duke007
Master Don Juan
Here's my previous thread for some background info.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65351
We just had our first date and it's pretty clear that she wants me. I didn't f*ck her though....yet.
On the way to that date in the train I overheard two teenage girls talk about a parent seeing a younger woman by 6 years. "That's like an 18yo going out with a 12yo! Ewwwwwww," one of them said. Well if I wasn't already a little nervous now I was sh1tting my pants!
When I met her, she looked hotter than I remembered! I think she made a big effort....hair straightened, bit of makeup, smelled nice. HB7. Suprisingly her profile made her look like a HB8. But I could see the age in her face.
Early in the conversation I tried many different ways to get her to reveal her age but she wasn't going to give in. I made it clear as day that I was 21 to demonstrate I was confident with seeing older women but this didn't help either. At one point she let slip she hadn't gone scuba diving for 9 years. So surely she's at least 27???
After having a juice at a nice cafe the waiter came up to see if we wanted more. I asked if she was thirsty and she says, "No that's OK, let's go for a walk or something" And then not long after she says something like, "We need to find a place to have dinner" At first I'm thinking that I should be in control of the date and letting her dictate what we do is AFC. But how can you tell a hungry girl that dinner isn't part of the deal?? I just went along with it. She paid her share which was pleasing.
Even though she was shy we got along well. At one moment she would act like a mature adult capable of intelligent conversation and other moments would act like a cute little girl. Teasing and C+F still works on older women. In fact, at times the tables had turned so much that it seemed I was the 30yo talking down to a cute little 18yo! Very strange.
I eye contacted the hell out of her at dinner and then we walked to the train station. On the way I ran the Cube on her and the results were pretty dodgy. It makes me wonder whether the Cube is THAT good of a seduction tool. If a girl has issues it can make her feel insecure about them (especially regarding friends and men)
When I asked about the horse, she said it was a lot bigger than the cube (which was decently sized) and stomping it into the ground with its hoof! I almost didn't want to tell her the meaning of it because that's pretty negative.
Anyway, since I've had bad experiences with first kisses in the past I decided from now on I'd only give hugs at the end of the first date. One girl rejected my attempt and another took it as a sign that I wanted to skip dating and become her BF straight off. Only a shallow b1tch would lose interest for not making a move so soon. I makes you appear a challenge and takes away all the awkwardness.
So when we parted ways I went straight for a big long hug. She actually made a face like she was expecting a kiss but I was already committed to a hug. I know this could be seen as a mistake but I left with all the power.
There are two little issues though. Firstly, she came across as shy and introverted and seemed to have bad luck with men and friends throughout her life. As the date wore on it became clear she was a "good girl" and craved some sort of relationship. Not a sexually aggressive woman who'd take the lead and only want me for a good f*cking. I knew if I kissed her on the street (with no chance of sex that night) it could imply I wanted more than a physical relationship. If we'd gone to a bar, knocked back a few and did it there it would have been different.
Secondly, her roommate is my age and USED TO BE IN MY HIGH SCHOOL CLASS! Damn it's a small world. While I never spoke to her that much, she knows how quiet and lame I was around females back then. She even has class photos of me looking like a runtish douchebag!
What's worse is I'm still loosely connected to her through other friends. I've been out for drinks a few times with some female high school associates and they still see this roommate on a semi-regular basis. Therefore if I screwed around with this woman and then left her coldheartedly, the news would spread like wildfire!
Always complications when I meet women! Oh and forgot to mention the virgin issue is still hovering around
Think I should still f*ck her and deal with the consequences later?
cheers
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65351
We just had our first date and it's pretty clear that she wants me. I didn't f*ck her though....yet.
On the way to that date in the train I overheard two teenage girls talk about a parent seeing a younger woman by 6 years. "That's like an 18yo going out with a 12yo! Ewwwwwww," one of them said. Well if I wasn't already a little nervous now I was sh1tting my pants!
When I met her, she looked hotter than I remembered! I think she made a big effort....hair straightened, bit of makeup, smelled nice. HB7. Suprisingly her profile made her look like a HB8. But I could see the age in her face.
Early in the conversation I tried many different ways to get her to reveal her age but she wasn't going to give in. I made it clear as day that I was 21 to demonstrate I was confident with seeing older women but this didn't help either. At one point she let slip she hadn't gone scuba diving for 9 years. So surely she's at least 27???
After having a juice at a nice cafe the waiter came up to see if we wanted more. I asked if she was thirsty and she says, "No that's OK, let's go for a walk or something" And then not long after she says something like, "We need to find a place to have dinner" At first I'm thinking that I should be in control of the date and letting her dictate what we do is AFC. But how can you tell a hungry girl that dinner isn't part of the deal?? I just went along with it. She paid her share which was pleasing.
Even though she was shy we got along well. At one moment she would act like a mature adult capable of intelligent conversation and other moments would act like a cute little girl. Teasing and C+F still works on older women. In fact, at times the tables had turned so much that it seemed I was the 30yo talking down to a cute little 18yo! Very strange.
I eye contacted the hell out of her at dinner and then we walked to the train station. On the way I ran the Cube on her and the results were pretty dodgy. It makes me wonder whether the Cube is THAT good of a seduction tool. If a girl has issues it can make her feel insecure about them (especially regarding friends and men)
When I asked about the horse, she said it was a lot bigger than the cube (which was decently sized) and stomping it into the ground with its hoof! I almost didn't want to tell her the meaning of it because that's pretty negative.
Anyway, since I've had bad experiences with first kisses in the past I decided from now on I'd only give hugs at the end of the first date. One girl rejected my attempt and another took it as a sign that I wanted to skip dating and become her BF straight off. Only a shallow b1tch would lose interest for not making a move so soon. I makes you appear a challenge and takes away all the awkwardness.
So when we parted ways I went straight for a big long hug. She actually made a face like she was expecting a kiss but I was already committed to a hug. I know this could be seen as a mistake but I left with all the power.
There are two little issues though. Firstly, she came across as shy and introverted and seemed to have bad luck with men and friends throughout her life. As the date wore on it became clear she was a "good girl" and craved some sort of relationship. Not a sexually aggressive woman who'd take the lead and only want me for a good f*cking. I knew if I kissed her on the street (with no chance of sex that night) it could imply I wanted more than a physical relationship. If we'd gone to a bar, knocked back a few and did it there it would have been different.
Secondly, her roommate is my age and USED TO BE IN MY HIGH SCHOOL CLASS! Damn it's a small world. While I never spoke to her that much, she knows how quiet and lame I was around females back then. She even has class photos of me looking like a runtish douchebag!
What's worse is I'm still loosely connected to her through other friends. I've been out for drinks a few times with some female high school associates and they still see this roommate on a semi-regular basis. Therefore if I screwed around with this woman and then left her coldheartedly, the news would spread like wildfire!
Always complications when I meet women! Oh and forgot to mention the virgin issue is still hovering around
Think I should still f*ck her and deal with the consequences later?
cheers
