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These are notes from about 12 hours of going from bar to bar yesterday drinking beer after beer... I know this is probably too long for anyone to want to read, but that's to be expected from 12 hours worth of notes.

It was said a little while ago that value can be subjective, so in that case, I am free to place my own subjective value on people.

Any 2 people are psychos after knowing each other for a week. The psycho in the person always comes out.

Not all girls are prostitutes that will have sex for money. Lol. Like the girls working at the bars. Perhaps they may be impressed with a successful guy, but they probably won't fvck you for a few hundred bucks. I think I should start going out more so I get used to it. I used to out a lot in the past few years, but lost interest lately.

Even saying 3 words to someone is better than sitting in complete silence. 1000x better.

With me, the pleasantries of socialization break down in a matter of minutes. It kind of stops me from talking, because if you're too honest, then you are not being polite or politically correct. Like that girl sitting 5 feet away from me with the huge crooked nose who is painted up like she's Cindy Crawford. What am I supposed to do? Tell her that? Or should I just say nothing to her?

I should of course keep trying to make money in my business, but I shouldn't wait to be mega-rich before I try to get some. Maybe they would like a d1ck even better than a rich guy. Maybe a fvck buddy.

Maybe if I started talking more, I would be seen as more socially normal. But I really don't know what to talk about. Seems that people just talk about mundane stuff all day. My face is known in a lot of places down town, but I don't exactly "know" people... like I don't have them on FaceBook or anything. My reputation is kind of ruined from when I was arrested, so I would hate if word got out about that, then I would be seen as an outcast anywhere I went. Best to just keep quiet about it, which of course means I can't truly get to know people if I'm hiding my past, but it is what it is.

At one point, I was feeling old. But that lawyer I posted about was 47 when he was dating that porn star and Neil Strauss was 32 when he started. I'm 30.

What if I had a mansion? Would that help?

Why can't I just be nice? Maybe that would work? But with how negative the world is... people getting blown up, etc... are you gonna put the blame on ME for being negative, like I started it?

Sex isn't worth the investment to me of having a monogamous "girlfriend." It is cheaper, in a lot of ways, to get a hooker. To me, sex with a hooker and a non-hooker is the same.

Other people talk about PEOPLE all day long, it seems. I suppose I just don't find people all that interesting. I don't really desire to know "that guy" or "that girl over there."

I hate hip-hop because it's stupid and only stupid people like it, which seems to be everyone. Seems like every girl in there mouths the words to all the hip-hop songs that come on the speaker like it's important or something. I see that as a sign of stupidity and low value.

When I see girls talk to dogs, it makes me lose all hope in humanity. They would care if their dog died probably more than they cared if I died.

There were tons of guys with large muscles that didn't seem to be doing well. I really think it would be a waste of time for me to spend lots of time in the gym. I think a change in attitude would be more important if I were ever to have success.

I am deep, dark, and disturbed. Especially after having drank quite a few beers. It takes me several beers to even know what my emotions are, especially in such a chaotic place.

Society is fvcked up. There were female security guards as if they're gonna do anything.

After going out, I don't think height is that much of an issue. I saw guys that were not tall with girls. And, yes, I did see lots of tall guys with girls as well. But I think it would be a mistake to obsess about my 5'7.5" height. Nothing I can do about it. I don't think looks are the issue, either. I think it has much more to do with personality, although I could be wrong. I really don't know.

Heck, maybe THEY are the problem! Maybe it's their pretentiousness and thinking their sh1t doesn't stink. Overvaluing themselves and their pu$$y/sexuality to ridiculous extremes.

There is no point in pursuing something that I don't value. I see a bunch of 4's and 5's walking around painted up acting like they're supermodels. It's pretty ridiculous actually. Yet there is nothing in the world that can stop me from waking up thinking about sex every day. It's just biology. I can assign my own subjective value to people even if you call me delusional.

Plus, monogamy is unnatural and annoying anyway.

Can you imagine if you (a guy) were to walk around thinking that your BUTT gave you value? Ridiculous. Like, literally, where your sh1t comes from.

I had no fun really. I wasn't impressed by any of the customers or bartenders. I didn't think they were special or interesting. Although I'm sure they thought the world of themselves.

Most girls would not give me the kind of sex I would want, anyway, even if they were to have sex with me. And definitely not ON MY DEMAND. So what am I really after anyway?

