A good career with great rewards at the end?

[Thebestthereeveris]

Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

• Define great results?
• Your Interests?
• Your Skills?
• Your Education?
• Personal strengths/talents?
• Personal ethical limitations?
• Financial capital?

Besides, If you really, really can pour your heart soul 7 days a week, 14 hours a day for five years to anything just by deciding to, that is quite sensational talent in itself.

If that really is so, based on your pic, my recommendation is a job of gay escort:
14 hours times 7 days times 52 weeks times 80% utilization rate times 200$ per hour would net you 4 076 800 bucks.

Invest that and with 4% percent drawdown rate you have passive income of
163 072$ a year for the rest of your life. Great results for a five year stint.


Edit:
Of course I'm just frigging joking!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?

None. You'll be burnt out by the time you get 9 months in and your results will decline more and more as you go because you are mentally and physically exhausted.

This is not a sustainable nor healthy way to go about work, nor intelligent according to research done on it.

This isn't 1890 anymore. Your goal should be to get the most amount of work done in the least amount of time, maximizing efficiency, not the opposite way around, freeing you up for other things in life. Living your life to work is honestly a pretty crappy way to live. I averaged 65 hours a week for a year while I was in my early 20s and 20+ years later I think I must have been insane for doing it. That was 5 days a week.

Also seems pretty impossible since you are already working out 7 days a week foing full body workouts.

Apparently you have figured out how to create more hours in a day than any other human being in history. Perhaps you should market and sell your secret.

 

[jaygreenb]

• Define great results?
• Your Interests?
• Your Skills?
• Your Education?
• Personal strengths/talents?
• Personal ethical limitations?
• Financial capital?

Besides, If you really, really can pour your heart soul 7 days a week, 14 hours a day for five years to anything just by deciding to, that is quite sensational talent in itself.

If that really is so, based on your pic, my recommendation is a job of gay escort:
14 hours times 7 days times 52 weeks times 80% utilization rate times 200$ per hour would net you 4 076 800 bucks.

Invest that and with 4% percent drawdown rate you have passive income of
163 072$ a year for the rest of your life. Great results for a five year stint.


Edit:
Of course I'm just frigging joking!

Got to pay the cost to be the boss and do whatever it takes

 

[NoBiscuits]

None. You'll be burnt out by the time you get 9 months in and your results will decline more and more as you go because you are mentally and physically exhausted.

Mostly agree, but I'll add something.

I've fell into this trap myself too. In my early 20's, it led to my eventual major burnout that I've posted about before. Those who do this presume invincibility. It feels like it's working because targets get hit at first. But then the economy suffers, the industry gets globalized, the big sources of income fall apart, poor (or hostile) top down decisions are made, the industry's game changes, you get replaced with cheaper labor, the big guys buy out the companies you depend on, more people will jump in and saturdate the industry, etc.etc.

Because the Western economy has already been declining for decades, the rewards that have kept burnout at bay will diminish over time too.

A lot more factors outside of your control effect your success today than just 50 years ago. One closed-door board meeting in a glass skyscraper 300 miles away could make a deliberate decision to phase out your line of work or make it extremely difficult to find more of it. And you won't even know about it until 5+ years later. This strongly disincentives individual output in favor of team output, which is where the world economy is today and has been for almost a century - a managerial one. So a better question to ask is "What career opens the door for me to join a team of quality people?"

The time of infinite rewards for the lone alpha male individual has been steadily declining since the 1930's and what's left for anyone under age 35 today is crumbs. Red Pill mentality is somewhat stuck in the Rockeffler days, where a plucky farmer boy could become an industrial tycoon and shape the country. But Rockeffeler today would have been shut down by climate change regulation and Edison would have drained his finaces fighting patent lawsuits. Tesla's elephant demo would have gotten him banned from work by a board of directors.

So in addition to working smarter not harder, I would also add that you need to coordinate and cooperate with a group instead of just being a quality individual. If a career doesn't offer you a chance at finding a good team, don't bother with it.

Nothing I'm saying here is new or cutting edge.

As for a direct answer to OP, try law. I would say founding a legal firm is probably the best "here you go try this" suggestion I can think of.

