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A $10,000 question......

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Ok,

Let us talk money here:

John Doe (a DJ who is single, 21 and has a job) has just won $10,000 (tax free) on a Lotto ticket.....

He wants to invest it.

What should John do with his windfall?

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Originally posted by cave dweller
Ok,

Let us talk money here:

John Doe (a DJ who is single, 21 and has a job) has just won $10,000 (tax free) on a Lotto ticket.....

He wants to invest it.

What should John do with his windfall?

cave dweller
This is going to be fun. ;)
Looking at the forum we've practically turned the Miscellaneous section into Financial district.

Anyway, depends on John Doe. I'd say keep the money at an interest-earning bank.

Buy real estate no money down and use the $10,000 as reserve. Rent or flip, depending on Johnny's opinion.

He may not even need the $10,000 reserve.

When he invest in enough properties; about 2-3 properties that is self-sustaining, he can quit his job and go for a more ambitious project.

How about starting his own business? Or maybe get into a trade he has always wanted to get into?

You have to be more specific. Is he looking for long-term earnings or short?

What are his goals? What is his personality more oriented toward?
 

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Hell yes........

Hell yes..........

John Doe (ie: a newbee Donald Trump) jumps into the real estate game.....

Good game plan and good points.......

I love that one.......

You recommend that John (Donald) hangs onto his 10 grand and buy with no-money down)

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John.....

Real estate,

my 2 cents

He needs to shoot for a positive cash flow (on his property) and no fvcking alligators.

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with only 10 000 In my opinion Real estate is not a valid option, Just to pay the layer to do a serch on the property.....2 000, To fix the property up, you need at least 5 000 or it's not worth to by the property in the first place (unless you just want to rent it out) and then you got downpayment......

I'm puirty much in the same place as john doe (with little more cash to play with). over last two years I've made little over 6 000 in my investment account. That might not be much, but it's better then sitting in the bank.

Unfortionatly stock market has been getting a bad rap. The reason is; lot of uneducated people trying to "ROLL THE DICE"
 

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ok.........

007.....

You make a good point.....

Sometimes a property is so 'run down' it just ain't worth it.

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He could use it to start an ebay store for a very small amount of that money.

1) Open a checking account with a debit card that can be used as a credit card.

2) Set up a Pay Pal account with the checking account.

3) Find a good supplier who will ship products directly to the buyer.

4) Pick the items that sell fast and will make a profit.

5) List them on ebay.

6) Buyers use Pay Pal to pay you.

7) You use your debit card to pay the supplier and have them ship the item to the buyer.


This can make you a load of money easily and quickly IF you find a cheap supplier where you can buy items for less than the going retail. And you can do it all from the comfort of your keyboard.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
He could use it to start an ebay store for a very small amount of that money.

1) Open a checking account with a debit card that can be used as a credit card.

2) Set up a Pay Pal account with the checking account.

3) Find a good supplier who will ship products directly to the buyer.

4) Pick the items that sell fast and will make a profit.

5) List them on ebay.

6) Buyers use Pay Pal to pay you.

7) You use your debit card to pay the supplier and have them ship the item to the buyer.


This can make you a load of money easily and quickly IF you find a cheap supplier where you can buy items for less than the going retail. And you can do it all from the comfort of your keyboard.
I've done that before, not bad!

Another thing is this, I realized that eBay got too greedy so lately they've been raising the cost to list an auction.

It used to be so cheap to bold a title.

And another thing, some people make an easy cozy living off of eBay that IRS has decided that they may tax eBay incomes.
 

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How did John Doe win $10,000 tax free? The federal government dips its hand pretty heavily into any lottery winnings exceeding $5,000...
 

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Originally posted by spider_007
with only 10 000 In my opinion Real estate is not a valid option,

Noone said it was. :)

Just to pay the layer to do a serch on the property.....2 000, To fix the property up, you need at least 5 000 or it's not worth to by the property in the first place

Eh? If you have done your research, you can easily just give the lead to another investor who has the resource and time and you don't even have to hold the title.

(unless you just want to rent it out) and then you got downpayment......

No down, buy low, rent smart, sell high. Basic principles.
 