There used to be a lawyer that went down town all the time. Different one than I talked about earlier. He was 36 and always around young girls. Everyone knew him as a rich guy. If I started making money flipping houses, maybe I could do the same? If I would have the desire to? But my reputation is ruined from the arrest when I was younger.

At one point, everyone looked like a bunch of little kids jumping up and down at the result of sports games on TV. Honestly, what's important here?

Even when 1-on-1, I'm not motivated to approach in any sexual way.

It takes me 12 beers to be even a little bit extroverted. Most people are 100x more extroverted even when sober.

I wish they (females) could show me something more than dancing around like an idiot to a bunch of stupid hip-hop songs. Yet I still am the one who has to "impress" them? And "work on myself" and all that nonsense? Ridiculous.

At one point, some girls came up to me and asked me if I'm okay because I'm quiet. I just said "yea." And they stood around me for a few seconds, but I didn't talk to them any more. All they have to do is show me the slightest bit of respect like this, and all the anger goes away. I actually had a slightly funner time after just being talked to for 1 second like that. It improved my mood by about 1000x.

There are "hot" girls everywhere. Or at least there are girls who can dress themselves up to look hot for a night. You can see 100's or even 1000's on any given weekend night down town. No shortage. I can't "connect" with a single one. I don't even know what "connect" means, really.

I am not really motivated to make "that girl" into "my girl."

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Then, today, I was bored and decided to go to a hooker. Something I haven't done in months. It's fun. No anger, no bu11Sh!t. Just sex. She was decent looking, but once you've been with enough people.... how "good" can someone look with their a$$ pointing at you. It's just an a$$ and a pu$$y. Not rocket science or anything special. And, of course, she asked why I had an implant at such a young age.

I am kind of motivated to call another one, but I don't want to spend that much money in one day. I wish I could have sex with non-hookers on demand like that. Like I could just call them up and ask if they want to fvck and they'll say "sure." I'm not sure if that will ever be reality for me, but I'm also not sure if that's reality for ANY GUY. It seems like it's asking a lot. Maybe 1 in a million guys can do that, or someone in a position of power like Genghis Khan or Fidel Castro.
 

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Even saying 3 words to someone is better than sitting in complete silence. 1000x better.

Yes, absolutely. Some conversation is better than none, and hopefully it will make your experience a bit more enjoyable.

With me, the pleasantries of socialization break down in a matter of minutes. It kind of stops me from talking, because if you're too honest, then you are not being polite or politically correct. Like that girl sitting 5 feet away from me with the huge crooked nose who is painted up like she's Cindy Crawford. What am I supposed to do? Tell her that? Or should I just say nothing to her?

If you really don't like her, you don't have to talk to her. There's got to be a few there that seem decent enough to talk to.

I should of course keep trying to make money in my business, but I shouldn't wait to be mega-rich before I try to get some. Maybe they would like a d1ck even better than a rich guy. Maybe a fvck buddy.

Correct.

Maybe if I started talking more, I would be seen as more socially normal. But I really don't know what to talk about. Seems that people just talk about mundane stuff all day.

As a guy that overthinks everything, I am finally fully realizing that people fluff talk about ANYTHING. It literally does not matter what you say, as long as it isn't offensive. It's about people connecting. The actual CONTENT of the conversation doesn't mean jack.

At one point, I was feeling old. But that lawyer I posted about was 47 when he was dating that porn star and Neil Strauss was 32 when he started. I'm 30.

30 is a great age.

What if I had a mansion? Would that help?

People you meet don't know about your house.

Why can't I just be nice? Maybe that would work? But with how negative the world is... people getting blown up, etc... are you gonna put the blame on ME for being negative, like I started it?

I try to have some healthy (and unhealthy) cynicism, but still try to be nice.

Sex isn't worth the investment to me of having a monogamous "girlfriend." It is cheaper, in a lot of ways, to get a hooker. To me, sex with a hooker and a non-hooker is the same.

I can understand that. I like a connection, so I can't do the hooker thing, but I get your point.

Other people talk about PEOPLE all day long, it seems. I suppose I just don't find people all that interesting. I don't really desire to know "that guy" or "that girl over there."

Fair enough.

I hate hip-hop because it's stupid and only stupid people like it, which seems to be everyone. Seems like every girl in there mouths the words to all the hip-hop songs that come on the speaker like it's important or something. I see that as a sign of stupidity and low value.

