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mecca411
03-10-2005, 08:56 AM
I'll get right into it. I'm 28, Afro-american. Haven't had too many sexual partners. Been dating my girlfriend (caucasian, 26) for about 6 months now. Things are going well and sex just gets better and better.

Here's my issue. I notice during sex, that my girl's vagina isnt very tight around my ****. It's not loose. Just not super tight (except for when she contracts it, which always feels great.). I can ***, just not as fast as if I masterbated. I'm about 7.5-8 inches long and about 6 inches around, so I'm a decent size. The first time my girlfriend saw my **** she said I had a "big ****". It sounded like she hadn't seen one my size before. Kind of made me feel good. And that was that. BUt I've got some recent info from her that's made me feel not so great...I'll explain in a minute. I'm just wondering if her vagina should feel tighter or possible reasons that it might not. I've got an insecurity about my size for the first time and I'm a bit worried for some reason. I also worried that I can't pleasure her as much as she'd like if I'm not stretching her out enough.

Background on my girlfriend - My girl has been with 5 guys other than me in her entire life. I'll go back just far enough to give some perspective. First guy was when she was 15 and it was a one-time thing becuase the experience was so bad for them (they were dating) that they just never did it again. Her next boyfriend was for 3 years from when she was 17-20. Then she went for 2 years without sex before meeting her next boyfriend and they dated for a year(this is the important on e here because she was in love with him). She remained single and without sex for another two years before she dated another guy short term. We met about two months after that ended.

I want the sex with my girlfriend to be the best that either of us has ever had so I ask her what kinds of things she likes, but she's not entirely comfortable or open so that doesn't really go anywhere. Then one night we were lying in bed and talking about a problem we had with her vagina ripping a bit towards the back lips during sex. I asked if it had ever happened before and she said that it happened one of the first times that she had sex. Her boyfriend at the time was kind of small so it wasn't super bad, but it still hurt quite a bit. I thought that was all she would say, but then she mentioned her second boyfriend (the guy from a few years ago). Apparently he was about 6' but very skinny, only about 150-160lbs(I'm 5"10, 190lbs), but she mentioned that he was unprportional below the belt. She also said that he gave her the worst burning sensation she's ever had the first time they had sex. So bad that she had to go to the clinic to get something for the burn. SHe said that it was because he was big. After that, they had no problems and no more burning during sex. She said that she's also learned since then how to relax down there and lossen things up a bit.

NOw this is my whole issue - she's never compared us directly, but I keep thinking about maybe this guy was bigger than me. And it bugs me that maybe the reason my girls' vagina isn't so tight is because this guy's **** stretched it out. I guess it's made me a bit insecure for the first time. I should explain though, that I'm on blood pressure medication since just before we started having sex and I've not been able to get a fully hard erection for the entire time that we've been having sex. It's hard enough for penetration, but I still can't do some of the positions like (woman on top, which she loves), but I've added a few other like the butterfly which she seems to REALLY love. She's actually told me that in the past she used to only like having sex for a short period of time, but with me she likes it longer and that it feels good all the time and not just in the first few minutes. SHe also said that she likes it best with me ( I took this to mean that I'm the best she's had). Anyway, that's bit off topic. WE're pretty into each other, we're not at the I love you stage, but we're close.

I guess this thing is bothering me because I know that she was in love with her ex and actually for a time thought he would be the one. In a way I guess I kept comparing myself to him and worry that I might fall short. I just don't want it to be in the sex or size department. Anyways, what do you think. I read somewhere that the only thing that really changes the size of a vagina is childbirth. Is she loose just because it's the natural size of her vagina or is it because this guy stretched her out almost 3 years ago? Thanks.

M.

alphawolfx
03-10-2005, 02:53 PM
1) He's not a threat to you.

2) Vaginas slowly go back to thier original size after a few months/weeks.

3) She wasn't in love with him becaue of his d.ick.

4) Stop masturbating. No p.ussy can compare to how hard your hand can squeeze, so your d.ick is just used to that.

5) Sex/d.ick size isn't that important unless you make it so. She doesn't walk around all day thinking "Man, I wish his d.ick was bigger". She walks around thinking "I hope he doesn't think I'm fat, or that I'm boring, and I hope he really likes me and that I'm good in bed and that I make him happy blah blah blah."

