Crew of Chumps Vs. DJ solo Closing!?

[DarkLight]

Sup Peeps!?

So I just realized a phenomena, that occurs to me, and slows my roll.

I'll easily create attraction, and pimp some sh!t w. a girl or 2 at a bar. But when closing comes around, and they're in a crew... I find they usually roll w. another crew (of AFC fvcks). Only reason being... they're equal numbers, thus nobody is dissing anyone's friend. Also... the more peeps, the more they'll have a chill spot, or something group accessible.

Sh!t, usually hampers my ****, cause I roll solo.

I'll mack some chick, get her number... and when the end of the night comes around, she'll be locked into the group phenom of her friends, and another guy group. Even though I have more value than any single one of them, the value of them as a group, dictate the "chicks" group.

Wondering what angles you guys drop (if any) in such scenarios?

-My only bet is, solidifying myself into her and her friends w. such value that I become a pre-requisite to their group, and wherever they're going.

But sometimes I'm such a nomad, I don't care to put in the time for that.

So once again...... lets hear it!?
Ideas...?

 

[nvictor]

Get new friends. Go out with them. Avoid company that makes you feel miserable.

 

[Derek Flint]

Start going for the F close instead of the # close.

Only get the number when all other options have been exhausted.

Also, if you have her number, you can call her that same night while she's with the AFC's and run some phone game on her to try to seperate her from the pack.

Either way, you need to isolate her during the evening, as it's unlikely she's going to play in front of her friends.

And, don't be shy to approach the group at the end of the night and try to work your way into their after-hours plans.

I roll solo often, and that is what has worked for me.

 

[rocco]

crew of chumps > solo dj

 

[DarkLight]

I hear you Derek.

Often I'll mack a few chicks during the night. See whats crackin, and check all my options. Very rarely will I want to stick my night w. one chick, the whole time at the bar. I'm a charmer... so I gotta BS/Float.

W. that said... my F-Close approach is only on the dimes. Or, in circumstances like this... I'll loop around towards the end of the night, and try to chat it up again. But... this AFC group dynamic thing, usually blows at this point of the night. No fvckin way are they hip to some suave fvcker w. established rapport, dipping in on one of the few chicks (they're trying to escort away). So... even when chatting the group up, its cool sometimes, and I roll with (only to dominate, lol). But... most of the times, thats so well apparent, dudes see it, and nip the bud.

Anyways, I think you dropped a good gem.
Create more with her, during the night (before its over). This way, its like an unspoken solidity.
You already got that sh!t to some extent, thus can return to it.
Might have to start making out mid-way through the night, then do a lap or 2, and come back. hehehee

As far as hitting her up, same night, while she already bounced to another a story... not my style.
Seems to extraneous. lol

But cheers G'
You turned some new thoughts.

 

[Cod3r]

I've had this problem as well, it used to be a headache until I figured it out...

You've got to befriend guys in your venue. So many tools are around without knowing what to do, u'd be surprised the amount of guys you can collect into a powerful group by a little social tooling as I like to call it...

Walk into the venue and notice the shmucks without friends and who are trying to stand by the people with friends like they are apart of the group and the guy drinking and looking at the game at the bar, and the guy who came with the chicks and he's being freezed out, u should notice at least 10 or so guys from any one venue (at least from my experience in ny)...

I go up to these guys with openers like, "dude hot chicks in here eh ?" and they are so thankful I saved them from looking like losers and they instantly chat you up, never had a problem at all, never... Then just lead the guy like a chick, if you're more alpha than he is he'll easily submit to your leading...

While they are talking, cut them off and change subjects... just tool the guy like the guy in your group that everyone likes but no one respects. Instantly downgrade his status to under yours and make sure he knows it, once you've established dominance with these shmucks its your group and now when you go into close females do your normal thing and now u got guys to take the fall for you if there are ugs in the female group...

This works golden for me, try it out...


-Cod3r

 

[DarkLight]

I hear you... and its good advice, as it is effective for what your describing.

I guess my scenario is different though.
Since I roll solo most of the time, while out, I often find myself creating a few connections w. chicks, but at the end of the night, a group of guys are trying to pull their group to an "afterparty" (whatever it may be). Thats where I'm finding my trouble. Because obviously they're not gonna want to add another guy to the mix, let alone a stranger, and even beyond that... someone who already has macked rapport, with one of the chicks.

So while getting a few cool connects w. dudes at the bar is great for certain circumstances... this end of the night group to group sh!t, fvcks my solo roll up.

With that said, considering your 2 cents, I would just seek to rap it more w. some groups of guys throughout the night. Figuring which group, who would swing a later gathering, should be pretty easy. Might just have to include a few cool cats in my pvssy hunt. lol

This might be an unnoticed sticking point of mine.
While I know a few heads at my local bar, most of them the "COOL" group. I still fly solo.
I guess I just find it easier to game chicks, than shoot the sh!t sometimes while out.
In the sense that thats my desire, so why deviate!?

Glad you mentioned this.
Peace'