Try to find a bar where you like the music. Find one with a live band or a DJ that fits your taste better.

There were tons of guys with large muscles that didn't seem to be doing well. I really think it would be a waste of time for me to spend lots of time in the gym. I think a change in attitude would be more important if I were ever to have success.

A better attitude is always a plus.

After going out, I don't think height is that much of an issue. I saw guys that were not tall with girls. And, yes, I did see lots of tall guys with girls as well. But I think it would be a mistake to obsess about my 5'7.5" height. Nothing I can do about it. I don't think looks are the issue, either. I think it has much more to do with personality, although I could be wrong. I really don't know.

They don't really know your personality without having a chance to talk to you. A quiet guy could be a really cool person or a cold bastard or somewhere in between. But nobody will know for sure until they have a conversation with the guy.

Heck, maybe THEY are the problem! Maybe it's their pretentiousness and thinking their sh1t doesn't stink. Overvaluing themselves and their pu$$y/sexuality to ridiculous extremes.

The pretentiousness is a given today. It's out there. It's everywhere. There's nothing we can do about it. Just ignore it like it's background noise.

There is no point in pursuing something that I don't value. I see a bunch of 4's and 5's walking around painted up acting like they're supermodels. It's pretty ridiculous actually. Yet there is nothing in the world that can stop me from waking up thinking about sex every day. It's just biology. I can assign my own subjective value to people even if you call me delusional.

Plus, monogamy is unnatural and annoying anyway.

Can you imagine if you (a guy) were to walk around thinking that your BUTT gave you value? Ridiculous. Like, literally, where your sh1t comes from.

I had no fun really. I wasn't impressed by any of the customers or bartenders. I didn't think they were special or interesting. Although I'm sure they thought the world of themselves.

Some bartenders are cool, maybe one in eight, but you have to go when it's slower to get to know them.

Most girls would not give me the kind of sex I would want, anyway, even if they were to have sex with me. And definitely not ON MY DEMAND. So what am I really after anyway?

For bars, the focus is one night stands. That's not sex on demand per se. It's a fling. It might become FWB, but that's another story.

At one point, everyone looked like a bunch of little kids jumping up and down at the result of sports games on TV. Honestly, what's important here?

I'm not into sports either.

Even when 1-on-1, I'm not motivated to approach in any sexual way.

It takes me 12 beers to be even a little bit extroverted. Most people are 100x more extroverted even when sober.

Might need to try some harder stuff. I like rum and coke.

I wish they (females) could show me something more than dancing around like an idiot to a bunch of stupid hip-hop songs. Yet I still am the one who has to "impress" them? And "work on myself" and all that nonsense? Ridiculous.

At one point, some girls came up to me and asked me if I'm okay because I'm quiet. I just said "yea." And they stood around me for a few seconds, but I didn't talk to them any more. All they have to do is show me the slightest bit of respect like this, and all the anger goes away. I actually had a slightly funner time after just being talked to for 1 second like that. It improved my mood by about 1000x.

^The best part of this post. Honestly, if they didn't like you at all, they would have flat out ignored you. They at least acknowledged you and didn't run away. They actually created an opening for you to chat with them.

There are "hot" girls everywhere. Or at least there are girls who can dress themselves up to look hot for a night. You can see 100's or even 1000's on any given weekend night down town. No shortage. I can't "connect" with a single one. I don't even know what "connect" means, really.

We might have different views on connecting. For some guys, just banging them is connecting. That's fine.

I am not really motivated to make "that girl" into "my girl."

Don't have to marry her.

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Like I could just call them up and ask if they want to fvck and they'll say "sure." I'm not sure if that will ever be reality for me, but I'm also not sure if that's reality for ANY GUY. It seems like it's asking a lot. Maybe 1 in a million guys can do that, or someone in a position of power like Genghis Khan or Fidel Castro.
A lot of stuff here, so I'll just comment on a few pieces... See above.
 
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A lot of stuff here, so I'll just comment on a few pieces... See above.
Wow someone actually read that whole thing? Thanks! Lol.

Several hours after the hooker, thoughts are... I needed to take a shower to get the stench of hooker pu$$y off me.

Also, just researching and planning for future real estate investments.

Most importantly, I realize I have time and money to go to Europe for 3 weeks next month. Gonna forget about all this PUA stuff and just have fun. I'm going to London, Paris, and probably Berlin.