6) She likes having sex with you more than the other guy. If you can't get it hard enough because of the medication, let her straddle your hand. Sex doesn't always have to involve your d.ick. I"m serious. Put your hand by your pelvis, have her straddle it, and finger f.uck her like she wants it.

7) "It's not the size of the boat, or the motion in the ocean. It's the weather." as quoted from my brilliant ex. Think about that.

8) Everytime you start getting bad thoughts, go eat her p.ussy. Or something sexual.

AverageFC
03-10-2005, 10:04 PM
what's the difference b/w afro-american and african-american?

eggnawgkid
03-11-2005, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by AverageFC
what's the difference b/w afro-american and african-american?

The hairstyle perhaps?

PoloBlue
03-12-2005, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by mecca411


Here's my issue. I notice during sex, that my girl's vagina isnt very tight around my ****. It's not loose.


NOw this is my whole issue - she's never compared us directly, but I keep thinking about maybe this guy was bigger than me. And it bugs me that maybe the reason my girls' vagina isn't so tight is because this guy's **** stretched it out.

Anyways, what do you think. I read somewhere that the only thing that really changes the size of a vagina is childbirth. Is she loose just because it's the natural size of her vagina or is it because this guy stretched her out almost 3 years ago? Thanks.

M.

her vagina is "loose" because thats how her's is naturally, it's not because of her previous boyfriend

I heard women can do special vagina exersizes called "kegal" exersizes? I think that might help.

http://www.mwsexual.com/readingroom/articles/kegel-exercises.htm

;)

walthermylove
04-29-2011, 12:07 PM
I know this is a very old thread but i was interested by it this morning when i found it so interested I registered here in order to post to this thread. I am a woman who is 32 yrs od age. A few years ago I had a similar problem only had no idea how to remedy the solution because Kegal exercises are something I had done since a young age. In my opinion your girlfriend isn't cumming. Orgasms helped me in that area. Not just the masturbatory orgasms I was having regularly but it took a man figuring out how to make me *** deeply. Once he showed me i could have multiple kinds of orgasms, such as A spot and G spot orgasms my vagina has become like new again So much so it takes a bit of play time to comfortably fit two fingers inside me. Now when i *** it takes some work for him to keep his erection inside me and lots of times my vagina will push it completely out and he can then begin to start intercourse and do it over and over again. Sex is more amazing than I ever could have imagined now. I hope this helps anyone who happens upon this thread and is curious as to what can be done to help with this issue. Oh and if youre a female do all of us a favor and stop faking it just to make a man (in your opinion) feel good about the experience. He will be so much more fulfilled if you will open up to him and truly help him discover real ways to pleasure you. You'll also reduce the risk of infidelity on both sides and create a closer bond between the two of you.

CLOONEY
04-29-2011, 10:36 PM
^^^^^^

What were the magic secrets this guy was doing to make you *** that previous men couldn't figure out?

TyTe`EyEz
04-30-2011, 02:06 AM
^^^^^^

What were the magic secrets this guy was doing to make you *** that previous men couldn't figure out?


This guy here; I like this guy right here.

The Piano Master
04-30-2011, 04:54 PM
I'd find that skinny dude and beat his ass. He stretched her out.

Warrior74
05-03-2011, 02:26 AM
http://www.rooshv.com/do-american-women-have-looser-pussies

rave_n_dancer
12-23-2011, 12:05 AM
I am a woman, I have had a few lovers that were of normal size, and a few that are considered to be extremely large. I am in a relationship now with a man that is of average (normal) size...about 8 inches...I have never in my entire sexual life been able to achieve the type of orgasms that I do until this man. I have started squirting which I have never done before with any lover until him. I get so wet that he slips out all the time and it seems like he can't stay hard enough or in me long enough to reach orgasm for himself. He has never complained, but I am worried that maybe he thinks I am too stretched out and he gives up trying to finish the act of orgasm. However, he does make sure that I am satisfied, then we always have to finish with me or him doing a hand job to get him to orgasm and release. I am worried that he will grow tired of this, and he thinks that he will never be able to make love to me and "release" inside of me because of all the wetness...

