Being a DJ and a Virgin are compatible.

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wutangfinancial said:
I'm not impressed. If you're not having sex, it's either because
1. You have a hormonal imbalance.
2. You're socially retarded.
3. You're painfully ugly.

Don't try to turn failure into virtue.
For me personally, it's none of the three above. Wutang, why does it HAVE to be one of those three? Why is it so foreign to you that someone could CHOOSE not to have sex?

Have you read the DJ bible? Book of Pook? If failure is not having sex, and success is banging as many women as possible, what does it mean to be successful in life? To fail? This is straight from the book of Pook, by the way.
 

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Rex Man said:
Wutang and titties summed it up! Nothing else needs to be said! Quit rationalizing your lack of experience because to the initiated; it's quite sad. We'd have a lot more respect for you if you simply said, "Alright guys, I'm getting older and I'm still a virgin. I'm ready to find a chick and lose it. Anyone want to help me out cause what I've been trying hasn't been working out"

Something like THAT requires real cojones and you wouldn't get sh!t from anyone. It's easy to make excuses but you can shut up all naysayers when you take action. Believe me, no one's buying your moral high horse keep 50Gigs of porn and a tub of lotion handy cause it's better than being with a tainted angel cause I deserve better 1850's puritan bullsh!t. Seriously.
Again, why is it so hard to believe that we CHOOSE to be virgins? Does a virgin automatically have problems with women? That seems to be what you're assuming. We can't get the puscy, so we try and cover up for it by going on this moral crusade. Not true at all man. I've already said I didn't make this post to preach, I just wanted to give my point of view on the whole virginity thing.
 

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wolf116 said:
dream on, Don Jaun's life was about fvcking multiple women instead of the regular socially conditioned view of one partner.
Show me somewhere in the DJ bible where it says being a DJ is about ****ing as many women as possible. I could have sworn it was about being the best man you can be...

I'm not arguing with you that the one partner view is socially conditioned, by the way...
 

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azanon said:
Response to the OP (don't have time atm to read all the threads):

You're on the wrong forum JackRyanJuan. Despite the occasional politically correct statements you see that say we're really just trying to become "better men"; that stuff is mostly BS. This is the site you come to, to learn how to f*** and game women, and to look and feel cool while doing it. Some of us actually like f****** more than just about anything (* raises hand *). Based upon your post, you have no interest in this. Given that, you'd be best served moving along. I'm not trying to be rude, rather just wanting to save you some time. From what I understand, "Loveshack" might be a better fit for you.

Azanon, since you're older you can post in the mature man forums; there've been TONS of threads in there about becoming a better man. I love this site, and I love that it teaches men to seduce women. Too many people automatically assume virgin means "AFC." If you came here "to save us from ourselves" and help us "see the light", like lukeskywalker or maybe like LMS, let me speak on behalf of several: We're not interested.
I've already stated in my OP and several times after I'm not here to save anyone. Just trying to give different perspective on being a virgin.
 

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Alright fine, I gotta admit, Connect4 doesn't sound like your typical virgin. He seems to be able to give sh!t just as much as he takes it. So I gotta ask, why are you still virgin? Knock down those sh!t tests and get some pu$$y man. Oh, and dont blame your loser friends. I've got a few of them, and I just scoop up the pu$$y they leave behind :up:

JackRyan -

Look, I wouldn't encourage anyone to do something they weren't comfortable doing but I gotta ask: Are you a willing virgin because

1) of Religous reasons?

2) You're nervous about something?

3) you haven't got the opportunity yet?

4) You have a low sex drive?

5) you don't really like women? (not trying to be inflammatory, but I have an asexual friend.)

It's one of these reasons and I'd guess it's either 2 or 4
 

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Connect4 said:
But in any case, I respect all of your own rights to make your decision.. But I gotta stand up for what I believe in..

I believe in having sex. I know sex is the ****, sex feels awesome, but at the same time I believe it should be with the right woman, and it'll taste way better with that one right woman, because there's is that trust.
You have oneitis with a mystical "right woman" you haven't even met.
 

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Squiggly Sponge said:
Just out of interest Connect4, how many girlfriends have you had? Having one that you care about... I don't agree with, but I respect your opinion. Just make sure it's not the first woman in your life.
I've had dated many girls, but only one girlfriend. It's not.
 

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jacob said:
"Being DJ and a Virgin are compatible?" It's all about mind set and your inner game. If the definition of being Don Juan is building attraction in a female then ofcourse you can become Don Juan with out having had sex.

I believe that you can make females fall head over heels in love with you, with your communication style, and that you can keep they're interest level high and desiring to be in your company even if you don't give them sex. Infact this is how you keep them wanting you, through sexual frustration.

Connect has an advantage over the "typical" guy when it comes to being a prize for a woman. His advantage is he has self control, where as most guys will jump at a chance any woman gives him to have sex, Connect will turn up the females attraction for him when he refuses. He would be perceived as definatley hard to get and a prize to be won.

