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So I read her youtube browsing history

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Banged this girl from work Monday night who's been flirting with me for a couple of months. She's hot, but I wasn't sure I wanted to go there with her because we work together; but hell - the hormones won.

Yesterday I stopped over her house after work and she went and took a shower and gave me her iPad. I went on youtube and she was logged in under herself.

I didn't really have anything I wanted to look at on there. So, I go into her history/recently watched videos (expecting to see makeup tutorials) and what do I see? Stuff like:

"How to kiss a guy you've never kissed for the first time."
"How to kiss a guy to make him fall in love."
"First time kissing tips"
"How to be his best kiss ever"
ETC
ETC
ETC

Like she probably watched a hour worth of videos like this a few hours before she came over my house on Monday.


I suddenly don't really feel good about this.

Our conversations have been 90% sexual banter. And she's told me she's cold hearted and doesn't like relationships, etc. But I know as well as you do that words aren't good for truth.... from women...

Sometimes you find more truth in their youtube browsing history.


I mean I understand women read stuff in magazines like this all the time. Share tips, etc. But... I'm kind of freaked out by all this.

Would this freak you guys out as well?
 

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Freaked out? why?
 

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You've got her in the palm of your hand. What's there for you to freak out about? SHE'S the one freaking out! lol
 

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AttackFormation said:
Freaked out? why?

To me - makes her seem like she likes me more than I realized (or she indicated), and that she really wants a boyfriend.

She mostly sold me this image of herself that those videos didn't match up with.

It's just the feeling I got when I saw them, it was instantly, "oh man, this isn't good."
 

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conversations 90% sexual banter,
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getting kissing tips from youtube,
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cold hearted and doesn't like relationships
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= Player
 

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bukowski_merit said:
To me - makes her seem like she likes me more than I realized (or she indicated), and that she really wants a boyfriend.

She mostly sold me this image of herself that those videos didn't match up with.

It's just the feeling I got when I saw them, it was instantly, "oh man, this isn't good."
Why are you caring so much about your assumptions instead of just enjoying her and her p*ssy for the time it lasts?
 

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Honestly... you're making a big deal over nothing. I'd be THRILLED if I found out a girl was looking up videos on how to arouse me and give me a fun kissing experience. Whether she was looking it up in a magazine or on YouTube shouldn't make a difference - the point is, she was looking it up to kiss YOU in the best way possible.

As for words? Never listen to them. A lot of women will give the "not looking for a relationship" speech to men because they're used to the guy trying to rush in and be the boyfriend by date #2. In essence, it's a pace-setting statement they use the hopes of slowing down the emotional development of a current hook-up/dating situation until SHE feels comfortable enough to bring up the idea of a relationship. But in reality, the majority of women aren't getting themselves into a situation with a guy without at least thinking about it becoming a relationship at some point. It's just like a guy telling a girl "I'm just trying to have fun right now" knowing damn well he wants her but doesn't want her to see how quickly he's caught feelings for her.

Lastly: even if she's thinking about you as potential boyfriend material, the bottom line is she hasn't brought up any conversations like that yet. So, as long as YOU don't bring it up, you can have fun with her until SHE brings it up and then decide what route you want to go. But, if YOU bring it up, now the conversation will HAVE to happen, and her feeling rushed about the conversation could result in her not wanting to see you in any capacity, be it hook-up or relationship. So again - it's NO BIG DEAL, just leave it alone.
 

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Mr_Maximus said:
conversations 90% sexual banter,
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getting kissing tips from youtube,
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cold hearted and doesn't like relationships
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= Player
I have dealt with many "player" type females, and they don't ask a guy over 3 straight nights (i declined tonight as im exhausted from fvcking so much.)

And... I honestly thought she was a player and was fine with that, but I don't think she is anymore. I think she kind of knows the type of girl I go after (because we've worked together for 4 years) and sold me that she was that type of girl.

