of the relationship you are in?

I got tested recently and luckily I panned out.

I haven't gotten one in about 2 years. But think i'll go get one next week (although i think it takes a few months for some of the bigger diseases to show up in your blood stream.)

 

[bukowski_merit]

I dont blame you for being pissed. Should you have worn a condom with a girl who is sleeping with other dudes?? Yes. You cant trust her to be the responsible one.

I also know it's easy to sit here and tell a guy to practice safe sex, but when youre 10 drinks deep and her panties are off it's another story...

Just let this one be a lesson. Good call on dropping her.

Very true on everything.

Does DE mean Delaware? I'm in Newark; about to go to Kildares in a few (and be the oldest guy in there not sporting a guitar around his neck lol).

 

[Bluntmaster]

So do you endorse never going raw? No matter what stage of the relationship you are in?





I haven't gotten one in about 2 years. But think i'll go get one next week (although i think it takes a few months for some of the bigger diseases to show up in your blood stream.)

Well I hate the condoms too. I'm with a new girl but haven't gone raw yet but I want to. She is the one scared to do it, I'm trying to get her on the pill. I don't have f'buddies or things like that. Was never really into it. Usually 1 chic at a time for me and if I find out she is spinning plates, I will dump her.

 

[f283000]

This must be the dumbest thread ever. Why did you even post this?

You already said she is like an fb to you and she's in a relationship with some wealthy afc guy, and then you kick her out because she had sex with you after confessing that she forgot if she used a condom with her last guy.

Shes already doing this afc guy so that's 1 reason to use a condom. Actually she's not even your ltr so that's 2 reasons. You already knew all this so why are you even upset? What's the purpose of this?

Give me the last 2 minutes of my life back.

 

[bukowski_merit]

This must be the dumbest thread ever. Why did you even post this?

Sorry.... Didn't mean to offend you mister great and powerful king who makes no errors... Lets all bow to f283000 and his arrogance!

You already said she is like an fb to you and she's in a relationship with some wealthy afc guy, and then you kick her out because she had sex with you after confessing that she forgot if she used a condom with her last guy.

She comes and visits me when she's NOT in the relationship with him (most of the time anyway).

I think you misunderstood, but i can't tell because of your poor sentence structure. She had sex with me BEFORE disclosing that she had unprotected sex with another guy, not after. Quite a difference.

So you don't think there's something to be learned here? Even if it's as simple as "don't make a fvck up like this!" These's actually some decent discussion going on here about when it's ok to go raw... perhaps you can join in instead o being bitter about whatever it is.

Shes already doing this afc guy so that's 1 reason to use a condom. Actually she's not even your ltr so that's 2 reasons.

Reason #1 (her having sex with her boyfriend) doesn't really apply because he REFUSES to have sex with her without a condom because he does not want to get her pregnant (because he's been taught that when wealthy; women will try to get knocked up by you).

Reason #2 is accurate, and my mistake. But even if she was, that doesn't stop women from doing the same every night throughout the world.

You already knew all this so why are you even upset? What's the purpose of this?

I already knew all what? I knew she was having sex with other guys (particularly her boyfriend), but did not know she had unprotected sex (or "may" have.) If she did - i did believe she would tell me; and she did; but it's the timing... Again: im not putting all the blame on her; a lot of it is my fault. But she still made sure i had unprotected sex with her first before she told me!

Have i ever said anything bad to you before? I'm trying to figure out why you're being so hostile when everyone else has the decency to relate but still say i was dumb....

Give me the last 2 minutes of my life back.

You having a bad day or something?

I see your high horse, mr. perfect...

Now watch me ride mine... I think it's better looking than yours really; yours is looking like it needs some water. Might be dehydrated, old and cranky. Looks kind of limp really. It's ok man... But riding a limp horse is about the same as beating a dead one.

:woo: