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Demonstrations of Higher Value

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I have been studying the Mystery Method for a little while, constructing routines and so on. I have reached the point where I am compiling demonstrations of higher value, such as The Cube.
If anybody has any routines for DHV's such as palm-reading, handwriting analysis, or anything like that, please post them here.

If you know of anywebsites or free resources, where I can find DHV's please copy and paste either the routines or the links here, please.
 

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in order to demonstrate higher value , i still think that
there must be some kind of value in yourself to begin with..
you can 'pretend' to have higher value then a girl and she
may buy into it- but if you display higher value then go home to
play D & D or Halo for 18 hrs. straight buzzed off six Rockstars,
only to complete the night whacking off to some barlely legal
porn, then maybe you should rethink the approach about higher
value.

the best i have heard about displaying higer value is
getting her to qualify herself to you as much as possible
and communicating from early on that you are the prize and the
selecter...NOT HER:cheer:
 

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Sorry, but I have to disagree that entertaining a girl with routines that every other wannabe PUA is running is DHV

If you truly want to DHV, spend your time and efforts becoming the type of person that people, including women, will naturally gravitate towards instead of learning a bunch of superficial gimmicks that don't contribute a bit to improving yourself as a Man.

There are no shortcuts to becoming a DJ
 

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I'm I the only one (yeah I'm a noob, and RAFC, but don't jump on me) that doesn't like the idea of demonstrating Higher Value?

If you think you are better than one particular girl, or person for that matter, what stops you from thinking some other person is better than you?

I would like to get to the point where I look everybody 'straight on'. I don't want to look UP to anybody and put them on a pedestal, or look down on anybody.

I get the idea behind DHV, that you shouldn't be subserviant to her and basically treating her like she is the queen of the world. Or like you are BLESSED and LUCKY just to be in her presence. Why cant a girl and a guy be equal?

(just my little rant, correct me if I'm wrong, I want to learn.):D
 

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because attraction isn't based on equals.
it's the same reason your heart races and you get excited
when you see a hot girl and you 'precieve' her as being of
higher value.
and the same reason you feel 'comfortable' with a girl you see
as an equal, but alot less attraction than you would if
she was hot and somehow seen as a prize of sorts.

higher value as in you are the prize NOT her in the situation,
where as in most-the girls are seen as the prize and someone to
be 'won' over//but thats just my opinion
 

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Listen guys, I hear what you are saying but the Mystery Method is a system, and when you use or attempt to master a system you do so according to its own constructs. So unless you actually have material to contribute, keep such criticisms to yourself.
 

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Originally posted by Derek Flint
Sorry, but I have to disagree that entertaining a girl with routines that every other wannabe PUA is running is DHV

If you truly want to DHV, spend your time and efforts becoming the type of person that people, including women, will naturally gravitate towards instead of learning a bunch of superficial gimmicks that don't contribute a bit to improving yourself as a Man.

There are no shortcuts to becoming a DJ
Christ.... AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well said Flint............

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Sorry, but I have to disagree that entertaining a girl with routines that every other wannabe PUA is running is DHV
That's not what I asked, preacher, keep your sermon to yourself.
Any cold reads welcome. All who hold canned routines in contempt, your ideologies are of no interest to me; do not post here.
 

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Originally posted by Marlimus
I have been studying the Mystery Method for a little while, constructing routines and so on. I have reached the point where I am compiling demonstrations of higher value, such as The Cube.
If anybody has any routines for DHV's such as palm-reading, handwriting analysis, or anything like that, please post them here.

If you know of anywebsites or free resources, where I can find DHV's please copy and paste either the routines or the links here, please.
Hi marlimus...


Well, for what your saying..you have to come up with a routine that displays:

non-needyness
pre-selection from other chicks
leader of men
one who looks after his peers
social status
humor/funny

or other stuff portraying value. Bah i cant think of much more right now cos im in a rush.

Basically you have to construct your stories that subtlely portray these points which in turn will flip her attraction switches. Dont forget to add a few negs to target.

www.bristollair.com hs some great material.
 

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DHV isn't a "routine." I can't begin to tell you how far down the wrong path you're going to walk...

DHV comes from:
- having other girls pay attention to you
- being good at something (singing, dancing, music, ...)
- displaying leadership qualities

Social proof is the game of all games if you can play it, but a routine will never get you there.
 

