Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Your Pinnacle of Sex, Love and Happiness.

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Why is it that so many men, even those who are great looking, have so much trouble with women? They do everything by the book.... approach the way they're supposed to approach, say every line exactly the way they're told by all the "gurus", yet somehow remain unsuccessful. Yet others, seemingly “less qualified,” seem to effortlessly enjoy the fruits of life without even a hint of sexual frustration. I have made this transition. People read my posts and wonder how I can possibly approach women during the day in a public atmosphere and ALWAYS end up bringing one home. Not only that, but the women are wonderful… beautiful and intelligent and sweet. It just can’t be true, can it?

I learned a very important lesson a couple years ago that brought sanity back into my life when I thought I had none left. I had a conversation with one of my oldest and best friends, John. You see, John is a person that I always looked up to, particularly because everyone loves him. He has many friends, yet everyone thinks of him as their best friend. As long as I’ve known him, the women just seemed to adore him. At this point I had figured out how to get sex (quite unfulfilling sex at that), but John got so much more than sex. He didn’t just fuck women, he brought joy into their lives, and into his own. This was the man I wanted to be.

I was so unhappy, despite the fact I was getting what I had always thought I wanted, that one day I finally burst out at him in frustration, “Why does everything come to you so easily? What do you have that I don’t?”

He looked at me and in a completely serious tone he asked me, “Do you know why I love you?”

“Uhh… no?”

“I love you…… because you love me. Does that make sense?”

“So if I didn’t love you, then you wouldn’t love me?”

He laughed. “Nah, I’d still love you.

And that’s when it finally hit me. This man loves everyone, UNCONDITIONALLY. There is no requirement on your part for him to love you. There are no negotiations or obligations. You have no say in the matter. He loves you, and by nature, you cannot help but love him back.

This man has no game, and he doesn’t need any. I used to watch in amazement as he would straight up tell girls that they’re “fucking beautiful,” and they would completely melt.

This is what being direct- or genuine- is all about. It’s about unconditional love, acceptance, and a complete lack of judgment for all people. Why can I be so unrealistically successful with the ladies? Because I have the energy and passion for life that they DREAM about.

I’ve unlocked my friend’s secret. I now know that I can touch every girl’s heart and leave her thinking about me long after we part ways. I no longer ask myself “how can I get this girl to sleep with me?” Instead I think “I can’t wait to find out what she’s like,” because I absolutely adore her, and she has no choice but to love me in return. Our sex will be just as joyful and enlightening as our first encounter, and she can’t wait for it.

I once said that women are like Skittles, each with their own unique flavor. However, you can’t start trying all the Skittles in the world until you start giving out some of your own.

You must open yourself up to the world, and truly love and embrace everything in it! You cannot go about life as if it owes you something, because you will never receive more than you are willing to give!

Most of the pick-up artists you read about are nothing but negotiators. They do everything in their power to protect their own hearts, all while convincing the women to expose theirs.

Not only is that completely unfulfilling on the long term, but it’s much more difficult and unreasonable than simply being a GENUINE, COMPASIONATE person. I don’t hide anything from the women I talk to. I don’t hide my attraction, and I sure as hell don’t hold back in telling her how attractive she is. Sound like a bad idea? There’s a huge difference between supplicating (telling her what you think she wants to hear) and verbalizing your true feelings with genuine excitement.

Just a few days ago I saw this gorgeous girl at the laundry mat. She was a super fit blonde wearing tennis shoes, running shorts, and a cotton white t-shirt. She had her hair pulled up on her head (I fucking love that). I just looked at her and said, “Wow… you are so pretty! Do you wanna go out on a date?”

She was absolutely BEAMING. I didn’t see her stop smiling for 30 minutes. We ended up going out later that same evening, and then back to her place to spend the night.

It really is that simple. There is no “game.” There are no gimmicks.

If you want to keep wasting your time in clubs and bars chasing a drunk and boring fuck, then ignore this thread, and continue your practice of giving nothing and receiving nothing in return.

But those of us who truly get it… we don’t chase anything. We take a bite out of every ripe apple we see and savor its unique taste. We share ourselves and our love with the world, and in return the world shares its love with us.

Best wishes to sosuave,

-dbot
 
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Damn man, you get deeper with each post. You leaving or something?
 

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How can you bring yourself to love everybody unconditionally? I am not trying to call you out because I know what you say is true. To deny it is stupid, but my question is, how can you be empathetic to someone who is not empathetic to you? How can you be interested in everybody whenever most people's only interests are what kanye said last night?

