Millard Fillmore
Master Don Juan
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Something along these lines except don't "try to seduce her again." Western women have a way of circling back.in the "Ukrainian pickup", the recommendation is that you need to stop communicating with her, get (and show) improvement in life, and then after some time try to seduce her again.
But more importantly you just gotta do your own life and forget about her - easy come, easy go. Improve your life for your sake; don't make it performative. Lots and lots of women out there for you.
IME women can go from friends to lovers to friends quite easily, it's just that most men let their egos get in the way and muck things up. Calling anything "the friend zone" to me is just another frame surrender. If she says you're her friend, let her. But here's the thing. You get to define you before anyone else. So just be the Ukrainian playboy that got away (or whatever you want) and forget about what she says. Life's too short to live it in other people's paradigms. (Respect her boundaries but not her attempts to set your frame, if that makes sense.)