Desdinova
12-23-2011, 08:53 AM
I believe that all men and women are extremely different with the types of things that make them excited in the bedroom. I usually find that I can bring a woman to orgasm with my fingers and oral, but not with sexual intercourse. The last two women I've been with have been quite different. The last one ALWAYS had an orgasm during sexual intercourse. I don't think my current gf has EVER had an orgasm in her life, but I think I've brought her close (with sexual intercourse) and she's just been fighting it off. Time to get her drunk so she won't care :D

rave, this may be the way your man just is sexually. Some men can blast off after two pumps inside, and some men can almost NEVER ejaculate. There's also the possibility that he masturbates a lot. If he does, try getting him to refrain for a couple of days. That usually does the trick for me. But that's if he wants to blast the inside of your vagina. He may not want to if he's trying to avoid getting you pregnant.

metoo
12-23-2011, 09:33 AM
BS on the 6" around. :-) that means nearly 2" in diameter. You guys remember ANY geometry?

SamTheHobit
12-23-2011, 06:45 PM
Stretched vag1na= lots of d1ck.

horaholic
12-24-2011, 09:50 PM
Stretched vag1na= lots of d1ck.


Bullsh1t. It has NOTHING to do with dycks inside them, with the exception if it hurting when its been awhile/never since they've had sex. Porn stars and prostitutes are known for having tight vag. Looseness may have something to do with the laziness factor of a particular chick too. I've noticed loose chicks are usually very inactive. The inside of a vag is a muscle, and the stronger it is, the tighter it grips. Chicks who are athletic, are tighter by nature. The more kok a chick gets, the more she is working that muscle out. Interviews with hookers say they get a little tighter after they've banged a few guys in a day.

Chamber36
12-24-2011, 11:22 PM
Once I fvcked this russian chick, an IT specialist, and her pvssy was tight like a vice.

search1ng
12-25-2011, 03:54 AM
I am a woman, I have had a few lovers that were of normal size, and a few that are considered to be extremely large. I am in a relationship now with a man that is of average (normal) size...about 8 inches...I have never in my entire sexual life been able to achieve the type of orgasms that I do until this man. I have started squirting which I have never done before with any lover until him. I get so wet that he slips out all the time and it seems like he can't stay hard enough or in me long enough to reach orgasm for himself. He has never complained, but I am worried that maybe he thinks I am too stretched out and he gives up trying to finish the act of orgasm. However, he does make sure that I am satisfied, then we always have to finish with me or him doing a hand job to get him to orgasm and release. I am worried that he will grow tired of this, and he thinks that he will never be able to make love to me and "release" inside of me because of all the wetness...

Sh1t.

Zodiac
12-25-2011, 04:59 AM
Interviews with hookers say they get a little tighter after they've banged a few guys in a day.

And the facts say otherwise.

SamTheHobit
12-25-2011, 04:40 PM
Bullsh1t. Interviews with hookers say they get a little tighter after they've banged a few guys in a day.

lol you're in denial.

CuriousGirl
12-26-2011, 06:25 PM
Sh1t.
Don't worry, the only 8 inch **** I've ever seen belongs to my gay friend, pretty sure average is 5'' and when push comes to shove everyone knows by now that being good in bed has nothing to do with size.

Upside
12-26-2011, 09:51 PM
Wait...

So you've seen your gay friend's hard on? What?

Danger
12-27-2011, 07:31 AM
Don't worry, the only 8 inch **** I've ever seen belongs to my gay friend, pretty sure average is 5'' and when push comes to shove everyone knows by now that being good in bed has nothing to do with size.

I have found that girls like dominance in bed more than anything else. Fvk them like you are starving and they are the only food around for miles and miles. Never are they so happy and beaming as when I do that to them.

Social_Leper
12-27-2011, 09:42 AM
Wait...

So you've seen your gay friend's hard on? What?

Lol. I think "gay" is more appropriate.

Zodiac
12-27-2011, 10:43 AM
Lol. I think "gay" is more appropriate.

Agreed. Half AFCs use the term "gay" to have sex with their "girlfriends."

BigJimbo
12-27-2011, 05:46 PM
^How is that bs? The average circumference of a d/ick is 5 inches, so why's it so hard to believe that a black guy's is 6 inches?

Quit being a racist troll! Saying a black guy is bigger is like saying a black guy is dumber!

Halcyonique
12-27-2011, 06:58 PM
Yep - kegal exercises can help.

She can do this anywhere at anytime to help strengthen her muscles, just by flexing her downstairs muscles. A good time to do this, though, is when she pi$$es: She can clench her vaginal muscles so that the stream of urination stops. And then she can release them again.

