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Being street smart in dealing with aggressive ppl

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It's kinda dangerous in today's world where there are trouble makers around. There are lots of robbers, ppl who will fight with you if you simply stare at them. I've come across situations like these before and I do not know what to do. And things got worst when im out for a date with a girl I know. For the girl's safety, I will usually ignore these jerks so that problems won't arise.
Like recently, I was out with a girl and when I was walking back to my place at the table after ordering some food, I accidentally bump into a guy walking next to me and he said "Are you blind or what?" I said sorry and I just walked on.

Sometimes, I thought of asking them "Did you forget to wear your spectacles today when you're out because you left it at home?" If I were to do that, I bet there's gonna be an argument and a fight will start.

Sometimes, I was wondering how could I deal with such kind of b@stards who like to find fault. Is it a best thing to avoid arguing with them or perhaps I should learn some skills in fighting or perhaps bring dangerous weapons with me to protect myself during a fight ?. I dont like situations like these because I am not cut out for it. Im usually nervous and shock and would usually retreat. How could I be more calm to handle situations like these? Any of you know how I could handle this?
 

DJ24SEVEN

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Only confront if they make you feel small in front of other people.

Learn self-defense.

If a fight do break out, take him down quick. I usually punch the person in the throat.
 

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One of the ways that you can avoid people that would want to fight you, is to walk and talk confidently. Look like a guy that will not be pushed around. I think when you see thugish looking guys you tend to be scared, and those guys can smell your fear and will act on it. Its a self fulfilling prophesy.

Go to the gym and really try to bulk up. When people see a big guy walking confidently, they will think twice before messing with him.

Take some martial arts classes ( muay thai kick boxing, Brazilian jiu jitsu, Krav Maga, Russian Martial art) you will not be scared of running into thugs because you will have the knoweldge to be kicking their a$$. The people who know how to fight are often the ones who don't pick a fight because they know they have nothing to prove.

The drunken punks jerks often look for a weak targets and are noisey and violent and they don't usually have the discipline to study those technqiues and all they know are street/hockey fights. You will have the advantage (unless they carry weapons of coarse but if you know what you are doing you can disarm them as well)

Don't carry weapons. If you use a weapon, even if its not your fault, you can easily kill someone or go to jail for a long time. Although it is wise to carry a wooden bat in your trunk just in case :)
 

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This is turning into an MA Forum.

We've had a few like this recently. It's certainly not DJ Discussion, more anything else.
 

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Originally posted by Alpine
This is turning into an MA Forum.

We've had a few like this recently. It's certainly not DJ Discussion, more anything else.
MA?


There was a thread like this some time ago, I think it went into the 2-3 pages look it up.

I hate instigators, but I don't like to get into a fight to get banned from a club - it's not worth it.

Once, a guy litterally ***** slapped me. I wanted to punch his face off, but I gave him the finger half an inch off his face and didn't budge. That ***** ducked like a the ***** he was.

It's all about not taking any ****. Pick your battles, is it worth getting thrown out of a place (with your girl) then to just lose face for a few seconds to an obvious ass who's looking to get in a fight? Smart girls WILL make the difference, so no worries about that. Sides, if you do something, you are just playing his game and shooting yourself in the foot.
 

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The best martial art is prevention of the fight in the first place.

Run-fu is pretty good to train in to and is very effective. :D
 

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This is pretty easy to solve.

First, don't go to places where low-lifes hang out unless you want to get into a fight. Period. The only pretty girls that will be there are strippers, off duty hookers, or ghetto/drug types. If you like girls like this check the yellow pages for escort services. There's no reason to date them.

Classy girls don't hang out at places where low life thugs beat each other up.

Second, don't take a date to someplace like this. I.e., don't take pretty girls to run down nightclubs (most nightclubs), scum-bag ex-boyfriends parties, or bars filled with drunk college drop out types. If they try and manipulate you into going to one of these places, tell them "No, We've already made plans to do such and such." or something along those lines. Don't accept the date if they insist on it, you can only lose.