And not a single insult in the entire response! Thanks! I'm almost in disbelief.
 

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I wish I could have sex with non-hookers on demand like that. Like I could just call them up and ask if they want to fvck and they'll say "sure." I'm not sure if that will ever be reality for me, but I'm also not sure if that's reality for ANY GUY. It seems like it's asking a lot. Maybe 1 in a million guys can do that, or someone in a position of power like Genghis Khan or Fidel Castro.

Only one in a million guys can have fvck buddies? I think you are being just a touch pessimistic.

Having so many hookers is making you look at all women as hookers. It's not helping you get a non-prostitute. You would be better served to pay her to put her clothes back on and go out with you in public to teach you how to act. You need a woman to be honest with you and tell you when you look and act like a weirdo, so you can stop doing it. Hooker or not, if you want to pay a woman money, pay her to be your wing woman. That's where you need help.
 

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These are notes from about 12 hours of going from bar to bar yesterday drinking beer after beer... I know this is probably too long for anyone to want to read, but that's to be expected from 12 hours worth of notes.

It was said a little while ago that value can be subjective, so in that case, I am free to place my own subjective value on people.

Any 2 people are psychos after knowing each other for a week. The psycho in the person always comes out.

Not all girls are prostitutes that will have sex for money. Lol. Like the girls working at the bars. Perhaps they may be impressed with a successful guy, but they probably won't fvck you for a few hundred bucks. I think I should start going out more so I get used to it. I used to out a lot in the past few years, but lost interest lately.

Even saying 3 words to someone is better than sitting in complete silence. 1000x better.

With me, the pleasantries of socialization break down in a matter of minutes. It kind of stops me from talking, because if you're too honest, then you are not being polite or politically correct. Like that girl sitting 5 feet away from me with the huge crooked nose who is painted up like she's Cindy Crawford. What am I supposed to do? Tell her that? Or should I just say nothing to her?

I should of course keep trying to make money in my business, but I shouldn't wait to be mega-rich before I try to get some. Maybe they would like a d1ck even better than a rich guy. Maybe a fvck buddy.

Maybe if I started talking more, I would be seen as more socially normal. But I really don't know what to talk about. Seems that people just talk about mundane stuff all day. My face is known in a lot of places down town, but I don't exactly "know" people... like I don't have them on FaceBook or anything. My reputation is kind of ruined from when I was arrested, so I would hate if word got out about that, then I would be seen as an outcast anywhere I went. Best to just keep quiet about it, which of course means I can't truly get to know people if I'm hiding my past, but it is what it is.

At one point, I was feeling old. But that lawyer I posted about was 47 when he was dating that porn star and Neil Strauss was 32 when he started. I'm 30.

What if I had a mansion? Would that help?

Why can't I just be nice? Maybe that would work? But with how negative the world is... people getting blown up, etc... are you gonna put the blame on ME for being negative, like I started it?

Sex isn't worth the investment to me of having a monogamous "girlfriend." It is cheaper, in a lot of ways, to get a hooker. To me, sex with a hooker and a non-hooker is the same.

Other people talk about PEOPLE all day long, it seems. I suppose I just don't find people all that interesting. I don't really desire to know "that guy" or "that girl over there."

I hate hip-hop because it's stupid and only stupid people like it, which seems to be everyone. Seems like every girl in there mouths the words to all the hip-hop songs that come on the speaker like it's important or something. I see that as a sign of stupidity and low value.

When I see girls talk to dogs, it makes me lose all hope in humanity. They would care if their dog died probably more than they cared if I died.

There were tons of guys with large muscles that didn't seem to be doing well. I really think it would be a waste of time for me to spend lots of time in the gym. I think a change in attitude would be more important if I were ever to have success.

I am deep, dark, and disturbed. Especially after having drank quite a few beers. It takes me several beers to even know what my emotions are, especially in such a chaotic place.

Society is fvcked up. There were female security guards as if they're gonna do anything.

After going out, I don't think height is that much of an issue. I saw guys that were not tall with girls. And, yes, I did see lots of tall guys with girls as well. But I think it would be a mistake to obsess about my 5'7.5" height. Nothing I can do about it. I don't think looks are the issue, either. I think it has much more to do with personality, although I could be wrong. I really don't know.

