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Kodak

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Here are my suggestions for the DJB:

move DTLs most 'looking to marry the right person" to ltr

move DonJoey - Character traits to have? to ltr. I think this is also an ltr post, since the girl is married.

these two are both under the general heading "specials" now

in the bible under LTR, TND had a good post on how to keep a gal, but that is more of a get the gal post than a LTR post


neg hit stuff - on a quick glance, i didn't see any posts that directly mention neg hits in the bible. Maybe they are hiddin in there, if not, I'd like to see some.
here are some:
Topic: What to answer if a girl tells you are ugly http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012049.html


height differences, there is only one post for short guys in the bible, there should be more
Topic: Tall Chicks http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012410.html

age differences, worth a post or two, particularly young guys with older girls
no suggestions yet


Looks:

- I'd like to see clothes in there too, no suggestions yet

I think this is good:
Topic: The Beautiful People... http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008642.html

special:
Topic: Should we say that guys get checked out a ton too? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012230.html

Topic: Advice from the Silver Foxes.... http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008834.html

"Games": http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008508.html
a possible ltr post

more on games:
Topic: Need an answer: Why do girls play games? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007904.html

LTR:
Topic: Not meant for a LTR? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008863.html


Topic: Good in picking up but failed badly in relationship http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012350.html
not quite bible material yet, but I feel like someone has to have a good answer to this

Topic: WHY Do LTRs (3+ or 5+ years) End? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012087.html

Online dating:
Topic: On-line Romance: boffo or bust? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012019.html

Asian girls: (interrracial, black, etc.)
common topic, no suggestions yet

Date suggestiongs:
common topic, no suggestions yet
- also, the issue: 1st date? coffee, dinner, or action date?
there have been good posts lately but they are from double your dating, not sure about that whole copyright thing


for the non-believers:
Topic: Special Message for Newbies, or Gipper on a Soapbox http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012110.html


opps, this started out as only four suggestions.
 

Neophyte

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Hi Kodak,

Thanks for the help. All the threads, except the ones that should be moved, are located in the discussion forum and not in the Tips Section. The DJB only contains Tips until now, because threads in the discussion forum get deleted after a long time.

I didn't had the time to check those articles into detail, but if they're moved to the archive forum, maybe they could reach the DJB.


Thanks,
Neo
 

Kodak

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some more:

Bars and Clubs: (separate topic)
move "Topic: More club tips and tactics " from chapter C

Topic: Bump and Grind http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001059.html

Kino (new topic)?? I saw one post on kino in there, but I know there are more tips than just what was listed there. move "The crook" there


NLP/SS/eliciting values: I know we've had posts on these.

Good answers to tough questions: (topic)
I don't have the posts offhand, but:
do you have a girlfriend?
how many women have you been with?
what are you looking for in a relationship?
do you love me?
etc.

Meeting women (topic)
where to meet women?
when you relocate... how to meet women in a new area?
online dating


Friendzone (topic)
friend vs. seduction modes
LJBF, are you in it?
friend to lover, possible?
friends(girl) as social proof


for an existing topic:
Topic: This interest thing http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001290.html

Topic: how late should you tolerate? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012437.html

LTR:
bossy wives: (Topic: Any married DJs out there? ) http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008988.html

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Kodak

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Hi Neo, guys,

It seem to me that the Bible covers mostly attitude issues right now, definitely a solid foundation.
Pimpologist's Don Juan guide covers pick up issues very well, but covers little else.


These topics seem well covered already:
Attitude
Challenge
Confidence
Sex tips
Nice guy/jerk
Conversation tips
Books
ONS tips
Pickup tips
Pimpology


Here are common topics which are often addressed but are not found or are difficult to find in a major post:


Types of girls
-shy girls
-“conservative” girls
-do all girls really respond to these techniques?
-single moms
-teen chicks
-college chicks
-20s chicks
-30+ chicks
-virgins
-b!tches, man haters

Interracial:
-asian girls – different? (yes/no) more “conservative”?
-black/french/swiss, etc. differences?
-why don’t white girls like me?