Doing this a few times each day can really help.

Zodiac
12-28-2011, 06:25 AM
Quit being a racist troll! Saying a black guy is bigger is like saying a black guy is dumber!

You are the troll if you are trying to make a fact into a "racist" remark.

CuriousGirl
12-28-2011, 06:42 AM
Wait...

So you've seen your gay friend's hard on? What?
Well I live with him, I can assure you we've seen worse things. We're just far too comfortable with each other now. Anyway, he had never seen a vagina before and I'd never seen a big **** so we showed each other, he asked me about how it works and I asked him about circumcision. There really wasn't anything sexual in it. He has also never tried olives before and I've never had lentils so they're next on the list.

You can't say that like it's a solid fact though, because a 4 inch **** wouldn't satisfy you forever. I know that my friend's gf is clearly getting sick of his 4 incher. There's obviously a line somewhere, get real, and that line is 4 inches.
Well then you can't say that like it's a solid fact either. I didn't say **** size didn't matter at all I just said it has nothing to do with being good in bed. Or rather, really enjoying sex. When you're really enjoying sex you don't think about the size of anything, and in that instance your senses are heightened to the point where you're pleased with anything and everything.
****/vagina size is just one element of sex and it only becomes more important when other elements are waning.

But yeah, most things have a "within reason" attached to it.

Danger
12-28-2011, 06:48 AM
Please. While it's true that some black guys have small ones, I think we can all agree at this point that it's pretty much validated that black guys are bigger as a whole. By the way, how is a compliment like an insult?


I have to agree with Jimbo here. Black guys are the same as white guys are the same as asian guys.

The "blacks have big d1cks" argument is comparable to the "whites have higher IQ's" argument.

Social_Leper
12-28-2011, 12:02 PM
Well I live with him, I can assure you we've seen worse things. We're just far too comfortable with each other now. Anyway, he had never seen a vagina before and I'd never seen a big **** so we showed each other, he asked me about how it works and I asked him about circumcision.


I might have to try this one sometime.

Zodiac
12-28-2011, 12:53 PM
I have to agree with Jimbo here. Black guys are the same as white guys are the same as asian guys.

The "blacks have big d1cks" argument is comparable to the "whites have higher IQ's" argument.

Um:

http://www.brookings.edu/articles/1998/spring_education_jencks.aspx

Yeah... I'm seeing lots of trolling in this thread...

Regent
12-28-2011, 12:58 PM
Quit being a racist troll! Saying a black guy is bigger is like saying a black guy is dumber!

But there are physical differences between races. For example black people in general tend to be stronger and have better athletic ability than their white peers. It's no coincidence that all the 100m finalists are almost always black.

horaholic
12-28-2011, 06:12 PM
I like how most of the people disagreeing with me have little to no experience with women.

Im going to categorize women in 4 groups, and I'll tell you my experience. (Take the non-slutty category with a grain of salt.)

Group 1: non slutty chicks with no kids. I've had em tight, and I've had em kinda loose.

Group 2 non slutty chicks who have given birth: Usually loose, but I've had them tight also.

Group 3 slutty chicks without kids: Usually pretty tight.

Group 4 slutty chicks who've given birth: My BPD ex falls in this category, and she was very tight. I've banged several others who were usually tight, with one or two that were gapers.

This is my experience, not some shyt I read somewhere, or have theories about. One thing I do know is that most of the loose chicks were very inactive in general. The tight chicks were usually very active, whether athletic, or sexually. Think about this: The more you jerk off, the tighter you're grip gets right?

Also, think about this: Girl #1 has a steady BF and has sex ten times a week. Girl #2 is a total skank who bangs three different dudes a week. Girl #1 is having on average THREE times as much sex as girl two. Girl 2 is sampling several different sizes of penis, some big, some small, mostly average. If girl 1's BF has an above average penis size, Girl 1's pvssy is gonna be pounded harder and more often. Now, with that logic, and the logic that sex makes pvssies looser, it would stand to reason that girl #1 would be WAY looser that girl 2. How can that even be argued?? I say is partly genetics, partly how much exercise the pvssy gets, and whether she's had kids or not. Obviously, freaky bytches who double fist themselves are gonna be looser. There's not THAT big a difference in how wide cok's are, not enough to permanently ruin a vag, anyway.

