You want deadly strength try this

[Fragem]

http://www.dragondoor.com/vs2.html

 

[BigManB69]

What a dumbass post..and btw, thats total bull****. Dont post worthless **** like this again.

 

[oOh Nasty]

Originally posted by Fragem:
http://www.dragondoor.com/vs2.html

true...that was pointless ****. please ban urself from this site. thx

 

[Soshyopathe]

actually, Pavel Tsatsouline knows what he is doing. However, it won't help strength much, just techniques.

 

[Fragem]

I post one topic that may seem outlandish and you close mindedly reject the website and Pavel's claims, how childish.

[This message has been edited by Fragem (edited 11-09-2002).]

 

[Fragem]

I found this site and thought you guys might be willing to read it, I never expected flaming lol. And you call yourselves Don Juans and you explode with all this anger over a website that breaks your paradigm. Real Men don't get that angry over a website they are skeptical with.

 

[blong1068]

Originally posted by Fragem:
I found this site and thought you guys might be willing to read it, I never expected flaming lol. And you call yourselves Don Juans and you explode with all this anger over a website that breaks your paradigm. Real Men don't get that angry over a website they are skeptical with.

No one is angry, they are just letting you know that your post doesn't help anyone out in any way. Some people just aren't very articulate.



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Drug offenders do more time than child molestors, rapists, and murderers. Is this justice? Is this the American way?

 

[Soshyopathe]

Don't get so defensive, Fragem. We all make gay posts. Except me.

 

[DIESEL]

Actually,

Pavel "The Evil Russian" T knows what the fvck he is talking about.

If I had $280, I'd definitely check it out.

Check out his articles on t-mag... and he also writes a monthly column in Muscle Media magazine (pretty much the only reason to read that rag)

lates,
D

p.s. to all those who flamed the kid for posting this.. YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.

 

[Fragem]

I sure as hell wouldn't want to fight Pavel that's for sure. When and If I get $280 dollars together I am definatly going to check it out.

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[Eltosian]

Dragondoor is a great site.

Don't bother with the $280 SWAT tape. Get Power to the People, Russian Kettlebell Challenge and Bullet Proof Abs instead, which cover most of the same stuff.

Kettlebells rule!

They're essentially the "working class" answer to Olympic-style weightlifting, plus cardio and tendon/ligament strengthening benefits in one.

If you're skeptical, you can get most of the benefit of kettlebells with thick-handled dumbbells.

[This message has been edited by Eltosian (edited 11-11-2002).]

 

[Soshyopathe]

Apparently his method to be as strong as you can, as small as you can.

 

[Eltosian]

Originally posted by Soshyopathe:
Apparently his method to be as strong as you can, as small as you can.

Yes, this is ideal for military situations, since he was a Spetznas PT instructor.

You can become quite strong without very much hypertrophy, but only to a certain extent. For maximum and consistent strength gains, sarcomere/myobril hypertrophy and neurological efficiency improvement is needed.

 

[Soshyopathe]

I don't know what any of that means.

Just out of curiosity, how exactly would you go about packing susper strength into small space? Would doing the opposite make you maximize size relative to strength?

 

[KiLLer]

Originally posted by Soshyopathe:
I don't know what any of that means.

Just out of curiosity, how exactly would you go about packing susper strength into small space? Would doing the opposite make you maximize size relative to strength?

Powerlifting basically.

 

[Soshyopathe]

But I suppose you would have to limit your calories as well so you don't grow, but you do increase strength. Is this correct?

 

[DJ Girevik]

My weightlifting coach is a dragondoor junkie. Result: he's nearly 60 with a bad knee, and can clean + jerk over 300 pounds. Also, all 4 of his kids (ages 21 to 12) are olympic lifters. None of them look all that buff or even very cut, but his oldest son can clean and jerk over 450 pounds (I don't know about his other lifts). And his 12 year old daughter can clean and jerk 120 pounds, and snatch 100. His training has worked for me too (getting a LOT stronger, more athletic and more cut, and never get injured either).

 

[Eltosian]

Originally posted by Rusty Metal Up Yours:
My weightlifting coach is a dragondoor junkie. Result: he's nearly 60 with a bad knee, and can clean + jerk over 300 pounds. Also, all 4 of his kids (ages 21 to 12) are olympic lifters. None of them look all that buff or even very cut, but his oldest son can clean and jerk over 450 pounds (I don't know about his other lifts). And his 12 year old daughter can clean and jerk 120 pounds, and snatch 100. His training has worked for me too (getting a LOT stronger, more athletic and more cut, and never get injured either).

Does your coach happen to be Ethan Reeve?

BTW- Dragondoor has great forums and articles. My favorite site.

 

[Soshyopathe]

Snatches are hard.

 

[DJ Girevik]

My coach is Mike Burgener (also US olympic women's weightlifting coach)

Yeah, snatches are hard. It's taken me the better part of 2 years to learn the correct form.