Advice to Young Men from an Old Man

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Advice to Young Men from an Old Man
1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.
2. Don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time
3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.
4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.
5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.
6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent’s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what bull**** they try to feed you.
7. Don’t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, *****ing, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you’ll see what I mean.
8. Don’t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don’t want to come off as cynical.
9. You’ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don’t owe the vast majority of people ****.
10. Don’t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement’s primary purpose is to suppress you.
11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.
12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.
13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.
14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “**** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.
15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ****ing somebody else.
16. Keep fit.
17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.
18. Don’t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don’t humiliate her. Don’t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don’t do it where you live. Don’t do it with people in your social circle. Don’t **** in your own back yard.
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.
20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ****ing someone else.
21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.
22. Have and nurture friendships with women.
23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You’re going to see some girl and feel like you’ll die if you don’t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It’s her loss.
24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “**** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word **** (except in the context of “Don’t send a **** shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.
25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you “the look.” Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time. Don’t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.
26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.
27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.
28. Don’t be a poser. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.
29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ****ed over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.
30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/279126743.html

Advice to Young Men from an Old Man
1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.
3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.
5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.
11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.
12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.
15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ****ing somebody else.
17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.
20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ****ing someone else.
21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.

24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “**** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word **** (except in the context of “Don’t send a **** shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.
29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ****ed over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.
30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.
I don't fully agree with everything he says (especially #17 - WTF???) - but there is some real gold in here. 20 & 21 should be taught in men's churches. And all the pro-man stuff and how he recognizes that men are getting the shaft and women a free ride these days...
 
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When the fvck did 29 become old???!!! :cuss:
 

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"Get into a fist fight even if you know you will lose it"
Thats f**king stupid, you never know you will lose.
If you have to get into a fist fight so fking belive in yourself!
 

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Wow! That was a great read.

Francisco - I think he's just reposting the article that was originally on craig's list - the poster is not the old dude, the guy who wrote it on craig's list is.
 

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That's a ****ing great post. And great advice.

For the guys that are freaking out at when he says "DON'T CHEAT", he's right, look it up.

Here's the deal: If you promise to be faithful to a woman, KEEP YOUR WORD.

That's just part of being a man: keeping your word, being trustworthy, being honest.

BUT. The caveat is: be VERY CAREFUL whom you promise to be faithful to.

Just because women **** around and "lie" about it and are incredibly immoral because of backwards rationalization and their emotional brain and their justifications, doesn't mean WE have to stoop to that level.

We are men, and men are different.

I have had more relationships than I can count and promised to be exclusively with I think 2 women....maybe 3. No, I think 2, definitely 2 for sure.

Make a similar ratio.

MOST women are not going to prove trustworthy and live up to THEIR word, so if you give her your trust and your word you are going to live to regret it.

A lot of guys think seduction and DJing and being a PUA is all about lying to everyone in order to sleep with a bazillion girls, and then CHEATING on those girls (the justification is "but they do it!") but that's not the case.

REAL men don't lie; they are skilled, and have the social skills to imply where they are in life without hurting a girls' feelings by saying something stupid like "I WOULD NEVER BE MONOGAMOUS WITH YOU". They are able to avoid committing themselves for no good reason and therefore, their REAL committment is not only 100% golden and trustworthy, it is 200% more valuable than your average run-of-the-mill guy's promise that he will be faithful.

PUAs aren't upposed to be liars....they are ARTISTS, and artists are some of the most honest people around. They tell the truth when many others can't or won't.
 

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The post is a mix of good tips with horrible tips. Sorry.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Mind_Body_Soul said:
Francisco - I think he's just reposting the article that was originally on craig's list - the poster is not the old dude, the guy who wrote it on craig's list is.
Oh....

Ok....

Alright then....

Thank you....

...now where did I leave my bowl of oatmeal....
 

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As said from the book "The Prince" and even from his own list, twice, pick and choose the advice that suit you best. As some of you already some advice is bad, well thats part of the 97%. Trash it and use the rest.

@wayword I think that means let their girl know that, when needed, the guy will have her back.
 

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TheHumanist said:
@wayword I think that means let their girl know that, when needed, the guy will have her back.
Yea, but even when she's wrong? That's enabling a bych, IMO. A lot of needless fights get started that way and I really don't think men need to get tooled around by stupid girls like that.
 

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That's some pretty good advice. :up::up: to the old man, whoever he is.
 

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Why get in a fist fight if you know your going to lose? Hell, why get into one at all!?
 

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Points 1 (Dont' antagonise) and point Point 4 (get in a fist fight) seem to be slightly contradictory. ;)

For Point 4 I think he meant "If you are forced into a potential fist fight, don't back down, even if you know you'll loose."

The other interesting vibe was the anti-authoritarian stance. This matches what I'm reading about 9/11 and the related politics.
 

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EXCELLENT ADVICE.....although, the getting into a fight if you're goin to lose anyway puzzles me a little anyway (is it for the experience or somethin else???)

nonetheless....GREAT ADVICE!! :up: :up:
 

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Yeah guys, don't be a Republican. They're clearly all crooks. Be a Democrat. :rolleyes: So much of this guy's stuff is bull****.
 

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for 17

this is for your wife/girlfriend (assuming she was good enough to make the cut). so shes proved that shes worthy, and will back you up also.
 
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