The fact is, this 'she's loose, she must be a slvt,' is an ignorant, and unfounded myth, that people made up to make them feel better about their small penis size. If you know anything about human anatomy, you'd realize this. BTW, do we have any gynecologists here? I'd be interested in hearing their opinion!

jafyk
12-29-2011, 01:21 AM
But there are physical differences between races. For example black people in general tend to be stronger and have better athletic ability than their white peers. It's no coincidence that all the 100m finalists are almost always black.

This is coming from me a black guy...yet, the white men were able to capture all those black men from Africa and keep them as slaves for years with all their athleticism. Look at most of the crazy things like mountain climbing, extreme sports, how man black men do you see participating in those. As a black guy I'd really like to agree with you but most of what I see point other wise. I do love the fact that a lot of white people though have this myth about how black guys are these things and then they develop this fear of black people. How many black vs white fights have you seen?

SamTheHobit
12-29-2011, 01:26 AM
This is coming from me a black guy...yet, the white men were able to capture all those black men from Africa and keep them as slaves for years with all their athleticism. Look at most of the crazy things like mountain climbing, extreme sports, how man black men do you see participating in those. As a black guy I'd really like to agree with you but most of what I see point other wise. I do love the fact that a lot of white people though have this myth about how black guys are these things and then they develop this fear of black people. How many black vs white fights have you seen?

Good point.

Zodiac
12-29-2011, 06:25 AM
How many black vs white fights have you seen?

Numerous and it usually doesn't end well for the whites involved unless there are a significant number of whites to blacks or the white guy has numerous years of martial arts/lucky punch to start off the fight.

Danger
12-29-2011, 06:40 AM
Um:

http://www.brookings.edu/articles/1998/spring_education_jencks.aspx

Yeah... I'm seeing lots of trolling in this thread...


Interesting how it is only trolling when one says that white guys have higher iq's......but now when one says blacks have bigger d1cks.

Can't get much more racist than that.

Danger
12-29-2011, 06:41 AM
But there are physical differences between races. For example black people in general tend to be stronger and have better athletic ability than their white peers. It's no coincidence that all the 100m finalists are almost always black.


What is the coincidence behind white's exceling at winter sports?

Danger
12-29-2011, 06:45 AM
This is coming from me a black guy...yet, the white men were able to capture all those black men from Africa and keep them as slaves for years with all their athleticism. Look at most of the crazy things like mountain climbing, extreme sports, how man black men do you see participating in those. As a black guy I'd really like to agree with you but most of what I see point other wise. I do love the fact that a lot of white people though have this myth about how black guys are these things and then they develop this fear of black people. How many black vs white fights have you seen?


A fair and honest assessment from jayfk. Although I cannot disagree that blacks are definitely athletic and smart. Just as whites are athletic and smart, and asians as well. Although we do have areas that we excel in more than others dependent upon which race we are.

I have a problem with the "bigger d1ck" argument because it just isn't true and it is a default negative stigma on other races. It is no different from an asian or a white claiming to be smarter because of race.

Numerous and it usually doesn't end well for the whites involved unless there are a significant number of whites to blacks or the white guy has numerous years of martial arts/lucky punch to start off the fight.


That's funny, because I have seen otherwise.

Regent
12-29-2011, 08:46 AM
What is the coincidence behind white's exceling at winter sports?

My sister is an athlete and it's common knowledge among the community that winter sports are seen as 'reject' activities for those unable to excel at 'real' events (the crowd pleasers like 100m, long jump, etc). Make of that what you will.

Danger
12-29-2011, 09:48 AM
My sister is an athlete and it's common knowledge among the community that winter sports are seen as 'reject' activities for those unable to excel at 'real' events (the crowd pleasers like 100m, long jump, etc). Make of that what you will.


That's funny, because as far as I know, Hockey is FAR more popular than the 100m dash.

I think you mean it is common amongst the people who have no skill in winter sports to in turn deride those winter sports.

