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Attraction Economics

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Sometimes we pursue a woman, or a woman a man,
simply because of competition. If the level of interest
towards someone is bellow 50% but an opponent is
introduced, the interest level goes up, not because
anything about the target changed, but because of
their increase in value, because of the competition for
the target's affection.
This is not unlike economics, supply and demand. There's
only one of the target, but now the demand for the
target has increased. This increases the targets value
in our eyes. The target is still the same, but the
value we ascribe to it rises because of the competition.
Why does the value of the target increase even
though the intrinsic value provided by the target doesn't?
The only thing that changes is the subjective value
of the target, the value ascribed to it by its suitors.
The answers seems to point in the direction of competition.
We live in a predatory universe--I first read about
this in Carlos Castañeda's The Teachings of Don Juan: A
Yaqui Way Of Knowledge
. What is meant by a
predatory universe is that competition between two
things, usually opposites, is the nature of all things.
When two suitors compete for the affection of one
target, what's at stake is not winning the target,
but the competition, the battle of forces (the two
suitors), over the final outcome of exerting superiority
over another.
Attraction is a sophisticated system in which value
is determined by the estimation of possible competition.
This is largely based on social conventions. For example,
someone beautiful is assumed to be sought after
even if one is not personally acquainted with the
other competitors. In American society, this social
value is largely based on a person's beauty and social
adeptness. We base a person's value-demand based
on how much we feel they are sought after. Since the
factors that guide the valuation of a person's social
value are largely dependent on society, than the only
thing that remains constant across different social
groups is the fact that we compete. Competition is
where the value lies. When we win the target's affection,
we effectively exert our superiority onto our former
opponents. It is the modern--covert(props to Rollo)--way
of dueling.
The spirit of the Don Juan lies in the realization that
the winner is not the suitor who competes for and "wins"
the target, but the target who the suitors compete for.
That is, the winner is the person who was the "prize" all
along. And herein we come back to the "being the prize"
philosophy, as Swinggcat says. It also ties into Pook's
"being a man" school of thought. A man knows that since
he's the one that can provide food and protection--Is this
still true in modern american society in which most women are
financially independent?--omen should compete for
him and not the other way around.

Thoughts? Comments?

I know that not much material is new, but it is, perhaps,
a new paraphrase of things.

The reason for the narrow column is that according to
Paul Graham, "text is most legible with no more than 70
characters per line." I happen to agree.
 
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e13c7r0nic said:
Thoughts? Comments?
How about paragraph breaks only for each new paragraph? Just a thought.

The post looks like really odd Haiku.
 

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I took out some of the double paragraph breaks. I kept
the narrower column because it makes it easier to
read. According to Pual Graham, "text is most
legible with no more than 70 characters per line."
 

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I agree with the OP. Like anything else in life, the more in demand an item is, the price tag goes up. This is the nature of humanity. Back in '99 with the internet boom, stocks would often double in one day of trading based on it's perceived worth ("interest level"). If you want your stock to go up in value, increase the demand. I think that is self explanantory but we sometimes need to be reminded of this. Good post.
 

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potato said:
Complete utter nonsense. Not once, ever, have I been attracted to anyone or any thing just because others were, nor has my attraction ever increased because of the interest of another.
Or at least not that you have realized. We have all gotten caught up in the competition dynamic at some point, but women are ESPECIALLY susceptible.

I can attribute the bulk of my success with women to this very dynamic.

Hell, one time I even inadvertently started a fire by telling a chick who I did like that another chick was interested in me. I told her to stick close to me because girl X likes me a little more than I like her.

From that point on it was an all out war between these two. The one I didn't like liked me more cause I turned her down, and the one I did like knew she had to be on her toes cause I could always go with the other one as a backup.

You know you're doing it right when women constantly make comments like "You have quite a fan club" or "Is that one of your girls?"
 

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Diversification - Plate Theory

MooseGod said:
And diversifying your portfolio is always a good idea. :D
You're absolutely right about that. I hadn't thought
about it in those terms. It not only spreads your risk,
but at the same raises one's own value because of the
increased demand.
 

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Pretty good analogy, e13c7r0nic.

You are aware ,though, that Castaneda's been debunked and all, right?

He made all that stuff up.

I'm not saying he doesn't have anything cool to SAY, but his "Don Juan" character (the mystic/shaman in the books) is almost certainly fictitious.

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Teachings Of Don Juan

aliasguy said:
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You are aware ,though, that Castaneda's been debunked and all, right?

He made all that stuff up.

I'm not saying he doesn't have anything cool to SAY, but his "Don Juan" character (the mystic/shaman in the books) is almost certainly fictitious.
To be honest, I was not aware that he had made
up the stuff. I don't ascribe to all of what he says
in Teachings of Don Juan, but when I read it I remember
reading the part about the predatory universe and
that stuck with me. I've mulled it over for a couple
of years and found it to be a pretty interesting line
of thought: predatory universe, same thing as ying
yang, same thing as paradox.

Good to know, though, that the story is more fiction
than fact. He's still got some good ideas, though.
 

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I agree this strongly applies to women, jealousy and competition. I think it's almost impossible for a man to be the prize for the very fact that women are in short supply/high demand.

I do think diversification is a better way of looking at plate theory.

Diversifying as most know lowers your risk but lowers your reward too.Each one has less value and les return.

I think when it comes to being a prize women are naturally and societally at a huge advantage. Women having financial independence made it totally biased in their favor and feminist knew this. It's very hard for a man to be the prize without relying on some clever tricks.
 

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this is why a guy should never marry a girl until they've been together for at least three years.....
depending on your age, and what is going on in your life, i might suggest twice that.
 
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