I have had great success with women, hell, people in general whenever I force myself to be interested in what they have to say, but in all honesty, I really do not care. I guess its because I know because deep down they do not care about me or what I have to say. Other times its because what they're saying is so idiotic that I feel like I'll go insane if I listen to them for one second longer.

Great post man, but please, tell me more about how you developed the ability to love everyone unconditionally.
 

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It's hard to let go of 'judgements' and such because principles and being able to 'cut people out of your life who don't respect you or meet your standards of decency' is pretty important to me.
As a loser niceguy years ago, i accepted everyone into my life because i percieved everyone as being better for me.

Clearly the difference HERE is that you're allowing everyone into your life for good reasons, because you're above all the BS and you (hopefully) elevate everyone else's behaviour to rise above lame social norms.
No longer will people disrespect you and you'd go through the typical "who is more alpha than who?" pyramid bull. Now it's just "don't mess with the happy zen dude cause everyone's on his side."
 

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strong truth in this thread. sometimes our minds and hearts can be shrouded in the darkness of the BS we bring unto it, words like these are a shining reminder of how we should be and what we can do to better ourselves, our lives and those around us who we come into contact with everyday of our existance.

bra-vo...bra-vo.
 

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What do you about those that disrespect you, do lame crap, and so forth?
 

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I agree that dbot gets deeper on every post he writes. Although I didnt think his post about think with your **** was particularly deep! I cannot tell you why/ how HE manages to love everyone unconditionally, but I can tell you why I try to love everyone unconditionally.

It is based on the idea/ philosophy that between us, we are all part of ONE.
Yes, in this life, we have been incarnated as seperate beings, but, beyond the 3rd dimension (this planet) we are all segments of ONE. There is no other word I can use to describe it. I also believe that we have been sent here separately to work and improve on individual aspects of our one. All of us have been sent here with characteristics to be improved. These can include selfishness, greed, anger, self esteem problems etc etc, that when tackled, allow our ONE to grow stronger.
When you think about it, what's the thing you couldn't live without? That matters most to you? The answer is (or should be) family and friends, so basically, LOVE. That is what it all comes down to. The most mportant thing in the world to everyone (even misguided people like the taliban) is LOVE.
So when talking about loving everyone unconditionally, you can do this because you realise that other people are all part of this spiritual oneness, where all of us are here in this life to improve ourselves, to get rid of our negative traits, in the name of LOVE and our oneness.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
What do you about those that disrespect you, do lame crap, and so forth?
If someone disrespects me, I'll immediately forgive him and still love him, but I'll also call that fucking poser out! Look guys, I'm not telling you to turn into a bunch of pussies. I'm telling you to have a little bit of HEART.

Stud:

I'm going to be honest with you. Women spew all kinds of nonsensical b.s. that I can't fucking stand. I make the CHOICE to forgive them and love them anyway. It's not a special ability but a conscious decision. You don't have to like it, but you should accept the fact that most if not all women are fucked in the head, emotionally sensitive, and enjoy gossip and stupid girlie shit that pisses us off, but that's what makes them women and it's part of why we love them.

People who are fake or materialistic or self-absorbed are simply hiding behind that identity to cover up their emotional baggage. As soon as you learn to see past it you will begin to truly adore everyone you interact with. Trust me, the wall crumbles as soon as they begin to open up to you.

how can you be empathetic to someone who is not empathetic to you?
You choose to! Think about what you're doing every time you meet a woman. You're NEGOTIATING. You talk to her, get to know her, agree to a date, maybe agree to a second date, etc. You're basically agreeing to open your hearts up to each other, bit by bit. "I'll give you a little love if you give me a little love." It's like you're doing business with each other.

Fuck that.

My love is not scarce. I don't need to horde it. Everyone get's a free taste of my love and they all come back for more. This is how life was meant to be, so stop closing yourself off and start enjoying the beautiful presence of others.
 

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dbot said:
If someone disrespects me, I'll immediately forgive him and still love him, but I'll also call that fucking poser out! Look guys, I'm not telling you to turn into a bunch of pussies. I'm telling you to have a little bit of HEART.

Stud:

I'm going to be honest with you. Women spew all kinds of nonsensical b.s. that I can't fucking stand. I make the CHOICE to forgive them and love them anyway. It's not a special ability but a conscious decision. You don't have to like it, but you should accept the fact that most if not all women are fucked in the head, emotionally sensitive, and enjoy gossip and stupid girlie shit that pisses us off, but that's what makes them women and it's part of why we love them.