Altho I can understand one clinging to that rationale if one is trying to convince oneself of racial superiority.

azanon
12-29-2011, 11:14 AM
I am a woman, I have had a few lovers that were of normal size, and a few that are considered to be extremely large. I am in a relationship now with a man that is of average (normal) size...about 8 inches...I have never in my entire sexual life been able to achieve the type of orgasms that I do until this man. I have started squirting which I have never done before with any lover until him. I get so wet that he slips out all the time and it seems like he can't stay hard enough or in me long enough to reach orgasm for himself. He has never complained, but I am worried that maybe he thinks I am too stretched out and he gives up trying to finish the act of orgasm. However, he does make sure that I am satisfied, then we always have to finish with me or him doing a hand job to get him to orgasm and release. I am worried that he will grow tired of this, and he thinks that he will never be able to make love to me and "release" inside of me because of all the wetness...

Squirters are rare. If he doesn't like that, plenty of other guys would!

BigJimbo
12-29-2011, 02:37 PM
But there are physical differences between races. For example black people in general tend to be stronger and have better athletic ability than their white peers. It's no coincidence that all the 100m finalists are almost always black.

So you are saying they are more like animals? Like the ape? Less intelligent. Big butts. And you boys call me a troll. Whatever.

So then we can next say that 1.5% of America is Jewish, yet they control most of the wealth in America. They also control Hollywood. They are LOUSY at sports, yet they own and control every professional sport in North America.

Regent
12-29-2011, 03:41 PM
That's funny, because as far as I know, Hockey is FAR more popular than the 100m dash.

I think you mean it is common amongst the people who have no skill in winter sports to in turn deride those winter sports.

Altho I can understand one clinging to that rationale if one is trying to convince oneself of racial superiority.

Psychological projection.





And I'm white.

Zodiac
12-29-2011, 04:33 PM
Interesting how it is only trolling when one says that white guys have higher iq's......but now when one says blacks have bigger d1cks.

Can't get much more racist than that.

The guy is a known troll and blacks do have bigger di.cks, 2-3 inches on average. Also mind you if you took a minute to take a peek at my posts in threads like this one I say the same thing and so does he.

That's funny, because I have seen otherwise.

Hmmm.. my bar bouncer point of view sees this with his own eyes when I worked in Northern New England and your point of view saw this where? Drastically different mindsets and thought processes in the people of each of our locations.

Danger
12-29-2011, 05:05 PM
Psychological projection.





And I'm white.

I am not the one claiming superiority through bigger d1cks or calling winter sports a haven for the incompetent and thus the reason that blacks do not engage in it.

It seems you are only proficient at attempted defamation of the messenger instead of addressing the points.

Danger
12-29-2011, 05:07 PM
The guy is a known troll and blacks do have bigger di.cks, 2-3 inches on average. Also mind you if you took a minute to take a peek at my posts in threads like this one I say the same thing and so does he.



Hmmm.. my bar bouncer point of view sees this with his own eyes when I worked in Northern New England and your point of view saw this where? Drastically different mindsets and thought processes in the people of each of our locations.

And whites do have higher IQ's. But we digress.

I have a couple of friends who are Doctors and they say it is a myth, and I certainly cannot find any scientific evidence pointing to blacks having bigger d1cks. Can you cite some sources?

Regarding fights, what was the size differential? I too am from the Northern New England area.....and when I saw like-sized fights, no particular race ran away with the match.

Zodiac
12-29-2011, 10:11 PM
And whites do have higher IQ's. But we digress.

Statistically yes.

I have a couple of friends who are Doctors and they say it is a myth, and I certainly cannot find any scientific evidence pointing to blacks having bigger d1cks. Can you cite some sources?

In my intern training for my Department of Corrections job; Full body searches/eyeball checking for weapons during admittance into prison. On average a White male would be smaller than a Black male with Hispanic male in between and Asian male being the smallest by a large margin compared to blacks.

Regarding fights, what was the size differential? I too am from the Northern New England area.....and when I saw like-sized fights, no particular race ran away with the match.

Blacks were bigger and more muscular along with having a group of them that is larger than the group of white or other race. They also tend to, in my point of view, wait for a chance to "jump" a person when the person beats them in the fight one on one. For instance in my bouncer job I was trained to only get involved in fights if they happen on the property, if its in the public area within eyesight of the door or if more than one person that came from the bar is involved.

One instance that would happen a lot would be I would break up a fight between a White/Black/Asian guy and another guy of another race then toss them out as we had a zero tolerance policy. What I tend to notice with the Asian/White guy is they would call their friend inside the bar or someone outside to come get them if they were too drunk and leave or leave on their own if they could drive then we would file a report to the cops to cover the ass of the Bar.

