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Plate 2 - what the absolute fvck

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Get this.

Plate 2, a plate I have fvcked, spent this entire week texting me following 1st fvck.

To the point if I didn't respond in like 2 hours, I'd get multiple texts. She was worshipping the ground I walk on. I was sending 1 liners and would get 5 pages in response.
Now, things are moving well with plate 1, which actually makes plate 2 more inportAnt.

So, after like a whole week of incessant text contact, she cancels date, and says she's gonna be busy 3 weeks. 3 weeks wtf? Said she has legitimate work issues (has a full on job )

I don't get how u can be so into someone yet just give that bombshell.

Women are weird. Guys, can u imagine blowing up a girls phone every day then telling her you can't see her for ages ?

I'm sensing other guy or **** test. I didn't respond for 4 hours then just sent something like. "Cool , whatever, speak to you again"

I like this girl, I've shown little interest as plate 1 is doing fine, but this plate could easily work out, she's only fractionally behind plate 1, is younger and hotter.

I'm literally brain fried by this. How can you dote on someone (5 texts a day) then break off?

There's a remote possibility that she does actually have work issues (3 weeks. Bs). Bigger chance that another guy is in town , small chance this is a sh 1t test.

Maddening . I cannot understand women
 

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There could be a couple of things going on here. With such a large fluctuation, she could have BPD, another man in the picture, or she could just be frustrated with you.

I'm sensing other guy or **** test. I didn't respond for 4 hours then just sent something like. "Cool , whatever, speak to you again"
She's going to easily read your emotions in that last message. When I'm frustrated with a woman, I'll send something completely unexpected like "Okay, make sure you get rich!" When you send the message that you don't really give a fvck, it messes up their circuits. In other words, you pass the 5hit test.

If this was a 5hit test, you likely failed it.
 

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Tricky. I considered sending nothing but thought that would send signals I am well upset. (I am)

My actual message was more lighthearted and off hand . I can't see how you fail a **** test by sending something non committal like that?

Wtf are you supposed to send ? I thought I was acing it by being totally nonchalant ?
 

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Whatever isn't what people who are indifferent say.

You played it too mean- you've likely killed the attraction.

The key to game and play theory is there must be times when you show them attention and affection- you didn't.

Your oneitis with plate 1 has ruined your options- one reason you shouldn't be exclusive
 

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In other words, she went No Contact on you.

So ask yourself, when do we go No Contact on them? What moves us to apply this tactic and what goal do we wish to achieve by applying this tactic?
 

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I believe this is a classic case of woman post 1st fvck trying to figure out - "what are we?" - "where do I stand?"

I agree, that's it's hard to tell without more details: how did you meet, what happened leading up to you fvcking her, how long did it take, did you get "to know her" before hand, etc.

Giving you a response that's anti-NAWALT: She's a woman. Therefore she will text as long as you will text her, or she gets bored. She texted you...over and over and over... you responded in kind. So, the spark, the drama, the novelty, the mystery.....disappeared. She lost interest. That's it, plain and simple. Happens all the time. Nothing really to figure out. You were supplicating-pandering to her - by constantly responding to her texts - like every other guy :down:

I also agree that this would fall under the category of a **** test, which you obviously failed. Live and learn :up:
 

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Put another way, do you want to be involved with a woman who would pull this when things seem ok? No, so move on.
 

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So the advice I receive from above is I didn't pay enough attention and I gave her too much attention
Just to clarify, I haven't been sat. There texting her all day. FYI I usually end up replying in the eve or next day. She's actually commented on how I never get back to her Etc! I can't see how I could play text game more cool. I have been basically only texting back when there is a question, short of completely blanking her and ignoring her texts I can't play it more cooly. If I did that it's even worse, as it reeks if gamesmanship.

This is the weird thing, since we fvcked she has been texting ALL the time, and I've if anything got less responsive. May have overdone being distant but distant and aloof is my new strategy which has been on the whole, successfull at getting into panties.

She's still texting me today following flake, which puts me in a bad position. She still wants contact but has flaked and let me down and said I can't date her for 3 weeks!

It's either she is keeping me as backup while she dates another guy (most likely)

It's difficult because if I keep in contact with her now I become a beta orbiter.

Or

She genuinely is very busy (not plausible, were all busy right? But saying that she lives 2 hours away, so it's not like we can pop over, but if she has true ioi she'd find a way.

Saying that she does have a VERY busy work life. But 3 weeks in between dates wtf?

Or

Sh1t test. To be fair she has been the one chasing so far, she may want to test the power and see if I can handle her.

Annoying, I like this girl. Wanted to keep her around
 

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don't sweat it

Fruitbat said:
Annoying, I like this girl. Wanted to keep her around
This situation would bug me out a bit. You decide if it's worth the stress, and/or if she's worth your time. Best of luck brotha, there's many more out there!
 

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It's okay to ignore texts.

If she gets her panties in a bunch (through another text), ignore again. If you have something to say - say it, if not - don't. Sometimes when I get a text from a girl, I won't even read it until I'm ready to - when I finish whatever I'm currently doing and have some free time.

Text if you want to - but do it when you're ready to. You set the tone. In essence, she should be snap responding to your texts while you respond to hers when you're good and ready.