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if you display higher value then go home to
play D & D or Halo for 18 hrs. straight buzzed off six Rockstars,
only to complete the night whacking off to some barlely legal
porn, then maybe you should rethink the approach about higher
value.
LOL, damn I needed that. Thank you:D
 

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Originally posted by Marlimus
That's not what I asked, preacher, keep your sermon to yourself.
Any cold reads welcome. All who hold canned routines in contempt, your ideologies are of no interest to me; do not post here.
Nope - If you're going to post here, be prepared to take the good with the bad, and that includes criticism.

You may not realize it, but those that are critical here are actually trying to help you.

If you can't deal with the criticism here, then you sure don't have a thick enough skin for the rejection you'll be dealing with out in the field.

What are you gonna say to a chick when she says "You're the 4th guy tonight trying to run that 'cube' routine on me"
 

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Use stories that show women are attracted to you. For example, say that your ex girlfriend who use to be a stripper but now is going to school to be a nurse wanted to pick you up and take you out to dinner and then insert a funny story or the reason you are telling the story without seeming like you are showing off.

Show or say anything that creates the frame in a womens mind that you are desireable to other women.

Another good one I use is telling them that beauty is common, and have them list 3 things that sets them apart and it cannot be anything physical and then just nod your head showing approval, but not being to excited.

If you frame yourself as being "the prize" that in itself will create DHV.

If you are going out and picking up you are better than the 95% of men out there, so I dont care what others say here, if you are using canned techniques to gain experience use them. But sooner or later you will learn why the canned tech works and will create your own.

Good LUCK
 

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Again, the problem with canned stuff is that it is all superficial and does nothing for your innner-game.

Strip away the "flash" of all the gimmicks of routines, and what's left?

Too many guys out there are routine dependent, and are spending time learning more routines instead of working on becoming the type of person that women are attracted to.

That's what being a "DJ" is all about - not becoming a (insert name of PU guru here) clone/wannabe.

Anyone can recite routines, but not everyone can become the type of person that women will naturally be drawn to.

One requires more work than the other.

And these 'seduction guru's' are getting rich off of guys who are trying to find the "magic bullet" or the easy way, which will end up becoming the most expensive and the most time-consuming.
 

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Originally posted by Derek Flint
Again, the problem with canned stuff is that it is all superficial and does nothing for your innner-game.

Strip away the "flash" of all the gimmicks of routines, and what's left?

Too many guys out there are routine dependent, and are spending time learning more routines instead of working on becoming the type of person that women are attracted to.

That's what being a "DJ" is all about - not becoming a (insert name of PU guru here) clone/wannabe.

Anyone can recite routines, but not everyone can become the type of person that women will naturally be drawn to.

One requires more work than the other.

And these 'seduction guru's' are getting rich off of guys who are trying to find the "magic bullet" or the easy way, which will end up becoming the most expensive and the most time-consuming.

For me, I use the canned stuff to get in the door and from there I let my personality show. I think the hardest part for most people is that thye do not know what to say initially. Well, thats where the canned stuff is good. At least for me I have done a lot with my life, and I lacked the initial convo skills to go up to women, and now since I know some canned material I go in with a lot of confidence.
 

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Originally posted by psychgrad
For me, I use the canned stuff to get in the door and from there I let my personality show. I think the hardest part for most people is that thye do not know what to say initially. Well, thats where the canned stuff is good. At least for me I have done a lot with my life, and I lacked the initial convo skills to go up to women, and now since I know some canned material I go in with a lot of confidence.
Thanks for making my point for me - the canned stuff is basically "training wheels"

But too many aspiring DJ's become dependent on those training wheels and it halts their progression.

Throw away the crutches of the canned stuff and learn how to "walk" without them.

What would you do if canned routines weren't an option?

You'd improvise and learn how to talk to chicks and how to create rapport without them, that's what.

And it would hopefully force you into developing yourself into becoming the type of person that people, including women, gravitate towards.

If and when that happens, then not knowing what to say or do is no longer an issue.

No one does themselves any favors by using someone else's material to pick up chicks.

It's like cheating on a test - you pass the test, but did you learn anything, or become any smarter?

No, not really.

You become much more smarter by actually studying and learning the material than by using someone else's answers.
 
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