People who are fake or materialistic or self-absorbed are simply hiding behind that identity to cover up their emotional baggage. As soon as you learn to see past it you will begin to truly adore everyone you interact with. Trust me, the wall crumbles as soon as they begin to open up to you.



You choose to! Think about what you're doing every time you meet a woman. You're NEGOTIATING. You talk to her, get to know her, agree to a date, maybe agree to a second date, etc. You're basically agreeing to open your hearts up to each other, bit by bit. "I'll give you a little love if you give me a little love." It's like you're doing business with each other.

Fuck that.

My love is not scarce. I don't need to horde it. Everyone get's a free taste of my love and they all come back for more. This is how life was meant to be, so stop closing yourself off and start enjoying the beautiful presence of others.
THERE we go. You should've included this bit into the initial post to cover all your bases.
Excellent.
 

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Don't reeeeeally believe you mate, cos I would consider myself ABOVE the level that you claim to be at. Read and understand Eckhart Tolle's 'The Power of Now' and you'll know what I mean. Women don't just **** certain blokes because they 'love' them unconditionally. Simple as.

You write eloquently and I'm sure you've enjoyed some success, but you're exaggerating a hell of a lot and you know it - there are no magic bullets in seduction.

Guys, I would take this thread with a pinch of salt.
 

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Thanks for the tip, L777! I've actually read The Power of Now, but I still don't see how that pertains to your comment, or even what the purpose of your comment was.

You say that "women don't just fuck certain blokes because they 'love' them unconditionally." Do you know this from experience? Have you ever loved a stranger unconditionally? Those of us who have (where are you Johnny Soporno) would consider your statement a bit naive.

You see, the energy you give off is equal to the energy you receive. Read Lynn Grabhorn's 'Excuse Me, Your Life Is Waiting' and you'll know what I'm talking about. The unconditional love is the only reason why women I barely know will let me freely explore their bodies without the slightest hint of uneasiness or guilt. They don't feel 'slutty' or 'used' because I love everything about them. I'm sorry but this goes way deeper than just sex. They are literally addicted to the energy that I feed them, and that unconditional love and acceptance is what allows them to embrace it without any inhibition.
 

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What I get from this thread is "stop being egotistical and just be happy."

Meaning stop trying to act like top-sh!t and too good for people you've just met, or playing that tug-rope "who is better than who" underlying game in most all social interactions.
 

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You need to write an ebook man. I have been thinking the same thing for a while, but how do you make the effort to like people even when you know that most people deep down are selfish, rude, etc.... especially here in LA, people are so fake as everyone likes to say.
 

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dbot said:
Thanks for the tip, L777! I've actually read The Power of Now, but I still don't see how that pertains to your comment, or even what the purpose of your comment was.

You say that "women don't just fuck certain blokes because they 'love' them unconditionally." Do you know this from experience? Have you ever loved a stranger unconditionally? Those of us who have (where are you Johnny Soporno) would consider your statement a bit naive.

You see, the energy you give off is equal to the energy you receive. Read Lynn Grabhorn's 'Excuse Me, Your Life Is Waiting' and you'll know what I'm talking about. The unconditional love is the only reason why women I barely know will let me freely explore their bodies without the slightest hint of uneasiness or guilt. They don't feel 'slutty' or 'used' because I love everything about them. I'm sorry but this goes way deeper than just sex. They are literally addicted to the energy that I feed them, and that unconditional love and acceptance is what allows them to embrace it without any inhibition.
Yea that book's just a gateway really. Like I said I read that several years ago and have been on that path ever since - please don't patronise me by suggesting that I'm in any way naive - because I am far from it in terms of both seduction and spirituality...and I know Johnny Soporno's work very well actually. But you claiming to be at some sort of higher level in life or something because you have found love for all people may work on the more susceptible in here - but that ain't me, I would consider myself on the way to true enlightenment, and it's amazing, but it won't actually get you laid - like I said, there's no magic bullets in seduction.

And I get the whole energy thing - and it's a powerful tool, but mostly metaphorical, you can give off whatever 'energy' you want, but at the end of the day, it's the woman who decides whether she will sleep with you or not, however great your internal state - you still need game, again, there are no magic bullets in seduction. Who are these women who you "barely know" that "will let me freely explore their bodies without the slightest hint of uneasiness or guilt." Care to give some examples? We all love women brah, most naturals are the kind of ppl who have love for everyone around them, but you're painting the picture of some utopia where women just flock to your 'energy', which simply is not true, whatsoever.