Reading through the posts, Connect barely returns the hostility towards him and seems to respect the opinions others have of him. This shows me he has inner game and can handle rejection, the test so many females put guys through in order to see how the guy responds. This is Alpha and if he can implement this confidence with the babes guaranteed he'll be desirable to them. He'll be Don Juan.
Hey Jacob, I appreciate that man.
And it's true what you say, it's all about self control and being able to find the right type of girl for you without either parties settling. Once you decide this girls has all of the qualifications that you desire, go for it.. but always be prepared to walk away at any moment if there is any disrespect.
 

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Well that's good to hear. I'm also on my first (girlfriend that is), and don't really want to fall into the obvious pitfalls. As I said, I respect your choice, but many guys are on this site to get laid, it's obvious you'll face plenty of resistance. Kudos for making a decision and sticking to it. Totally not my deal, but I imagine it must get hard at the worst of times (no pun intended).
 

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JackRyanJuan said:
Sex is a powerful thing, and it is different for everyone. I personally came from a religious background, so sex is something I think needs to be experienced from a depth perspective; in other words, there needs to be more to it than just the physical act. I know many guys on here would disagree with me, but I'm simply explaining one factor in my decision not to give up my v-card just yet. If we as men are supposed to develop all areas of our lives, then why should sex be any different?

Specifically to the disgruntled virgins, and the virgins who do not CHOOSE/WISH to be virgins, ask yourselves this: How would your life change if you lost your virginity? I'm guessing it wouldn't change at all. The same things keeping you from getting laid are the same things that will hold you back in other areas of your life; it all amounts to the AFC mindset vs. the DJ mindset. Your virginity is not the root of your problems- it is your mindset.

I personally am somewhere between DJ and recovering AFC. However, I refuse to let a label such as virgin affect me negatively when there's absolutely no logical reason for it to do so. Worrying about being a virgin is AFC; worrying about fuking as many girls as possible is AFC. Being a DJ is about being a complete man, and overemphasizing sex, as has been emphasized in numerous posts on this forum, takes away the balance in your life. Whenever I hear someone talking about how many girls they fuked, I think of a bunch of high school kids having pissing matches in the locker room.
Being a DJ is more about the sex. It's about the mindset. I agree with you there.

Life won't change if you lose the v-card.

I think people are just hating on you because you're not overly concerned with it. Not sure why people just can't let things go. If you're happy then that's cool. But I hope you expected the reaction you got. You're on a forum where lots of guys want to have sex.

btw, being a DJ does not mean that you fuk lots of women. It's about inner game, mindset, and the ability to attract lots of women. Some choose not to have sex with some of the women they get while others do. Point is, lots of sex neither makes you a man nor DJ.
 

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Rex Man said:
Alright fine, I gotta admit, Connect4 doesn't sound like your typical virgin. He seems to be able to give sh!t just as much as he takes it. So I gotta ask, why are you still virgin? Knock down those sh!t tests and get some pu$$y man. Oh, and dont blame your loser friends. I've got a few of them, and I just scoop up the pu$$y they leave behind :up:
We agree to disagree. That's a good step. Now to explain why I choose to be a virgin, as of right now :). Hopefully not for long. First of all, YES, it's hard.. it's absolutely annoying that I can't just have sex with any woman I want. It sometimes drives me crazy. But i know that my mental can overcome my physical urges, and when I find the right person for me, I can give, not only my body, but all of my mind with this girl(not in and AFC kind of way either, mind you).

As a matter of fact, I was dating this girl not too long ago for about 3 and half weeks, she was fairly attractive physically (She was not my ideal, but she was definitely cute and Fvckable) and we hit it off quite well. Long and the short of it, we got very physical to the point of having sex, but I realized that I didn't love her...(lovey duffy bvll**** I know) I CARED about her, because she made me feel good and such.. she made me feel wanted and she looked up to me. FELT GOOD.

But.... on a deeper level, we didn't fit. I knew she wasn't RIGHT for me. And I had I had sexual relations with her, I knew that I would have hurt her for my selfish ends.. and the reason why I stopped was because I did care about her as a human being, and not just some cvm receptacle.

Prior to letting her go, she kept telling me how much she liked me. "I like you alot" "I like you so much.." and I asked her, twice "What is it about me that you like?"

First response:
"because.. um... you're cute, and nice to me"

I asked her again:
-Nothing-

See, I understood perfectly well why she like me. As you all know, being on the forum, you learn a lot about women. I knew her motives. I knew why she liked me ( I won't go further details ) but they were for the wrong reasons.

Hope that gives you more of a perspective Rex
 

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Max Power said:
You have oneitis with a mystical "right woman" you haven't even met.
That's fine, but in the meanwhile, I'll be dating as many girls as possible till I find her. :)
 

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Squiggly Sponge said:
Well that's good to hear. I'm also on my first (girlfriend that is), and don't really want to fall into the obvious pitfalls. As I said, I respect your choice, but many guys are on this site to get laid, it's obvious you'll face plenty of resistance. Kudos for making a decision and sticking to it. Totally not my deal, but I imagine it must get hard at the worst of times (no pun intended).
haha yea i know... i knew I was going to get a bit of resistance, it's ok with me. I was not trying to change anyones lifestyle, because we all come from different backgrounds. My intention was just to suggest perhaps a more wholesome one... so perhaps those who are still learning and lurking around here may take that into account.