3 weeks is the kicker here. If she's going to be "gone" for three weeks, then, as a high value man, you should be busy with other things - not waiting around to hear from her. And one of those ways of staying busy is by spinning plates :up:
 

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Same here bro. Work comes first, but, for example , plate 1 just txt me, I am sat in bed reading, so I message her back. Other times it could be 1,2 or 48 hrs, I'm not playing games like a b1tch, but to be fair occasionally I ignore them for a bit - I got a top 10% income, boy am I busy but sending a 20 sec text, you ALWAYS have the time being honest, but women have this crazy mental thing where if you like them they lose interest so you can't be yourself 100%
 

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Ok so dudes: she has said 3 weeks as per op.

She is texting me every day, I am just sending a few words here and there just to not be rude.

Ok, now 3 weeks is a long time. Questions:

Am I just being pulled into orbit - will I text her now and then , only to have her flake on actual meets?

Does the alpha:

1. Ditch. She cancelled 1 day before a pre arranged date, despite her assurances this is due to work and family (there is evidence to support, she has a lot going on). I don't want this, it took months to get to this point from OLD.

2. Keep a few texts now and then- keep a few words don't go nc but don't invsest much time

3. Assume she is doing a commitment sh1t test to speak more ? Feels wrong

4. This is the trickey one. She's flaked on me badly. I have even made arrangements. Is it beta to justs act as if it never happened? Internet advice says no emotion or upset is right....but if your an alpha, surely you keep the b1tch in Line. In pua land the answer is to say I don't give an f. But if a woman disrespects you, surely it's beta to say, I don't Care.

This messes my head up. How can you dominate a woman whilst being totaly uncaring and nonchalant when they cross the line. My nAtural reaction was to give her a reprimand, but pua wisdom is to not do this as it reeks of n other options and needyness.
 

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You labeled her a plate but your reaction to her behavior screams oneitis. If she's the best/only option you have you're going to be fighting an uphill battle trying to pretend you're unaffected.

The best move forward is to go after other chicks and keep her on the back burner until you get yourself together. She's given you plenty of time to think it over and make your play.

You may have over-gamed her by seeming more aloof than you actually were and she's pulling back to see if you'll chase.

I think she's either saving face or found someone else.
 

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Fruitbat said:
Ok so dudes: she has said 3 weeks as per op.

She is texting me every day, I am just sending a few words here and there just to not be rude.

Ok, now 3 weeks is a long time. Questions:

Am I just being pulled into orbit - will I text her now and then , only to have her flake on actual meets?

Does the alpha:

1. Ditch. She cancelled 1 day before a pre arranged date, despite her assurances this is due to work and family (there is evidence to support, she has a lot going on). I don't want this, it took months to get to this point from OLD.

2. Keep a few texts now and then- keep a few words don't go nc but don't invsest much time

3. Assume she is doing a commitment sh1t test to speak more ? Feels wrong

4. This is the trickey one. She's flaked on me badly. I have even made arrangements. Is it beta to justs act as if it never happened? Internet advice says no emotion or upset is right....but if your an alpha, surely you keep the b1tch in Line. In pua land the answer is to say I don't give an f. But if a woman disrespects you, surely it's beta to say, I don't Care.

This messes my head up. How can you dominate a woman whilst being totaly uncaring and nonchalant when they cross the line. My nAtural reaction was to give her a reprimand, but pua wisdom is to not do this as it reeks of n other options and needyness.
Bro, a PLATE has confused you this much and made your head spin in circles without even trying? What would you do if she WAS trying, she would destroy you.

If she says "I can't see you for 3 weeks" but is still texting you everyday, she is seeing how busy you are/if you are sleeping with another girl. You can't give her time and attention without getting SEX OR MONEY from her. Usually guys want sex, but some will opt for the cash. :crackup:

Anyway, its obvious you like this girl so you just say "lets get together Saturday." If she balks, no counter, mixed messages, MOVE ON until she contacts you. Not brain surgery. :woo:
 

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Guys. Would love to just say fvck it but it took MONTHS to get 2 plates that are fvcking me and a half plate who won't yet.

In truth I have invested in these 2 women. The sex has been good. I was married a long time. I'm in truth, desparAte to get one of the 2 plates as a gf. I miss reg sex, escorts are just not the same as a real woman!

I guess, if you can't attract scores of Ass, then I just got to pretend I do. In reLity, I prob like most guys on here.....how do you get to this forum without having probs. a true legend would never h
Get here, the odd hobbyist perhaps.
 

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Fruitbat said:
I'm in truth, desparAte to get one of the 2 plates as a gf.
Ok you need to stop calling them plates then. You're trying to get into a relationship with one.
 

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You: "Talk to you in three weeks."

Stop responding.

Don't think about her for three weeks.

Go have fun.
 

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Yewki said:
Ok you need to stop calling them plates then. You're trying to get into a relationship with one.
Plate is not appropriate if you are spinning a few to get a gf?

What is the correct term?
 

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Fruitbat said:
Plate is not appropriate if you are spinning a few to get a gf?

What is the correct term?
Plate spinning is designed to keep you level headed. The aim is to have your sexual needs met by multiple women so you aren't as affected by losing one.

If one starts to act up and/or become difficult you have back up. Women are expert plate spinners, especially since men pretty much spin themselves even when they aren't getting anything out of it.
 

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Fruitbat said:
Plate is not appropriate if you are spinning a few to get a gf?

What is the correct term?
You want to be in a relationship with either of them so if anything you're their plate. Since there's two, I guess the best term is "twoitis"? It's a step up from oneitis :D
 
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