Guys and looks:
-I look much younger than I am!
-tanning
-hair style
-hair color
-skin/acne
-tall guys vs short guys
-posture
-shoes (very important)
-teeth
-clothes
-cologne

Working out:
-water
-diets
-supplements/creatine
-good workouts
-running – good or bad?

Neg-hits:
-why? (knock off pedestal)
-examples

Kino:
-what is it?
-examples

Dancing / Clubs:
-how to dance?
-breakdancing
-bump and grind


Understanding women:
-what do women want?
-why are they all b!tches?
-are all women crazy?
-do they all have boyfriends?
-men think, women feel
-women was sex as much as men – discuss
-women are more emotional than men – discuss
-how often are women asked out?
-neg-hits
-NLP/SS/eliciting values
-listen to her – she will tell you what she likes
-why do women play games?
-are they all drama queens?
-cognitive dissonance

LTRs
-are there any nice girls left?
-do I have to be a challenge forever?
-what kind of man do women actually want to be with?
-what kind of man do girls stay with?
-do all relationships end?
-The One (myths, realities)
-divorce (expensive)
-marriage
-do women get bossy after they get married?
-Love
-romance
-why do they always break up with me after 3 months?

Dating in general:
-I just met The One
-dating multiple girls at once (benefits, etc.)
-keep it light
-social proof
-kino
-having fun
-becoming exclusive
-moving in together
-girls leaving stuff at your place


Problems:
-I’ve never had a girlfriend!
-I’m still a virgin!
-I’m really shy
-There aren’t any girls around where I live.
-Take a break – improve yourself
-what if I’m not pretty enough for her?
-I still live with my parents
-I've had 70 rejections in a row

Friends:
-I’ve known this girl all my life, should I ask her out?
-seduction mode vs. friend mode
-friend to lover, possible?

Where to meet?
-everywhere
-coffee/bookstore
-grocery
-street
-walking dog
-groups/activity clubs (volunteer, etc.)
-seminars (new age, etc.)
-work (pros/cons)
-class (high school/ college/ night class)
-online
-bars/clubs
-shopping mall
-gym

Approach/ Chat/ Close
-how to get her attention
-pick up lines? (hi)
-what to talk about? (name, where from, etc.)
-Close (always ask for number)
-bonus, immediate date (let’s go get some coffee/ walk around)
-does getting a number mean high interest?
-I’ll call you (don’t say this)
-she said she doesn’t give out her number to strangers
-home number vs. cell number vs. work number
-I am a challenge, so I can wait for her to ask me out, right?
-I think she glanced at me, does she like me?
-neg hits
-compliments
-what if she has a boyfriend?
-kiss close?
-how often do you approach women?

The Call – First Date Setup
-when to call?
-how long to talk?
-answering machines? caller id? no anwer?
-what to do? she is “busy” this week
-can her friend/kid/etc. come along?
-pick her up? meet somewhere?
-counteroffers
-call to confirm

First Date – What to do?
-coffee (pro/con)
-dinner (pro/con)
-action date, what are they? (pro/con)
-what if no car? no money?
-other date ideas
-what if she doesn’t like my idea (mexican food/ ice skating/ etc.)?

On date
-what if she’s late?
-what if she cancels just before the date?
-what if she just shows up with (her kid, etc.)
-what if she says I’m walking too fast?
-conversation ratio
-conversation topics
-sex talk?
-kino (how; yes/no?)
-gifts?
-compliments?

On Date – Tough Questions
-How many women have you been with?
-What kind of relationship do you want?
-she said “I love you” now what?

Date close
-how long should the date be?
-suggest another date?
-Who pays?
-kiss on first date?

more random topics:
what turns women on? (good post in anything else right now)

what if she's been with a lot of guys?

she called and said she's sick? is this a good excuse?

you know the relationship is over when ...

kissing tips

age differences - is she too young? too old? for me

what is the point? sex, ltrs, what?

Humor:
make her laugh

Social Proof:
what is it?
does it actually get dates?


girls WANT to be treated like property - and they LOVE Players!


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