I can't tell you how many times over the last couple of weeks she's implied that her and I are the same type of person. For example: A few weeks ago she said, "You like to chase but you don't like when you catch the person because the chase is over.... I'm the same way that's how I can tell."

Most of the seducing here has been her....



AttackFormation said:
Why are you caring so much about your assumptions instead of just enjoying her and her p*ssy for the time it lasts?
I guess because I work with her; i don't want to hurt her. I can see her from here right now.

At the moment - I am not looking for anything that resembles a relationship; especially with a woman i work with. And if a woman gets to close to me - I just go NC on her. That's a lot harder to do when you work with someone.




Harry Wilmington said:
Honestly... you're making a big deal over nothing. I'd be THRILLED if I found out a girl was looking up videos on how to arouse me and give me a fun kissing experience. Whether she was looking it up in a magazine or on YouTube shouldn't make a difference - the point is, she was looking it up to kiss YOU in the best way possible.

As for words? Never listen to them. A lot of women will give the "not looking for a relationship" speech to men because they're used to the guy trying to rush in and be the boyfriend by date #2. In essence, it's a pace-setting statement they use the hopes of slowing down the emotional development of a current hook-up/dating situation until SHE feels comfortable enough to bring up the idea of a relationship. But in reality, the majority of women aren't getting themselves into a situation with a guy without at least thinking about it becoming a relationship at some point. It's just like a guy telling a girl "I'm just trying to have fun right now" knowing damn well he wants her but doesn't want her to see how quickly he's caught feelings for her.

Lastly: even if she's thinking about you as potential boyfriend material, the bottom line is she hasn't brought up any conversations like that yet. So, as long as YOU don't bring it up, you can have fun with her until SHE brings it up and then decide what route you want to go. But, if YOU bring it up, now the conversation will HAVE to happen, and her feeling rushed about the conversation could result in her not wanting to see you in any capacity, be it hook-up or relationship. So again - it's NO BIG DEAL, just leave it alone.
All solid advice.

Part of why I posted this was to find out if I am overreacting. And it looks like I am. I'll reanalyze/reframe the situation in my head.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
Part of why I posted this was to find out if I am overreacting. And it looks like I am. I'll reanalyze/reframe the situation in my head.
Take it as interest.
Her YouTube history is exactly the same is your SS post.
Funny, eh?
Both of you worried about your game with each other and look to tighten it up.

Aww...

How cute!

:up:
This one is scratching the notch on your bedpost!
 

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Mr_Maximus said:
conversations 90% sexual banter,
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getting kissing tips from youtube,
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cold hearted and doesn't like relationships
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= Player

Bingo!!!!
 

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You're a massive homo, OP.
 

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bukowski said:
Would this freak you guys out as well?
Yes. Maybe not 100% freak out, but I'd keep my guard up.

Harry Wilmington said:
I'd be THRILLED if I found out a girl was looking up videos on how to arouse me and give me a fun kissing experience.
I don't think that's the case here:
"How to kiss a guy to make him fall in love."
Harry Wilmington said:
As for words? Never listen to them.
Exactly. So this is meaningless:
she's told me she's cold hearted and doesn't like relationships
Harry Wilmington said:
A lot of women will give the "not looking for a relationship" speech to men because they're used to the guy trying to rush in and be the boyfriend by date #2. In essence, it's a pace-setting statement they use the hopes of slowing down the emotional development of a current hook-up/dating situation until SHE feels comfortable enough to bring up the idea of a relationship.
True. But this doesn't seem to be the case with this one.


Harry Wilmington said:
But in reality, the majority of women aren't getting themselves into a situation with a guy without at least thinking about it becoming a relationship at some point.
Right, and she's had 4 years to think about it.

Harry Wilmington said:
Lastly: even if she's thinking about you as potential boyfriend material, the bottom line is she hasn't brought up any conversations like that yet.
That's because she knows him. She's trying to do this $hit on the sly, thus the all the youtube videos.