Third, in the event this kind of thing does happen, the trick is to get the aggressor to threaten you and then complain to security or whoever. The problem is you have to do it without looking like a wimp. Here's how:

When they bump you or insult you ask them if there's a problem in a calm and polite voice.

Then, if they smart off to you or make some wise-ass comment, ask them if they're trying to impress they're boyfriend(s). Lowlifes will always do things in a group. They'll genterally threaten you at this point. If they don't wait till they say something and ask them "are you threatening me, a** h*le"

When they say "yes" act indignet, but classy. Like your a lawyer or you go to a private school and get the bouncers attention. Then tell the bouncer the guy is threatening you and your date and you want him thrown out. As he/them is getting thrown out tell him you hope he has fun with his boyfriend. If the bouncer won't throw them out threaten to sue the bouncer and the place. Despite the BS you here from the media or your lying friends, no reasonable person is going to get in a fight with more than one person especially if one of them is bigger than you.

If the guy that's starting the problem looks like he's about to attack you or you think you're going to get in a fight, pull out your cell phone and call 911.

Even if you want to get in a fight with the person make sure you make the 911 call. If you win and hurt somebody or you get in a fight with the wrong person (e.g., he's a drunk beligerent stock broker who can afford a lawyer that will sue you), it'll look a lot better when you wind up in court. Normal people call the police when they're threatened, so they'll assume the other guy is the psycho.
 

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you are fine

The way you have been handling it is fine. You just ignore them and walk off right? Thats all you need to do. If you are cornered, then, I dont know? I hear all these dudes always talking up martial arts but really, its better than nothing but it aint a cure. The guy who will win a fight is the guy with the strongest intention of hurting the other guy. Martial arts can't train you to desire aggression, it can only help you learn the "art" of self defence.

Every time I hear this martial arts balony I just think of how many people are out there fooling themselves. Hey, do martial arts as an adjunct and for the training and the sport, but dont make the mistake of thinking it will replace what you dont have...aggression. Most people who cant fight, I have found, have an over active conscience and can empathize with the victim, as a result, they find it difficult to get the anger required to do battle. If your blood was boiling, eg. if a loved ones life was literally threatened, you would find the ability you desire.

Yes, I have studied martial arts, Yes, it was fun, Yes, I kind of use some of it. Boxing was more helpful because you were pitted against angry rough men who were looking for a ticket out of poverty. Martial arts was a yuppie form of fight training.

At the end of the day, I think you need to work within your boundaries. The absolute worst thing you could do is take a weapon. If you have it, you better damn use it, cause THEY will.

So, sure, do MA but really, it won't help you and your situation. You have nothing to be ashamed of, it is part of who you are. Just walk away like you have been.

I am a little different to you, I am not a bully but I cant take my pride being battered, I would rather be smacked around then back away. But even I know when a guy could kill me easily and I have no chance. In those situations I will look for a retreat with minimal harm.
 

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Originally posted by tb20
This is pretty easy to solve.

I don't know about what goes on in the states but here in the UK, some of the things you said could end-up leaving you in hospital.

First off, apart from obvious exceptions, there are very few places I will avoid because 'there is a small opportunity I could get into a fight'. You could get into a fight walking down the street in the middle of the day.

But most importantly, the situation you described is very cunning and malicious aswell as weak. If that happened around here, you can bet your bottom dollar that those guys who you got thrown out will be waiting for you all night round the corner with some knuckle dusters and some friends. ****, that how people get stabbed.

If you want to avoid a fight, don't look for one. If some tosser gets mouthy with you, weigh the situation up. Could you deck this person? If not, forget it. Ignore him, move to a different area or leave! THATS what a lawyer or a public school boy would do. If you think you can handle the situation, get verbal, get in his face.

I used to get into tons of fights in school mainly because I was small and maybe I looked weak. Now I've grown nobody bothers me. But people my age still get icked on for fights and it's usually because they are ignorant of their surroundings. If you are aware of whats happening around you, you'll avoid getting into trouble.
 
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