Complimenting

[zekko]

I happened to be in position to observe a few acquaintences interact the other day. One was a woman, attractive enough face but absolutely slamming body, I'll give her an 8.2. The other was one of these guys I've been talking about lately that pull a lot of ass but don't really have any money, career, or future going for them.

Anyway, this guy was very obviously hitting on her. This was no cold approach, they knew each other. The dude was making small talk, leaning back, being chill, and touching her a lot.

But here's the thing: He was complimenting her like a madman. About every other thing out of his mouth was something like "You're so hot, you're so pretty, you're so beautiful". He was also very sexual, talking about how big and shapely her boobs were, how much he liked her ass, her legs, etc.

I was curious about what the guys here thought about this approach.
My impression was that the girl was eating this up, liked the attention, and may have gotten so swept up with it that she would bang him, I don't know. But it seemed to me like he was giving too much value away with all the compliments. It made him come across a little to much like a yapping dog at her heels, a little too eager. "Oh most beautiful goddess, let me have a taste of that". A little too undignified for my personal style.

Of course, if you're only looking to score and he did, you might argue who cares if he gives too much value away? As long as he got what he wanted, then that's all that mattered and it was just a line anyway, right?

 

[backbreaker]

if a woman has pretty feet, I can't help myself but to say something about it. It's like I am programmed or something lol. I like pretty feet.

 

[zekko]

if a woman has pretty feet, I can't help myself but to say something about it

Okay, there's one compliment. This dude threw about ten of them her way in about 15 minutes. Specific parts of her body plus several more general "you're hot/pretty/beautiful" comments. Obviously it works for him because he gets laid.

I don't think he's really respected though, if you know what I'm saying. Of course I'm sure a lot of guys here would say "who cares?" if he's respected as long as he gets pvssy.
My impression was that even if the girl got caught up emotionally with what he was saying and went ahead and banged him (I have no idea if she did or not), she still felt she was higher value than he was.

 

[Lexington]

I happened to be in position to observe a few acquaintences interact the other day. One was a woman, attractive enough face but absolutely slamming body, I'll give her an 8.2. The other was one of these guys I've been talking about lately that pull a lot of ass but don't really have any money, career, or future going for them.

Anyway, this guy was very obviously hitting on her. This was no cold approach, they knew each other. The dude was making small talk, leaning back, being chill, and touching her a lot.

But here's the thing: He was complimenting her like a madman. About every other thing out of his mouth was something like "You're so hot, you're so pretty, you're so beautiful". He was also very sexual, talking about how big and shapely her boobs were, how much he liked her ass, her legs, etc.

I was curious about what the guys here thought about this approach.
My impression was that the girl was eating this up, liked the attention, and may have gotten so swept up with it that she would bang him, I don't know. But it seemed to me like he was giving too much value away with all the compliments. It made him come across a little to much like a yapping dog at her heels, a little too eager. "Oh most beautiful goddess, let me have a taste of that". A little too undignified for my personal style.

Of course, if you're only looking to score and he did, you might argue who cares if he gives too much value away? As long as he got what he wanted, then that's all that mattered and it was just a line anyway, right?

You will notice that this guy is being very sexual with his compliments (talking about boobs and areas of fetish such as legs). These aren't your typical "nice guy" compliments. He's pretty much saying "I want to fvck you."

This guy isn't giving compliments from the position of a guy looking up at a woman on a pedestal. He's being quite direct in his desire to stick it to this girl. That signifies value. He's not beating around the bush....he is advancing as a sexual equal or superior.

It's all about context. When a girl gets a compliment from the textbook nice guy, she thinks "oh, how cute" in the same way she does when her dog tries to impress her. I think she'd have quite a different reaction if a famous rock star paid her that exact compliment.

 

[zekko]

You will notice that this guy is being very sexual with his compliments (talking about boobs and areas of fetish such as legs). These aren't your typical "nice guy" compliments. He's pretty much saying "I want to fvck you."

I agree with what you're saying about his being sexual, although he did mix them in with the more typical "you're beautiful" remarks. It was good that he was very comfortable being sexual. It was the sheer volume of compliments that made me think that he was coming across as supplicating.