 

[SW15]

what's left for anyone under age 35 today is crumbs.

Raise that age to 42/43 (1981 births, the beginning of the Millennial generation). Gen Z will also experience this effect of only getting crumbs.

Boomers still control most of the wealth in the USA.

In Q3 2023, 55+ individuals controlled 72.8% of wealth in USA. In Q3 1993, 55+ individuals controlled 56.2% of wealth. In Q3 2003, 55+ individuals controlled 58.6% of wealth. In Q3 2003, most Boomers were between 40-54 years old.

In Q3 2023, 55+ people were mainly Boomers, with the tail end being the oldest members of Gen X and 78+ year olds being a part of The Silent Generation.

Baby boomers are becoming wealthier, while younger generations lag behind, Fed report finds

The baby boomer generation owns 72% of America's wealth, Q3 data shows, mostly thanks to strong stock investment rewards and rising valuation in home ownership.

www.foxbusiness.com

The Fed - Distribution: Distribution of Household Wealth in the U.S. since 1989

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.

www.federalreserve.gov

Millennials have gotten crapped on in the modern economy. In the late 2000s/early 2010s, the earlier 1980s born Millennials were graduating from school during the worst recessionary period since The Great Depression.

The financial futures of most Millennials depend upon how much of an inheritance they will get from their Boomer parents since the data points show that the Boomers still control the wealth. .

 

[NoBiscuits]

You may be right in that it's age 42 and below. I picked age 35 because that's the age where still less than 50% who own any property. It just passed 51% in the last couple years.

Boomers mostly have wealth due to real estate and retirement funds (eg. hedge funds). The wealth that's in their 401k's is largely tied to the wealth of the fortune 500 companies. But still, that's mostly cash / capital. What the younger generations didn't get is infrastructure that allowed them to succeed and gain leadership. Look at any business book from the 80's and you'll see the advice of selling it off to a megacorp in exchange for cash and a beach house. That business could have been used by their kids and their friends to sustain themselves through the 2008 crisis, but all that's left of it is just liquid cash. The actual stuff the cash was tied to has been sold off.

Having wealth doesn't mean you control it. If you're not sitting on a board of directors and having meetings with influential institutions, you're likely not actually in any control of the wealth you have. You can't direct it at anything, only spend it on personal comforts. Younger people who are sitting in high-level positions got there through group interests. Look at the presidents of Ivy Leagues. They're just above average people with few impressive qualities, but they got there through a team. When they became in charge, they shared out resources to their teammates / group identities / political friends. This is actually how wealth and influence gets accumulated in the 21st century.

The reason I suggested founding a law firm is that being a lawyer is generally well paid, networking is easy, there's a healthy barrier to entry for it, and it's easy to organize since other lawyers are good at setting up institutions. It's doable. You can also scale it to have real leverage in how society gets directed. And I always encourage people here to aim higher than just "I got muh beach house, muh fancy car, and muh puss, so I win and don't have to do anything else."

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

I absolutely agree that pouring your heart to career means working smarter not harder:

Keep a limit on how much you spend rime working in the actual job.

But spend a lot of time to learn new things for the career, keep up to date with the latest trends.spend your own time and money to continuously upgrade your skillset:
Seminars, courses, hobby projects and networking with other professionals.

Once your skills exceed what your position needs, job-shop and monkey branch for better position.

I also agree that you should't plan to have till death do us part love story with your career. Understand that it's just your turn and plan accordingly. (Did anyone spot analogy here?)

For example I'm 100% certain that self thought Prompt Engineer is not going to stay as 300k/year job for too many years.

AI Prompt Engineers Earn $300k Salaries: Here's How To Learn The Skill For Free

The role of a prompt engineer will change as AI advances. Understanding the basics will ensure you keep up. Here are 6 courses to learn the skill for free.

www.forbes.com

So while money is flowing in, save and invest a big part of it and have a PLAN B, by updating skills and creating side hustles/businesses.

 

[NoBiscuits]

I think OP is looking for direct answers, not general advice.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?

Become an artist.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

I think OP is looking for direct answers, not general advice.