What I did notice with a majority of the black patrons that got thrown out for fighting is they would make a scene, accuse people of racism for throwing them out to the Cops (Which with a showing of the security tapes is thrown out) or leave but later on in the night if you were still on duty around close you'd get a call to rush outside and break up a numerous people fighting 1/2 people, the blacks piss ass drunk from a different bar looking to get revenge on the patrons that helped ID their description when we did our reports to the Cops.

So yeah I have my views from a bouncer point of view and the whole time I was there I can say I've had to break up over 90 fights. From what I can recall off the top of a quick skimming of my log book (All bouncers are suppose to report these encounters as per the bar rules) was only roughly 10 of them were Whites, another 10 Asian and the rest were black or dark skinned individuals.


(Haha; sorry for the rant but when I started the post it got kind of away from me and when I conferred with my log book I just went crazy.)

Danger
12-30-2011, 10:01 AM
Statistically yes.



In my intern training for my Department of Corrections job; Full body searches/eyeball checking for weapons during admittance into prison. On average a White male would be smaller than a Black male with Hispanic male in between and Asian male being the smallest by a large margin compared to blacks.



Unfortunately that is not much of a scientific source.




Blacks were bigger and more muscular along with having a group of them that is larger than the group of white or other race. They also tend to, in my point of view, wait for a chance to "jump" a person when the person beats them in the fight one on one. For instance in my bouncer job I was trained to only get involved in fights if they happen on the property, if its in the public area within eyesight of the door or if more than one person that came from the bar is involved.


So your experience was with seeing a larger man beating a smaller man in a fight. There is nothing racial about that, that just tends to be normal. And it certainly does nothing to prove that blacks are more athletic.


One instance that would happen a lot would be I would break up a fight between a White/Black/Asian guy and another guy of another race then toss them out as we had a zero tolerance policy. What I tend to notice with the Asian/White guy is they would call their friend inside the bar or someone outside to come get them if they were too drunk and leave or leave on their own if they could drive then we would file a report to the cops to cover the ass of the Bar.

What I did notice with a majority of the black patrons that got thrown out for fighting is they would make a scene, accuse people of racism for throwing them out to the Cops (Which with a showing of the security tapes is thrown out) or leave but later on in the night if you were still on duty around close you'd get a call to rush outside and break up a numerous people fighting 1/2 people, the blacks piss ass drunk from a different bar looking to get revenge on the patrons that helped ID their description when we did our reports to the Cops.

So yeah I have my views from a bouncer point of view and the whole time I was there I can say I've had to break up over 90 fights. From what I can recall off the top of a quick skimming of my log book (All bouncers are suppose to report these encounters as per the bar rules) was only roughly 10 of them were Whites, another 10 Asian and the rest were black or dark skinned individuals.


(Haha; sorry for the rant but when I started the post it got kind of away from me and when I conferred with my log book I just went crazy.)

I have to say, bouncers do have some great stories, as well as CO's. I grew up near a famous prison and I remember my ex's Dad telling me how one convict threw him across a table at the prison (and he was 250, I can only imagine how big the convict was), and then proceeded to beat down on two other guards in the room. Crazy $hit.

Zodiac
12-30-2011, 03:01 PM
Unfortunately that is not much of a scientific source.

Eyewitness testimony for numerous versions of seeing the same thing over and over and over again (Like over 60 in a month and have various co-workers that can say the same thing) kind of makes you a case study. Even if its never been studied by science (Which it wont ever be done I'm sure of it) doesn't mean that eyewitness testimony cant be similar to scientific method in its practice especially if its the way I have to do it. I swear its so much easier to make various science experiments that I did in college than its to do a strip search.

So your experience was with seeing a larger man beating a smaller man in a fight. There is nothing racial about that, that just tends to be normal. And it certainly does nothing to prove that blacks are more athletic.

Its a fact. I don't even need to prove it.

I have to say, bouncers do have some great stories, as well as CO's. I grew up near a famous prison and I remember my ex's Dad telling me how one convict threw him across a table at the prison (and he was 250, I can only imagine how big the convict was), and then proceeded to beat down on two other guards in the room. Crazy $hit.

Yeah. There are those I told you and the few I cant talk about until the investigation done and the ones about the batteries in their sock beating to death a few inmates before I joined. That's where the crazy **** happened.