Good luck with that gf btw.
 

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There are a few things that I'd like to say here

- First women like sex but they control it by not being desperate about it..here I'm not talking about party hos...
- Second...you can become A Man or A DJ or An AFC or A PUA...all of them are different at certain levels...I'd say being A Man is the most important thing.
- thirdly, Healthy Sex Drive is a great thing, but you got to be a better and an evolved personality than just some porno artist (all fvcky and no personality)
- Seduction and just banging a ho are two different things..Seduction is much more evolved.
- Besides Sex Drive you need to evolve at emotional level as well....
- Last many guys (not all) on this forum are actualy average frustrated chumps with a DJ mask...but havent learnt to be A MAN yet...which means respecting others opinions...as i said not emotionally evolved yet...
- say whatever, Love is important in life and I'm not discounting Sex.

sherineo
 

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I totally disagree. A Don Juan is someone who knows himself, a true man, a quality man that has great personality traits within himself. He also has the ability to attract females and go after what he wants. True, some of the people on this forum came here plainly because they are virgins and they are frustrated that they are not having what they are desiring-sex. But this site is more to it: it's about self-improvement, raising up ur value, achieving goals, and have a stable, quality mindset.

wutang, if you came here to get laid, read up the gunwitch method and seduce. But is that what ALL u came here for? What do you do after you get a woman? Is sex what u are looking for? Then ask a chick to be friends of benefits.

Trust me, there is more in life just to get laid. If you have sex at some point in ur life with someone that u truly love, it's okay. That brings u closer to that female. But you just randomly have sex with some chick, after that, you are nothing.

Improve yourself, know what you truly want to make you happy.

And you are wrong: love is valuable, if you truly love someone, you won't just bang them and ditch her. I am so surprised with what you said..
 

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To the original poster, amen. I totally agree with you; virgins chose to be virgins because they want to wait longer or they have a religion against it. I am a christian and I am learning to be a DJ. DJ is more than street approaching and bang them. It's about being a quality man that knows what the heck he wants in his life.

To the people who disagree with me, read this: http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/djfaq.pdf
 

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wutangfinancial said:
You guys are a bunch of delusional trick morons. Some girl is gonna play you guys so hard...

Most marriages end in divorce. Most hot women do not care about anyone but themselves. This whole unity stuff is some fairytale nonsense. But you wouldn't know, cuz you've never been played by a women you thought you loved. Just wait, just wait....
Have you been played by a woman you thought you loved? Cause it sure sounds so. Also, I really don't see what difference sex makes if this is the outcome you're suggesting.
 

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wutangfinancial said:
You guys are a bunch of delusional trick morons. Some girl is gonna play you guys so hard...

Most marriages end in divorce. Most hot women do not care about anyone but themselves. This whole unity stuff is some fairytale nonsense. But you wouldn't know, cuz you've never been played by a women you thought you loved. Just wait, just wait....
I have to agree with Wutang for once. I note he said "most" women. Not all.
 

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Soo...youre a virgin because you choose to be, huh? You dont believe sex before marriage im pressuming? OR do you belive in sex with the right person, whom you have a deep connection with? The majority of people DONT CHOOSE to be virgins, unless theyre are extrenuating circumstances. You ask if having sex is what being a DJ is about...and to an extent, YES IT IS! Being a complete man does include a sex life. But lets go back to your alleged choice to remain a virgin. I would make the assumption that if you wanted a deep connection with your partner, you would desire a girl who too is a virgin...which is like finding a $100 bill in the streets. Once again, i would assume you wouldnt settle for a girl who has had sex before, as well. My assumptions may be incorrect; however, the logicality of you choice would seem to contradict itself if that were the case.
 

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wutangfinancial said:
You guys are a bunch of delusional trick morons. Some girl is gonna play you guys so hard...

Most marriages end in divorce. Most hot women do not care about anyone but themselves. This whole unity stuff is some fairytale nonsense. But you wouldn't know, cuz you've never been played by a women you thought you loved. Just wait, just wait....
Man cut it with the personal attacks, there's no need for that here.

I see so much of this "women are objects that need to be conquered and destroyed" attitude on this forum. Women are meant to be enjoyed, and THAT is what this site is all about - having the confidence to find the right balance of women in your life. Do what makes you happy. If fvcking 100 girls makes you happy, you can use this site to do that. If you want to find that one girlfriend who is beautiful, smart, motivated, and loves to suck your c0ck, you can use this site to do that. It's not just about seducing as many women as you can.

But I do have to agree with you guys when you say that a DJ and a virgin aren't compatible. Sure, a true DJ doesn't make women the sole focus of his life, but women find him attractive and they can "enjoy him" in that manner. C'mon, we're guys. The set of BALLS that you were BORN WITH give you that kind of drive.
 
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