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10 Things you need to UNLEARN to be good with women

Hakuna

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1) Relationships are based on friendship: Sadly this has been misinterpreted to mean “Don’t be her boyfriend, be her girlfriend.” Despite what the sister-hood of traveling betas will tell you, relationships are based on the need for our race to propagate themselves via reproduction and nourishment. Be a boyfriend, not a friend. Women need friends to cry on, they need boyfriends to have sex with. Women need friends to feed their addiction to gossip and drama, they need boyfriends to give them convulsing orgasms.



2) It is bad to Like a Girl for her looks: This lone testament has single-handedly subjugated the sexuality of our entire generation. In high school, if you liked a girl only for her looks, you were a heartless savage who only cared about *****. Personally I remember a whole two year hiatus in my own social circle where all of my guy friends went through a severe ego-deflation because all the girls around them told them it was wrong to simply be “infatuated” with a girl. Sexuality was vilified by the feminine, as it always is.



3) Take Relationship Advice from women: Remember the last time you took relationship advice from a woman? Remember the last time you talked to your girlfriend’s best friend, sister, or cousin and asked them for help? Associate that feeling with utter agony and pain. I never understood why guys had a habit of telling a GIRL’S BEST FRIEND something private and then saying “DON’T TELL HER OK?”


4) Desperation is a sign of Love: My god, and we wonder why Oneitis has claimed more testicles than Cancer. While this might be some what… sort of true… the actual problem comes from an extension of this belief. The real problem is that men think Desperation is a sign of love, and that WOMAN ARE ATTRACTED TO LOVE. No. Woman are not attracted to love, they are attracted to confidence, good sex, and money among other things. But they are not attracted to love. They idolize it, they worship it like a religion, but it does NOT sexually turn them on.



5) You Must say Insecure things to build rapport: I remember once in high school I told a girl “you make me nervous.” She LJBFed me instantly. That same girl became my girlfriend 3 years later. How? Every time I got nervous I thought to myself, “**** it…just lie”



6) Most women have been scorned by jerks, so they will eventually see their fallacy and resort to the nice guy: No. In the defense of women however, this is not their fault. They simply aren’t attracted to Nice Guys. Rather than settling for one, they would rather scour the earth till judgment day looking for a Jerk who is at-least bearable.



7) Women like feminine Guys: I know some of you are wondering, “No way… there’s no fuking way a guy really thinks this.” Sadly, there are many guys that think this. They shop with their girlfriends, they talk about gossip and drama with their girlfriends, they watch chick flicks and gossip girl, in essence, they try and become a woman. This is another example of a guy failing horribly at the crimson arts because he tried to apply logic. Women do not like men who are feminine just because they themselves are feminine.



8 ) Women hate man-*****s: The only thing a girl thinks when she hears that you had sex with her best friend is that you are a pre-selected male that she can possibly mate with to. Women don’t hate man-*****s, they hate men who sleep around and brag about it. In fact, I hate this to. Guys, please, stop bragging about your Conquests. You are only feeding into the cultural stigma that prevents women from exploring all the aspects of their sexuality.



9) Sex is a Taboo Subject to bring up with women:
A. Sex is a better subject to bring up than basketball and Starcraft.
B. Subtly bringing up sex is possibly the best way to arouse a girl



10) Reading Online articles about girls is for losers: Ironically, I’ve noticed that most of the guys who say this are losers. Guys that I know who are apart of the PUA community have SO MUCH more game than the rest (besides natural Alphas who by a stroke of luck experienced success with women from an early age),
 

zekko

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I've got some time, so I'll go through these:
1) Relationships are based on friendship
Relationships can be based on friendship, in that relationships can start from friendships. They discourage that here, but I bet there's a lot of this going on in the real world.

2) It is bad to Like a Girl for her looks
Nothing wrong with being attracted to a girl for her looks. I would think it is bad to like a girl SOLELY for her looks though.

3) Take Relationship Advice from women
They say it's not good to take relationship advice from women, and that's probably true. The problem with this is sometimes a girl will give some good advice (maybe by accident) and it will immediately get dismissed because of the source.
Girls are usually good with telling you what clothes you look good in, what hairstyle, stuff like that.

4) Desperation is a sign of Love
Never heard that.

5) You Must say Insecure things to build rapport
Never heard that either. Actually, I did hear MeHow saying that you should throw some vulnerability in once in a while to build attraction.

There was this one girl who got a crush on me. She said the moment she realized it was when she heard me talking about the death of a favorite pet. She said before that she always thought I was strong and unemotional.
So if you show some vulnerability within an overall masculine frame I guess that can be attractive.

6) Most women have been scorned by jerks, so they will eventually see their fallacy and resort to the nice guy
Actually, I thought that the PUA community taught that this was true.
Problem is, by the time the girl realizes she should go for the nice guy her market value has gone down (she turns 30 or whatever).

