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Becoming A Social Millionaire

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The following is based on my observations from the "DJs" that came before me; the guys I watched and learned from in the field many years ago. I know that there are quite a few guys here that may not have the same opportunity to see it live like I did, so in the spirit of thanks to those guys that mentored me long ago, I offer up this little chunk of insight with hopes that it will help you as much as it did me.

There is one simple fact rooted deeply in social life that is paramount to pushing your game to exponential levels, and that is that people like to be associated with interesting people. The more interesting you are, the more people will speak highly of you to boost their own social status. If you can achieve this, your game will begin to develop in the absence of your presence. This is when it develops a life of it's own and works for you, even when you're sleeping and completely unaware.

Imagine living your whole life as a construction worker making a meager wage. There is going to be a point in your life when you are going to need a loan, be that for a home or a car, mounting medical bills or whatever it may be. The hoops and tricks you'll have to go through to get approved will not be easy on your income. You'll have to prove yourself. You'll have to chase it. You'll have to work very hard just to be considered for a small loan with high interest, will more than likely be rejected many times, unthankfully dragged through the system and when it finally comes you will possibly end up stuck with terms you may regret later down the road.

The millionaire, on the other hand, has no such issues. Banks pound their doors down offering larger loans with greater deals. Smaller payments. Lower interest. Approvals rushed through. Free perks not offered to "regular" customers (the carpenter) and so on. They can send the banker packing until they come back with a better offer. It all comes easy to them when they need it the least.

Social life and women work under the exact same principles.

If you are socially meager you will need a woman. You will need to chase them. You will need to prove yourself and you will rarely, if ever, get what you were after. You will fail repetitively and often have to settle on terms you may not like. Socially, you're the carpenter.

If you are socially rich, women will want you when you don't need them. They will chase you. You won't need to prove anything and you will often get what you want because it is simply up for offer and there for the taking. You can pick and choose and hold out for better. Socially, you are the millionaire.

So how do you go from carpenter to millionaire? Word of mouth.

Do something that will get people to talk positively about you. There are only 3 requirements in what this thing must achieve:

1) Positive Association: As I said earlier, people like to be associated with interesting people. There was this particular night club I use to frequent that often showcased some of the best local bands in the area. But from time to time, major label acts would play the small venue under an alternate name. Every time this happened, my friend Henry's name would inject into many conversations. Why? Because Henry played in a band that often played at that club, and he was usually able to not only get a few people in on the guest list free of charge, but get you backstage after the show for the party. All Henry needed to become the mystical man to meet for anyone that didn't know him was an average man's effort to be seen as a connected person.

2) Entertainment Value: Women will not claw at each other to get to you if you're the go to man for tax returns, at least not on a sexual level. You want your association to possess an entertainment value. In the previous night club example, the value was simply access to entertainment. But you don't have to be on the VIP list of the city's hottest hot spots. You can just as easily BE the entertainment, and you do not have to be a musician to achieve that. Athletes, actors, even roadies and camera crews have entertainment value. Whatever it may be, it must possess the quality of being a social catalyst. It should lead to nights out or events worth talking about.

A friend of mine worked for a local record store, and he was asked to work overtime at a booth for a local show. Turns out his job was to simply pass out pictures of the bands to people in line waiting to get their autographs. He had access to the booth the bands were sitting in. Women were all over him.

3) Connectivity: If you take this whole article and put it into a spectrum, the millionaire at one end and the carpenter at the opposite end, you will more than likely never be completely on one end or the other. There will always be someone higher than you or lower than you. You're job is to continuously associate yourself with higher ups. Whatever your activity may be, it should give you the opportunity to meet people involved in the same activity; people more talented than you, more connected than you. This will ensure that as you become better at what it is you're doing, you have the right access to expand your influences. All spots become vacant at some point. The DJs of yesteryear eventually give way to the DJs of today, just like fortunes are inherited generation to generation. To become a social millionaire you have to first become a social benefactor, and the best way to become a social benefactor is to begin a path that will make your name worth repeating.

Eventually, you won't have to knock on doors anymore. They'll come knocking on yours.
 
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Interesting examples. It kinda goes back to attitude and personality characteristics.

Positive attitude leads to positive association. Same idea with your personal qualities such as your sense of humour or your interesting social style. Personality leads to connectivity and entertainment value.

I think it is basically as simple as if you have a personality and a positive attitude, women will notice.
 

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Oh, absolutely man. Everything can be pretty much broken down to that at some point. On the other hand, my post is more about positioning even though positive thought is a factor.

The music store guy, for example, didn't use positive thought/mental conditioning. He simply exploited an opportune moment to lure women. Being able to understand and reproduce these moments can lead to compounding results on someone else's effort, and in some cases as I've seen even on someone else's dime.