If you give a girl 10 compliments in 15 minutes and she doesn't fire even one back at you I think you're losing value. Even if, in terms of a quick pickup, it doesn't really matter.

This is a phenomenon I've been observing lately, where I don't think the women even really think much of these guys. They're not well respected, they don't have a good reputation other than as womanizers. But if the girls want a quickie, they know who they can go to.

 

[Colossus]

I think the occasional, well-placed compliment can do wonders. However, I would rarely, if ever, compliment a girl right off the bat. You can think it, but dont say it. It does diminish your value when you are just flipping them out like hotcakes. Even in a relationship. If the moment is right, say it...just use them sparingly or they will lose their luster.

 

[Tazman]

There are always situations where you'll see a guy doing things that seem to be counterproductive, but without all the details I wouldn't consider something like giving excessive compliments to mean much. Most guys are not in a position to do such a thing and have it work in their favor.

I do know one thing, the more attracted a woman is to you, the more you can get away with.

 

[f283000]

The compliment I give the most is telling girls they look "sexy," it's what mystery recommends.

It's better than telling a girl she looks "nice" or beautiful because telling a girl she looks "nice" could be interpreted in different ways by a girl. She can't tell if you are being sexual or just being a nice guy. It's best to be sexual and to push the envelope and not get stuck in the friendzone.

By telling her a girl she looks sexy you are sending her a message that you are seeing her in a sexual way, are attracted to her in a sexual way, not a nice guy "friend" sort of way or just giving a compliment like when you say "you look nice, beautiful" etc.

Good looking women get compliments all the time i'm sure she's heard the word "nice, beautiful" countless times. But few guys have the balls to just flat out say "you look damn sexy in those jeans girl!"

It's little things like this that can send a message to a girl that YOU MEAN BUSINESS, NOT FRIENDZONE!

"I think you look damn sexy" I like using

 

[st_99]

I think whatever you're doing, you have to be doing it from a certain frame of mind.

somebody can say.. "damn girl, you're fine, I just want to...." in a way that comes across like, yeah, i do want to bang the hell out of you and I'm not gona apologize for it. I guess that would be the dominating thing the other poster wrote about.

but one can also say "you are so beautiful and sexy" and come across like a chump if you're saying it from a supplicating state of mind.

Just a thought. A lot of times it doesn't really matter what you say, just how you say it. And I think it solves that age old riddle of, the girls i like don't like me and the girls that I don't like, want me. It's because you're dominating the girls that you don't want with confidence, you say what you want, you say it without being squeamish, etc.

Everything always comes back to that "confidence" thing everyone keeps talking about.

 

[backbreaker]

looking at the other end, I remember even when I was a true AFC, i wasn't bad looking. my old oneitis would see me from time to time and I would have put it together, and she would say 'you look really handsome today" or something. In reality she meant that but not in a sexual way, I just happened to look nice that day, no different than my little sister getting her hair done and I complimenting her on it.

I have been told by women I have a nice ass lol. So sometimes I will hear a woman say you know.. you have a really nice ass or something. That is a very sexual reference, that leaves no doubt about what they are thinking about.

 

[zekko]

So the consensus is that the guy is doing well by keeping such a sexual frame with the comments about the girl's body. Maybe the sheer volume of compliments work for him too, because he's so relentless with it, he's like a dog with a bone lol. A girl probably figures if she ever gets alone with this guy he'll be all over her, pronto.

I still find all the compliments excessive, but it's interesting to see what can work for different personalities. And like I said before, he doesn't have a lot going for him status-wise, he probably doesn't have much to lose.

Backbreaker, I saw your picture in that "post your pic" thread. You look just exactly like the type of guy that women drool over, I've seen it repeatedly.

 

[backbreaker]

thanks for the compliment.

 

[Jitterbug]

Ever seen Italian, French or Spanish men work their game?

 

[Jeffst1980]

Lexington and Da both made great posts.

I'm a firm believer that the self always shines through--no matter what you say, girls have a way of sensing masculinity, and I think that's why this approach worked. He was being the guy that takes what he wants and says what he wants, so it was clear to her that he wasn't supplicating.

The indirect stuff that Neil Straus recommends is a ticket to the friendzone, IMO. You HAVE to signal intent from the getgo, but in a masculine way. Paying a girl a ton of compliments right off the bat is overkill, but saying "you're cute, who are you?" is a really great opener.