I have yet to be convinced that women are attracted to jerks, real jerks. Girls date a variety of different sorts of guys, they move from one to the next. The difference with the jerk is he probably won't stay around long enough to get rejected by her, while the nice guy will.

I think it also depends on how you define jerk. The PUA community tends to define a jerk as "a confident, self willed, self assured man". That's nice, but that's not really a jerk, is it?

7) Women like feminine Guys
I used to hear this more back in the 70s. Feminists used to hold up Alan Alda as the perfect man (he was supposedly sensitive and pro-feminist).
Funny thing is that the character he played on MASH was a womanizer.

Anyway, I haven't heard this much in recent years (about feminine guys being attractive).

8 ) Women hate man-*****s
There is a type of woman that is attracted to manwh0res.
Overall, I don't think women like manwh0res. They want a guy who can get women, yeah. But a guy whose focus in life is on screwing as many women as he can? No, I haven't seen any evidence that they find that attractive.

9) Sex is a Taboo Subject to bring up with women
Never heard that before.

10) Reading Online articles about girls is for losers
You said:
"Guys that I know who are apart of the PUA community have SO MUCH more game than the rest".
This makes me curious. Isn't there a PUA community outside of the internet? Surely there must be.

Anyway, I don't think there's anything wrong with reading online articles, but the bottom line is you have to put stuff into action before it can work.
 

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OP I am with you on everything.

The liberal movement in this country is what perpetuates these retarded ways of thinking. I don't see real conservative men wearing scarves and old lady shoes lol

The "women like feminine men" meme is indeed a hangover from the 70s, the decade of the sensitive singer-songwriter. I have heard the Jimmy Page reference a billion times; "he was so soft and delicate, yet he had more women than Genghis Kahn." This is putting the cart before the horse, an errant conclusion based on a false presumption. Page didn't get women because he was a wimp; he got women because he was lead guitarist in a world-famous rock band. If Led Zep had never happened, would little Jimmy have done so well hanging out at the coffee shop? You decide.
 

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Julius Seizeher said:
Page didn't get women because he was a wimp; he got women because he was lead guitarist in a world-famous rock band
Oh, you're definitely right about Page. He was considered a pretty boy type though, girls like his "angelic face". And he had a quiet, mysterious vibe going. He probably would have gotten some play outside of Led Zep, but yeah, it wouldn't be the same.

I've read some about Zeppelin, and how their manager Peter Grant used to run their tours and operation like the Mafia or something - a lot of power plays and muscle (security). They were the first group to have their own jet. Girls had to have been impressed by that. Kind of like in Goodfellas where the guy always got escorted to a front row table at the Copa and top flight treatment.
 

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I will just comment on 1)... IN WHAT PLANET DO YOU GUYS LIVE IN? Really I´m agreeing with Zeko...Most relationships I know of, do begin with friendships...
 

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I didn't mean that relationships aren't / shouldn't be based on friendship. Rather that it has been perpetuated so much that relationships are based on friendships that guys will end up trying to act like a girl-friend, (be an emotional tampon, engage in gossip with her) in order to be a boyfriend.
 

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I thought this was a good post, And Zekko i got some time too and i don't completely agree with some things :)

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2) It is bad to Like a Girl for her looks
Nothing wrong with being attracted to a girl for her looks. I would think it is bad to like a girl SOLELY for her looks though.
Like this I don't see the big deal, If like you like a girl solely for her looks just be straight up and honest with her and you'll probably have a f**k buddy your going to enjoy.

There is a type of woman that is attracted to manwh0res.
Overall, I don't think women like manwh0res. They want a guy who can get women, yeah. But a guy whose focus in life is on screwing as many women as he can? No, I haven't seen any evidence that they find that attractive.
I agree with you on a type of woman attracted to man wh0res, but i don't agree with the last part, as long as the guy isn't a huge *******. My one friend got his girlfriend from his reputation he gained by getting with 3 of her good friends. She isn't the "type" either. ... Its like woman will think they can change you, and if it just means being exclusive, That's a pretty good deal if those were your plans with them already.

Just me 2 cents
 

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Bodhi said:
If like you like a girl solely for her looks just be straight up and honest with her and you'll probably have a f**k buddy your going to enjoy.
Obviously you will want the girl to be attractive. That takes care of the "f**k" part. But if you can't stand her personality she isn't going to be much of a "buddy", is she?

Bodhi said:
I agree with you on a type of woman attracted to man wh0res, but i don't agree with the last part, as long as the guy isn't a huge *******.
Here's how I see it. If a guy is a "manwh0re", to me by definition that means he is a huge *******. And I don't think females find that attractive.
 

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I think there's a difference between being a manwh0re (bad) and being considered a player (good). At least in my experience, a manwh0re is someone who is associated with someone desperate enough to be fvcking anything that moves, the word "player" has connotations to someone who has dated/been with higher class women that girls consider high value. Girls want to try and change a player while they want to avoid a manwh0re.

Honestly if any girl tries to give you **** for your past, just retort "I'm not a player, I'm a man."
 
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