The Henry I spoke of I would think by SoSuave standards looked like a troll more than a Cassanova, but this guy would fly to Europe on a record label's dime and snag hotties. Now, sure, you can drop 80 grand and go to college for international relations and hopefully someday find a job traveling Europe on the company card, but this guy did it with his hobby.

That's why I spoke of connectivity. Slowly reassociating yourself through your hobbies as you advance in talent with higher ups who share your thing. It's not just about how women see you. It is how all people see you. How opportunity will see you. Think about how many prosperous businesses started off as hobbies and you'll see what I mean. As you gain momentum you will find that the better things of life suddenly start becoming more easily available or even offered, rather than chased after.

Overall, it is the management of opportune timing and injecting immediate interest level into the first two or three degrees of separation. It works on all people and functions completely independant of any particular woman's perceived value.
 
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I'm less than a carpenter. I'm a subway sandwich artist. lol But here's an interesting story about HOW being a subway sandwich artist got me social status at the club.

The Subway I work at is not even a block away from the hottest club in our city. Every Friday and Saturday the clubs staff likes to eat at Subway before working. Before working there, I had actually been to the club only once. I noticed one bouncer that was always extra outgoing and would leave the club with women practically clinging on his arm. He comes into the store often. And due to that, I've come to know him very well. My co-worker goes there often. He asked me to come along one night after work. We went and it turns out that the staff loves our workers so much that they always give us special treatement. I have a few friends that ask me why the hell I get to sit in the VIP section and have a great time with staff members.

Well, they visit us every friday and saturday. And if we're not working, we visit them. We give them 50% off their sandwiches, they give us special treatement.
 

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Not a bad arraingement! But yeah, that's sort of what I'm talking about. I was able to get deals like that when I was fixing the central air in a lot of clubs, although I think certain hobbies can take it a lot further because I've seen it do better outside of myself and into many people I have known over the years.


To add on in general:

Telling people they need social proof to get women is like saying you need money to make money. As true as that may be, it doesn't help a guy who's broke.

The first advice given to anyone asking how to improve their social life is to get a hobby. But there is a difference bewteen a regular hobby that lands you a few friends and one that can crack your social life wide open to big possibilities, which is why I decided to give 3 traits I have noticed a hobby would need to do that.

The hardest thing about 'becoming a social millionaire' and attracting women with as minimal effort as possible isn't saying the right things, dressing the right way, using certain patterns, kino here, C&F there.... it's the status of the hobby itself. I truly believe 100% that if you can apply this knowledge this way, then everything else discussed on this web site will come to you much much easier and more naturally as a result.

In other words, instead of trying to gain confidence to attract women, you instead attract women to gain confidence. And this is how you can do that, how I've done it and how those who have taught me have done it. It's not the only way, but it is an excellent option to consider.
 

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So true. To rephrase you, one needs direction in life to have social proof. After all, how can you have a social life, if your life in general is nonexistent? Now, I need to find a hobby that I could actively pursue, get good at it, and have my social circle expand. I mean, I do have hobbies, but I simply can't see the potential in them.

For example, making music - my music isn't nearly good enough to be sold commercially, (though it has been played in a rave in the uk). I just don't know how to take it further.
 

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A lot of this should be common sense. As distortion said earlier, pos attitude leads to positive association.

Truth is a lot of how the world runs is ironically based off this. Connections and catching up with ppl usually incorporates conversations about friendly associations. by putting others in a good light, not only will they look good but you will too. Because you appear to be someone that would be important to keep in contact with in the future cause of your connections or social circle.

Unfortunately for those who refute this philosophy or concept, fail in the long run in survivability or loss of opportunities due to being arrogant/jealous.

Optimists are often these types of people which is why they often more than usual succeed in life, because of their positive attitude.
Pessimists on the other hand refute this kind of attitude/behavior because they have a negative outlook on life and would prefer not to be bothered by associating or socializing with acquantances.
 

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How does an adult get social proof??? In college and high school its is easy to neatly label people. In the adult world: we have jobs that demand our time, we don't have time to become a regular figure of the night life, our sarging resembles that of a hunter/ gatherer; we pickup women where ever we find them.......

I think that for most us, we lack the time to build the social bonds that your version of the millionaire has time to.... The characters that you mentioned do not live the life of the avg dj.....
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
How does an adult get social proof??? In college and high school its is easy to neatly label people. In the adult world: we have jobs that demand our time, we don't have time to become a regular figure of the night life, our sarging resembles that of a hunter/ gatherer; we pickup women where ever we find them.......