I think you've probably recently come across the whole spirituality thing, and been inspired by how it really can change your life. The fact is though, whilst this will improve your 'inner game' no end, it IS NOT a magic bullet, and women WILL NOT be drawn to you like a magnet. Your examples are non-existent and the language you use is vague....wouldn't surprise me if you're thinking of selling something in the very near future, as your posts reek of self promotion, whilst being painfully vague.

To everyone reading this thread: take dbot's advice with a large pich of salt. Learning to love everyone and project positive 'energy' are very powerful tools, and it is really the way you should live your life. However, if you're thinking that you can just 'learn this' or even truly become like this and then women are going to flock to you, then you're sadly mistaken, it's not going to happen. Read the book I suggested in my first post (The Power of Now) if you're interested, and then the subsequent readings (including dbot's suggestion, which I don't particularly like) for your your own happiness and inner peace or whatever you want to call it, but it's not a seduction technique, and as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the results bdot suggests are not really realistic. If he tries to sell you anything in the future, think very carefully before you part with your money.
 

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Drewskie said:
You need to write an ebook man. I have been thinking the same thing for a while, but how do you make the effort to like people even when you know that most people deep down are selfish, rude, etc.... especially here in LA, people are so fake as everyone likes to say.

Oh my God yes they are. I wish everyone in LA didn't act so fake all the time. This town needs to learn to let its' guard down every now and then.
 

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For someone as spiritually enlightened as yourself, you seem to be making a lot of hasty, negative judgments ;)

You say there's no magic bullet in seduction? Of course there isn't. There doesn't need to be. Pickup is a joke. People have been fucking for thousands of years before anyone ever heard of "game." It's the people who try to make seduction sound complicated who are the ones aiming to sell you something, not the people who are giving the simple answers away for free.

L777, don't be a doubter. Don't be another one of those people quick to point out that something is not possible or highly unrealistic. It sounds like a broken record to me. My parents said the same thing when I first started my own business. They told me I was too young and too inexperienced, and I should just get a job and save money. Now my business is doing very well... well enough that I don't need to sell freely available information to my friends at sosuave. My parents had good intentions, but had I listened to their advice and just gotten a job, I'd still be trading my time for money down at the rat races.

You have good intentions too, L777. But it's your doubt that kills the hope and inspiration of people who really need this information. If my results are not typical, then it's because 95% of the people who see this thread will not even try it. It's one thing to be skeptical. But nobody will ever know if it works until they actually try it. L777, the entire point I'm trying to make is that you will be a hell of a lot more successful if you love women rather than if you treat them like an obstacle to conquer.

This philosophy definitely gets me laid. It also makes me happy. If you have something that works better for you, then by all means quit hoggin' it ;)
 

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dbot said:
For someone as spiritually enlightened as yourself, you seem to be making a lot of hasty, negative judgments ;)

You say there's no magic bullet in seduction? Of course there isn't. There doesn't need to be. Pickup is a joke. People have been fucking for thousands of years before anyone ever heard of "game." It's the people who try to make seduction sound complicated who are the ones aiming to sell you something, not the people who are giving the simple answers away for free.

L777, don't be a doubter. Don't be another one of those people quick to point out that something is not possible or highly unrealistic. It sounds like a broken record to me. My parents said the same thing when I first started my own business. They told me I was too young and too inexperienced, and I should just get a job and save money. Now my business is doing very well... well enough that I don't need to sell freely available information to my friends at sosuave. My parents had good intentions, but had I listened to their advice and just gotten a job, I'd still be trading my time for money down at the rat races.

You have good intentions too, L777. But it's your doubt that kills the hope and inspiration of people who really need this information. If my results are not typical, then it's because 95% of the people who see this thread will not even try it. It's one thing to be skeptical. But nobody will ever know if it works until they actually try it. L777, the entire point I'm trying to make is that you will be a hell of a lot more successful if you love women rather than if you treat them like an obstacle to conquer.

This philosophy definitely gets me laid. It also makes me happy. If you have something that works better for you, then by all means quit hoggin' it ;)
No response to this really. You're a fraud. If you want to get laid a lit, you elarn seduction, if you want to be enlightened and at peace, go down that path. The two don't really have anything to do with each other tbh with you mate.

It's just unfortunate for you that I've been on the same path for some years now, and I can tell you that your pick up ability stil needs to be good to get you laid; maybe you've met a couple of nice girls, but I'm talking about consistenetly brining different girls home....now matter how much you love the world, this will not just 'happen'. You are a fraud - when is your ebook out?
 
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