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Originally posted by diablo
How did John Doe win $10,000 tax free? The federal government dips its hand pretty heavily into any lottery winnings exceeding $5,000...
You presume it's an example.
 

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Damn, in Australia stamp duty costs more than $10,000.

John Doe should buy $10,000 worth of Pez. That's like 5000 packets.
 

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10 grand.......

dia,

Hey, I am just using the 10 grand as an example.....

ie:

It could have been a fvcking 13 grand total Lotto with the damnnnnnnnnn 10 grand after taxes.....

Don't drown in a fvcking glass of water here..

Question........Tell John Doe how to invest his $10,000 cash? (after taxes if you must)

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Re: Re: A $10,000 question......

Originally posted by sifer
Anyway, depends on John Doe. I'd say keep the money at an interest-earning bank.

Buy real estate no money down and use the $10,000 as reserve. Rent or flip, depending on Johnny's opinion.
Great example. Most people would suggest buying stocks or mutual funds. You would have to outdo the market by leaps and bounds to get the rate of return you would get buying real estate.

I agree with you except for the fact that he should keep the $10,000 in a bank account. ONLY if he had no other means to borrow extra money would I suggest keeping cash reserves laying around. The whole "safety net" issue is nothing but a false sense of security when you are leveraging your way to wealth.

I keep only enough money in my checking account to allow me to cover monthly expenses. The rest goes back into earning a high rate of return. When you understand how money works in relation to time you will see that borrowed money is just as green as cash. It's all about buying yourself time.
 

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Re: Re: Re: A $10,000 question......

Originally posted by STR8UP
Great example. Most people would suggest buying stocks or mutual funds. You would have to outdo the market by leaps and bounds to get the rate of return you would get buying real estate.

I agree with you except for the fact that he should keep the $10,000 in a bank account. ONLY if he had no other means to borrow extra money would I suggest keeping cash reserves laying around. The whole "safety net" issue is nothing but a false sense of security when you are leveraging your way to wealth.

I keep only enough money in my checking account to allow me to cover monthly expenses. The rest goes back into earning a high rate of return. When you understand how money works in relation to time you will see that borrowed money is just as green as cash. It's all about buying yourself time.
I totally agree, nothing is more true than being able to learn, be creative, and leverage your way to wealth and rich in the shortest amount of time.

It's called efficiency. And I am damn sure you are damn good at it as I am STR8UP.

And btw, I did say to keep it in a bank account. :p You must've missed it.
 

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I would take half of the $10,000 and invest in the stock market. I would buy a least five different stocks to make sure i am diversified. $1,000 each. I would pick: 1. an Oil stock 2. a brand name blue chip that sells at 2.5% yield or greater 3. a financial 4.a tech stock 5. one speculative stock from an undiscovered/undervalued company. Then I would keep doing my homework on all the stocks I own and what the fed is doing and make informed desicions on buy and selling based on that. if i do my homework i'll make money.
 

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Originally posted by longwood
...I would buy a least five different stocks to make sure i am diversified.... I would pick: 1. an Oil stock 2. a brand name blue chip... 3. a financial 4.a tech stock 5. one speculative stock from an undiscovered/undervalued company.
You need 72 stocks in your portfolio to eliminate non-systemic risk. Oil stock are already overvalued. In a rising interest rate environment, like we have now, financial stocks tend to suffer. A speculative/unknown stock is a great way to lose money.

Diversity can be gained by holding an index fund. Then you can start adding individual stocks if you so please. If you want growth stocks then consider a small-cap index. Want value: look at dividends. Want to speculate: consider a biotech index.

But unless you are going to really learn to dissect financial reports and learn how various industries play in the different stages of the economic cycle, you should stay away from individual stocks. But if you really want to spend the necessary time studying all of this, you should get a job in the finance industry and get paid for it.

My suggestion: find a closed-end fund that holds treasury bills and short it, or buy an in-the-money Januaury put.

Hell, if it's Lotto money why not gamble? It's only 10k.

I might take it to the poker table and see if I can go semi-pro.
 

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tell john doe to open a new casino and keep racking in the bucks
 
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