I think that for most us, we lack the time to build the social bonds that your version of the millionaire has time to.... The characters that you mentioned do not live the life of the avg dj.....
That is not true at all. Most of the dj's I know today have full time jobs and still manage to have hobbies and an active night life. I'm in my 30's, still find time for music in my life and I guarentee you I have one of the ugliest employment schedules on this board. Many of the musicians I've played with have full time jobs, even a wife and kids, yet even they manage to find the time to pursue their hobby. If you're single with no kids and you can't find the time for an active social life, something's wrong.

If you have a job that is so demanding as it makes it impossible to have a social life with active hobbies, then you have made the choice to be in that situation. The article isn't wrong, what's wrong is that you've decided to accept not having the time to do these things. You've decided that you were too old for this, too busy for that, too tired for some things, ect., ect.
 

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The following is a breif list of hobbies that I found online and cut/pasted here. Of course, there are millions of hobbies and I obviously don't have the time to cover all of them. Those hobbies in bold are ones I believe have the three elements I spoke of. The others are either boarderline (depending on the person and how they are applied), good enough to make just a few new friends or absolutely pathetic and will only serve to get your ass kicked.


Beekeeping

Dog breeding

Herpetoculture

Horses Although other animal hobbies may have some of the same advantages, horse related hobbies have been very productive for me socially in cool ways. I took a p/t job cleaning stalls while in college because I thought it would be the best way to learn how to ride for free. I ended up talking regularly with owners that bread race horses and raced them on the circuits. This led to certain priviliages at the tracks.

Arts and Crafts

Crochet

Dollhouses and Miniatures

Doll making

Drawing A friend of mine designs logos and art work for businesses and has been able to maintain contacts with custom motorcycle builders, hot rod builders and so on. His talent spreads by word of mouth and his name is on every t-shirt sold at local events.

Embroidery
Knitting

Painting

Miniature figure painting

Tole painting

Pottery

Quilting

Scrapbooking

Sculpture

Sewing

Stained glass

Stamping

Warm glass

Wood carving

Woodworking


Artwork See Drawing.

Autographs

Books

Classic videogames

Coins

Comic books

Currency

Dumpster diving

Found objects

Phillumenism (match-box labels)

Postcards

Records

Stamps

Trading cards such as baseball cards

Computer programming
Linux

Open source and the free software movement

Retrocomputing

Computer games

3d design

Animation design

Cooking This one is a no brainer, especially if you can land a job in a popular place.

Hardware hacking

Amateur radio The possibilities are there.

Robots

DIY (Do It Yourself)

Home Repairs

Film-making No, not porn, but if you can make it work.... I went to high school with a guy that got into film-making later on in life. Mostly b-rated horror, which has a huge fan base of it's own. Many many attractive women vie for a roll in a flick.

Board Games

Poker There are opportunities here if you're any good. The surge in Texas Hold Em on the night life has been huge lately and a lot of women are taking an interest in the game and want to learn.


Role-playing games

Geofiction, including model nations

Historical reenactment, as in the Society for Creative Anachronism

Homebrewing Not quite sure about this one, but I'm considering it as a possibility.

Fan fiction Interactive Fiction

Literature

Reading

Writing Possible, especially if the subject material has anything to do with most of the highlighted things on this list, screenplays and so forth.

Learning foreign languages Not exactly in the immediate hobby group I am speaking of (unless you can drive women wild with it), but you can never go wrong knowing a foreign language.


Machining

Model airplanes, rockets, and ships

Model cars, including radio-controlled

Model houses

Model nations

Model railways/railroads

Antique cars There is no doubt about it. Having associations in this circuit is going to get you some attention. I know of a few guys that are into cars, motorcycles, trucks and have ended up in popular mags featuring their talents.

Kit-cars

Motorcycles See Antique cars.

Trucks See Antique cars.

Music I think this has already been covered.

Singing and playing musical instruments

Amateur astronomy

Metrophilia

Train, plane, and bus spotting

Birdfeeding, birding, and birdwatching

Butterfly watching

Caving

Canoeing and kayaking

Gardening, including forest gardening, organic gardening, wildlife gardening, and permaculture

Hiking

Kite flying

Mountain climbing

Rafting

Stone skipping

Rockhounding (rock and mineral hunting/collecting)

Walking

Photography Find me an attractive woman that isn't into photography and I'll give you $100. Find me a model that doesn't want to meet a good photographer with connections and I'll give you $1000.

Kite photography

Physics demos or experiments

Puzzles

Recreational drug use Research-related

Genealogy

Hagiography

Restoration of highly entropic artifacts

Antique machinery

Houses

Sports Any competitve sport has good potential.


Sailing There are always sailing events and competitions. Being more than a ticket buyer certainly will have advantages. And what woman doesn't want to sail around the world?

Shooting rifles, pistols, and shotguns

Feel free to add on those hobbies you think were missed or misrepresented here, with examples if possible.
 
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