The minute you demonstrate clear sexual intent, one of two things will happen: Either she'll blow you out (not a bad thing, since you won't waste your time), or she'll start flirting with you and testing you, which is what you want. If you don't make it clear that you're into her, she won't feel always feel "safe" enough to be flirty around you. Remember: sane women WON'T risk rejection. That's our job.

 

[zekko]

He was being the guy that takes what he wants and says what he wants, so it was clear to her that he wasn't supplicating.

I agree that he was going for what he wanted, and being masculine in that regard. But I still think he was supplicating. The frame was very much that she was the beautiful girl on a pedestal. The fact that he wanted to fvck her and as much as said so didn't change that. I got the impression from her behavior that she was very much in control, that she knew she had higher value than this guy.

She's a sexually open sort of girl, and I got the impression she enjoyed the attention he was giving her, and would probably enjoy the hookup. But I still felt that he was supplicating and they both knew it. It's just that he didn't care as long as he could get some pvssy. I can imagine no scenario in which she would chase this guy.

 

[f283000]

Ever seen Italian, French or Spanish men work their game?

Very sexually aggressive.

The difference is that they haven't had a huge feminist movement to feminize the men like they have here in the west.

 

[jophil28]

Guys who work like that make me cringe . There is no elegant skill or sophisticated mystique in someone who delivers rapid fire, over the top, empty flattery like that. Those guys use the shotgun approach hoping that one or more of their pellets will return a kill .
The whole technique is crude and primitive.
He may bring down a few women who are desperately in need of some ego inflation but I doubt that he scores much at all.

I agree with Zeek, he is supplicating and placing her on a pedestal.
I cannot see any real mature masculinity in his behavior . I do see, desperation, panic and a form of indirect grovelling for sex..

 

[DonJuan11]

I happened to be in position to observe a few acquaintences interact the other day. One was a woman, attractive enough face but absolutely slamming body, I'll give her an 8.2. The other was one of these guys I've been talking about lately that pull a lot of ass but don't really have any money, career, or future going for them.

Anyway, this guy was very obviously hitting on her. This was no cold approach, they knew each other. The dude was making small talk, leaning back, being chill, and touching her a lot.

But here's the thing: He was complimenting her like a madman. About every other thing out of his mouth was something like "You're so hot, you're so pretty, you're so beautiful". He was also very sexual, talking about how big and shapely her boobs were, how much he liked her ass, her legs, etc.

I was curious about what the guys here thought about this approach.
My impression was that the girl was eating this up, liked the attention, and may have gotten so swept up with it that she would bang him, I don't know. But it seemed to me like he was giving too much value away with all the compliments. It made him come across a little to much like a yapping dog at her heels, a little too eager. "Oh most beautiful goddess, let me have a taste of that". A little too undignified for my personal style.

Of course, if you're only looking to score and he did, you might argue who cares if he gives too much value away? As long as he got what he wanted, then that's all that mattered and it was just a line anyway, right?

BINGO. Whatever works to get to girl into bed is what matters. Some girls need tons and tons of direct compliments, others like one or maximum two a day. There is no RIGHT or WRONG way as to what you do and say.

You have to talk and act to YOUR AUDIENCE. Would you talk to an 18 year old girl you were trying to sleep with the same to 33 year old women? Of course not. Some women like tons of sexual tension, some like tons of foreplay, some like tons of courting, some like no talk, some like straight to the point like porn movies.

You have to do whatever works to get the results and don't sweat the technique.

 

[zekko]

You have to talk and act to YOUR AUDIENCE.

I think in this case he's not tailoring his act to his audience, this is just his style. Except it looks like the prettier the girl, the more compliments he gives. He gets results, so I guess it's okay for him.

I couldn't imagine working like this myself however - it seems like he's exchanging his dignity for sex.

 

[jophil28]

I couldn't imagine working like this myself however - it seems like he's exchanging his dignity for sex.

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IT is not even a guaranteed exchange. In fact he is giving away his dignity in the vague hope that she will reward his gush of flattery with sex.

Now how is that going to work with attractive women who already hear daily compliments from a parade of men.