Harry Wilmington said:
So, as long as YOU don't bring it up, you can have fun with her until SHE brings it up and then decide what route you want to go.
Good in theory. But, in this case, I feel it's better to be pro-active vs. re-active.


Harry Wilmington said:
But, if YOU bring it up, now the conversation will HAVE to happen, and her feeling rushed about the conversation could result in her not wanting to see you in any capacity, be it hook-up or relationship.
Huh? And this would be a bad thing? Though, IMO, I don't think that's what would happen.
 

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Between_The_Lines said:
What's there for you to freak out about? SHE'S the one freaking out! lol
Exactly. SHE is freaking out. That is the problem.

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You're a massive homo, OP.
OP posts a legitimate concern, then he gets a full page of bad advice, ended with someone calling him a homo.

Good ol SoSuave.
 

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Peaks&Valleys said:
Exactly. SHE is freaking out. That is the problem.


OP posts a legitimate concern, then he gets a full page of bad advice, ended with someone calling him a homo.

Good ol SoSuave.

So it's bad for women trying to perfect the art of kissing, but it's okay for men to read the DJ Bible to game women?
 

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Vulpine said:
Take it as interest.
Her YouTube history is exactly the same is your SS post.
Funny, eh?
Both of you worried about your game with each other and look to tighten it up.

Aww...

How cute!

:up:
This one is scratching the notch on your bedpost!
I thought of that as I was posting.

But I'm not exactly looking for tips on how to kiss a girl into loving me.



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Originally Posted by Mr_Maximus
conversations 90% sexual banter,
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getting kissing tips from youtube,
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cold hearted and doesn't like relationships
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= Player


Bingo!!!!
That would not be a bad thing to me. Those are the type of women I deal with, and I know won't end up hurt for messing with me. I might be cold myself, but I'm not so cold that I enjoy hurting women.

Since I've been messing with her - she's given me 0 proof that she's a player. After rejecting her offer to hangout tonight, she just asked me if I want to hangout tomorrow night. I told her Saturday will work best, and she instantly accepted. IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE A PLAYER TO YOU - YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH PLAYERS!


SeymourCake said:
You're a massive homo, OP.
nice
 

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SeymourCake said:
women trying to perfect the art of kissing
There's this^, then there's being obsessive compulsive about it in order to try to get a guy to fall in love with her. On top of it all, this woman's persona is completely different than who she really is. She's fake, she's a fraud. She is 100% mis-representing herself in order to try to appeal to our friend bukowski.

Red flags everywhere.
 

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Send her down I-80 my way if it's a problem. I'll take her off of your hands.
 

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OP, is she a good kisser? My 2nd wife was a lousy kisser. I wish she had spent some time researching it on YouTube.

I wouldn't take the video titles to heart... It's likely that for whatever reason, she was insecure about her kissing skills and was looking to bone up. Maybe someone told her she is a sh!tty kisser, who knows. AndIf that's the case, she's mor likely to be watching videos titled "make him fall in love with you through your kisses" than videos titled "how to not get your teeth in the way of your kiss".

BUT I do think you are right to be cautious as you work together. Generally, it's bad to sh!t where you eat.
 

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Some women really are terrible at kissing even in their mid 20s and beyond. You know when a good kiss is a good kiss. I kissed some South African a few weeks back and I told her "how does it feel to be a horrible kisser?". That was probably a bit too much as I didn't get a second date :p (or should that be she didn't). The point is many women are insecure about themselves and want the best advice to attract the best man. That's all she's doing, a bit strange though as most girls past 25 have kissed so many guys and sucks so many c0cks that they don't need Youtube to tell them how.
 

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Fvcking technology these days, gota delete your browser history, your youtube history, netflix history, avoid txt msgs coming up at the wrong time.

I'm one paranoid and deviant sob, dont want them happening on my japanese gameshow porn..
 
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