Heck, maybe THEY are the problem! Maybe it's their pretentiousness and thinking their sh1t doesn't stink. Overvaluing themselves and their pu$$y/sexuality to ridiculous extremes.

There is no point in pursuing something that I don't value. I see a bunch of 4's and 5's walking around painted up acting like they're supermodels. It's pretty ridiculous actually. Yet there is nothing in the world that can stop me from waking up thinking about sex every day. It's just biology. I can assign my own subjective value to people even if you call me delusional.

Plus, monogamy is unnatural and annoying anyway.

Can you imagine if you (a guy) were to walk around thinking that your BUTT gave you value? Ridiculous. Like, literally, where your sh1t comes from.

I had no fun really. I wasn't impressed by any of the customers or bartenders. I didn't think they were special or interesting. Although I'm sure they thought the world of themselves.

Most girls would not give me the kind of sex I would want, anyway, even if they were to have sex with me. And definitely not ON MY DEMAND. So what am I really after anyway?

There used to be a lawyer that went down town all the time. Different one than I talked about earlier. He was 36 and always around young girls. Everyone knew him as a rich guy. If I started making money flipping houses, maybe I could do the same? If I would have the desire to? But my reputation is ruined from the arrest when I was younger.

At one point, everyone looked like a bunch of little kids jumping up and down at the result of sports games on TV. Honestly, what's important here?

Even when 1-on-1, I'm not motivated to approach in any sexual way.

It takes me 12 beers to be even a little bit extroverted. Most people are 100x more extroverted even when sober.

I wish they (females) could show me something more than dancing around like an idiot to a bunch of stupid hip-hop songs. Yet I still am the one who has to "impress" them? And "work on myself" and all that nonsense? Ridiculous.

At one point, some girls came up to me and asked me if I'm okay because I'm quiet. I just said "yea." And they stood around me for a few seconds, but I didn't talk to them any more. All they have to do is show me the slightest bit of respect like this, and all the anger goes away. I actually had a slightly funner time after just being talked to for 1 second like that. It improved my mood by about 1000x.

There are "hot" girls everywhere. Or at least there are girls who can dress themselves up to look hot for a night. You can see 100's or even 1000's on any given weekend night down town. No shortage. I can't "connect" with a single one. I don't even know what "connect" means, really.

I am not really motivated to make "that girl" into "my girl."

____________________________________________________________________________

Then, today, I was bored and decided to go to a hooker. Something I haven't done in months. It's fun. No anger, no bu11Sh!t. Just sex. She was decent looking, but once you've been with enough people.... how "good" can someone look with their a$$ pointing at you. It's just an a$$ and a pu$$y. Not rocket science or anything special. And, of course, she asked why I had an implant at such a young age.

I am kind of motivated to call another one, but I don't want to spend that much money in one day. I wish I could have sex with non-hookers on demand like that. Like I could just call them up and ask if they want to fvck and they'll say "sure." I'm not sure if that will ever be reality for me, but I'm also not sure if that's reality for ANY GUY. It seems like it's asking a lot. Maybe 1 in a million guys can do that, or someone in a position of power like Genghis Khan or Fidel Castro.

RTF. I know we have exchanged words before but I mean this in gentlemanly good spirit.

You seem to think the only value you bring, or men bring, is money. It isn't

You talk about women in terms of sex. As if this is the only reason to be interested in them.

Strip those two aspects away, and there is a range of things in between.

Women are great at some stuff and they really benefit you. They organise the home. They can bring you a social life you wouldn't get as a single man. They can dress you better, some can care for you very well. You can offer them a range of competancies, from building shelves to drive long distances.

Then, there's friendship. Good jokes, good laughs. Shared experience.

try to see male/female relationships as more than a money/pvssy exchange because there is a rich life between men and women which is beyond that.
 

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Wow someone actually read that whole thing? Thanks! Lol.

Several hours after the hooker, thoughts are... I needed to take a shower to get the stench of hooker pu$$y off me.

Also, just researching and planning for future real estate investments.

Most importantly, I realize I have time and money to go to Europe for 3 weeks next month. Gonna forget about all this PUA stuff and just have fun. I'm going to London, Paris, and probably Berlin.

And not a single insult in the entire response! Thanks! I'm almost in disbelief.
Whatever about women......sounds like a great trip. Enjoy it. I've been to all three cities....you will have a blast
 
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