Yes exactly this

 

[All_Kindz_Of_Gainz]

Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?

IMO it should be something that people need, won't go away, you can develop your business and slowly phase out and taking only the managerial duties of running it.

I think OP is looking for direct answers, not general advice.

Well if you have the magic ball, please share it with everyone.

 

[NoBiscuits]

Well if you have the magic ball, please share it with everyone.

I did. I gave my suggestion of founding a legal firm and gave my reasoning why it's a good idea. I was the only one who directly answered OP's question.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I did. I gave my suggestion of founding a legal firm and gave my reasoning why it's a good idea. I was the only one who directly answered OP's question.

Nope.

Become an artist.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

IMO it should be something that people need, won't go away, you can develop your business and slowly phase out and taking only the managerial duties of running it.


Well if you have the magic ball, please share it with everyone.

I’m going all in on personal training and my body. It’s something I know more than 99% of people than and I’ve put my time in. And to me it will always be needed and not something ai can know

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

I was the only one who directly answered OP's question.

Nope

my recommendation is a job of gay escort

Also this would synergize well with OPs current plan.

 

[FlirtLife]

Whats a career i can pour my heart and soul into 7 days a week 14 hours a day that will yield me great returns in the end? Im willing to wait 5 years to see returns i am patient. Anyone know?

What were your grades like in school? What level of education are you bringing to this career search?

 

[Reincarnated]

Raise that age to 42/43 (1981 births, the beginning of the Millennial generation). Gen Z will also experience this effect of only getting crumbs.


The financial futures of most Millennials depend upon how much of an inheritance they will get from their Boomer parents since the data points show that the Boomers still control the wealth. .

Lot of good data in this post, but it think it's important to remember that each of us has complete control of putting ourselves in a position to not need to rely on inheritance to be as prosperous as we'd like to be, we can do it ourselves.

Let's be honest, Millennials and Gen-Z by and large don't have strong work ethics, and many don't "value" wealth as much as previous generations (although ironically are more materialistic). There will be plenty of opportunities for those of us with grit, discipline, and a willingness to put in the effort to build wealth organically.

Would it be nice to know that I can fall back on inheritance, or that inheritance will make hard work less important, hell yes, I'd love that. But my reality is that nobody is leaving me a damn thing that is going to change my life. You have to play the cards you're dealt, and if you're dealt a poor hand, you're the only one who can really go out and get yourself some better cards.

My parents will not leave much to me beyond some low-value hunting land in a rural area, but the intangibles they've instilled in me in terms of my value systems and morals are something that I truly believe money cannot provide

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Anyone know?

Sales, and sell anything that produces residual income through renewals, like insurance.

If you can sell well, which you'll be able to do after putting in the time you suggest, you'll make money anywhere.

 

[NoBiscuits]

Sales relies a lot on genetics. Charisma, looks, voice, height, etc. A cute blond girl can outsell you. It's also a very emotionally demanding job. You need to be able to turn emotions on, off, and adjust them to other people.

If you possess a few qualities, you can be great in sales. IMO, there are usually good rewards for putting in more work as far as the industry as a whole goes. It's a highly transferable skill. Other salesmen for different products or services may see you as a colleague if they're agnostic about what they sell.

But if you have attributes that don't work with the job, then it will be a struggle to hit quotas every time. If you're an introvert or have a soft heart (it does take a little psychopathy to be good), then that works against you. Sure, you might be able to compensate in some ways, but if rewards are competition based, then you might win or lose due to genetics alone.

You can train yourself for a niche though. For example, those with baby cheeks are seen as more trustworthy but less intelligent. They are probably good for a sale that has some kind of trial period and it's meant for the average person. You'll earn rewards by selling to many customers for small amounts. But if you're in technical sales and need to sell something like a CT scan machine, then having baby cheeks matters less than a good memory (as customers will want to know as much about the product as possible and missing one question might delay the sale). This type of sales work might have a quota of selling 1 or 2 units a year, but each sale could be in the six-seven figures range.

If you decide to try sales, give it three to five months depending on the price of the good or service. If you don't break an office record by then, then maybe it's not for you. But during those months, you really have to give it your all.