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you are supposed to think spaz has no idea what hes talking about.....
You're right. I agree.

But I don't think that.


So being dishonest isn't an option to me any longer. Calibrating to becoming more feminine is challenging when I feel I will die if I don't remain authentic. Not sure you observe this wavelength but thanks for the observational feedback.
 

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Women have one key advantage over men in this regard - the male desire for sex far outweighs the female desire for sex. As long as this leverage exists in an unregulated sexual marketplace then females will always be the celebrities and the males will always be the fans.
Do you know why you think like that and I think differently?

It's because you fvck who you can.

And I fvck who I want.

We r not the same.
 

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These are high quality women I'm talking about from age 28-51. I don't know how may people here on this forum has gone out with many high quality women before.
then we need to state a metric, what would consider a quality woman? only schoolarship is week, and I know most here who consider a quality woman I wouldn't so, and serious I do prefer to stay alone then with someone who will drag me down or hold me back, dating around is so damn easy I see little reason to settle
 

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then we need to state a metric, what would consider a quality woman? only schoolarship is week, and I know most here who consider a quality woman I wouldn't so, and serious I do prefer to stay alone then with someone who will drag me down or hold me back, dating around is so damn easy I see little reason to settle
Everyone has their version but what I mean by HQ is someone that has come from a good family and maintains a strong bond with them, has a good job, mentally stable, is not a protestor/hardcore feminist, is off or doesn't participate much in social media, has had long term relationships and is LTR oriented, has good positive role models/friends, etc.

I'm not talking about BPD Starbuck's barista's that's come from a broken home with depression/mental issues that our out there protesting, sleeping with every guy, seeking validation and control off OLD/social media, always drinking/smoking, don't know how to manage their finances, etc.
 

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Everyone has their version but what I mean by HQ is someone that has come from a good family and maintains a strong bond with them, has a good job, mentally stable, is not a protestor/hardcore feminist, is off or doesn't participate much in social media, has had long term relationships and is LTR oriented, has good positive role models/friends, etc.

I'm not talking about BPD Starbuck's barista's that's come from a broken home with depression/mental issues that our out there protesting, sleeping with every guy, seeking validation and control off OLD/social media, always drinking/smoking, don't know how to manage their finances, etc.
have dated one or two lol...one of them also came from a bad family and talked a lot of sh!t later. Its pretty pathetic how rare they are.
 

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is this scientifically proven? or men are conditioned to think that sex is Gold?

Look at this this way. How many women are buying d!ck pics on OnlyFans?
How many men are making a living by posting selfies of their butt on Instagram?
How many average male joes create a tinder account and get 1000 matches in a day?

The thirst is real, gentleman.
 

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have dated one or two lol...one of them also came from a bad family and talked a lot of sh!t later. Its pretty pathetic how rare they are.
Yeah they can be rare indeed. I've been fortunate to have been in a position to date quite a few. I don't know what it is about me or the vibe I give off to attract these types either. Just earlier this year, I dated a COO and I'm thinking what the hell does she possibly see in me. LOL
Weird thing about OLD for me, I don't match with 100's of gals like others but the ones I do match with, 80% of them turn into meeting for a date, 80% of them end up being decent chicks, and 40% of that turns into STR/LTR's...
 

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Look at this this way. How many women are buying d!ck pics on OnlyFans?
How many men are making a living by posting selfies of their butt on Instagram?
How many average male joes create a tinder account and get 1000 matches in a day?

The thirst is real, gentleman.
no one said is not, but saying woman don't need is wrong.

remember when a woman yell I wanna have sex in the street guys will pop from hell and they will even make a line if a woman is willing to give to everyone.

if a guy do the same he is lucky if 2 gays show up.

thing is woman when she need, she will find a guy, hence why most woman never really paid for having sex with men, but remember there is male prostitutes too and male gold diggers, who go after oldies, rich old ladies, is not because is not used a lot on main stream it means it don't exist, or common
 

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no one said is not, but saying woman don't need is wrong.

remember when a woman yell I wanna have sex in the street guys will pop from hell and they will even make a line if a woman is willing to give to everyone.

if a guy do the same he is lucky if 2 gays show up.

thing is woman when she need, she will find a guy, hence why most woman never really paid for having sex with men, but remember there is male prostitutes too and male gold diggers, who go after oldies, rich old ladies, is not because is not used a lot on main stream it means it don't exist, or common
No one said that women don't love sex. The reality is that men love sex more than woman (testosterone). This is the imbalance.
 

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no one said is not, but saying woman don't need is wrong.

remember when a woman yell I wanna have sex in the street guys will pop from hell and they will even make a line if a woman is willing to give to everyone.

if a guy do the same he is lucky if 2 gays show up.

thing is woman when she need, she will find a guy, hence why most woman never really paid for having sex with men, but remember there is male prostitutes too and male gold diggers, who go after oldies, rich old ladies, is not because is not used a lot on main stream it means it don't exist, or common
This is an interesting debate. There is evidence on both sides. I am leaning towards the side that states that men are much more sexually voracious than women. Lets look at this scientifically. Men make upwards of 10X the amount of testosterone than women. Testosterone is the main hormone that increases sex drive. Women on hormone replacement therapy ( post menopuasal and trans) report being very horny after the testosterone injections.

Women are selective with their sexual partners. If men had the sexual options of women they would not be selective at all. They would smash everything from a 5/10 to 10/10. Women also need a story line for pornographic films. Men are so horny that they fast forward the story line. We dont care. So in conclusion, men are most likely a lot more sexually voracious than women.

Pan87 is correct. As long as this imbalance exists, then men will be at a severe disadvantage in the dating market. The key is to control this urge. A mans greatest battle in life is his sexuality. A woman greatest battle is her emotionality.
 

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This is an interesting debate. There is evidence on both sides. I am leaning towards the side that states that men are much more sexually voracious than women. Lets look at this scientifically. Men make upwards of 10X the amount of testosterone than women. Testosterone is the main hormone that increases sex drive. Women on hormone replacement therapy ( post menopuasal and trans) report being very horny after the testosterone injections.

Women are selective with their sexual partners. If men had the sexual options of women they would not be selective at all. They would smash everything from a 5/10 to 10/10. Women also need a story line for pornographic films. Men are so horny that they fast forward the story line. We dont care. So in conclusion, men are most likely a lot more sexually voracious than women.

Pan87 is correct. As long as this imbalance exists, then men will be at a severe disadvantage in the dating market. The key is to control this urge. A mans greatest battle in life is his sexuality. A woman greatest battle is her emotionality.

I agree with all of this aside your final point about "A Woman's greatest battle is her emotionality".

Women are the masters of emotional manipulation and it is her greatest weapon in the battle of the sexes. They own this mental battlefield. The entire Redpill community was developed to try and even the score, but the fact remains that females victoriously manipulate and crush the average man in most cases, far exceeding the (tiny proportion) of men that have women beat in the emotional manipulation stakes. Why isn't there a female equivalent word for "simping"? Because it doesn't exist.

90% of Redpill is Oneitis/P#ssy Worship protection and I recognise that the community still hasn't solved this problem. The only way to avoid oneitis is to bang women who you genuinely don't care about. How fun is it banging a woman that you don't care about? It is fun for about 3 orgasms before you're off to find the next woman who you don't care about. Do this hundreds of times and get blackpilled like Roosh and eventually start craving a woman who you care about again - thus, women collectively win. Guess what happened to Roosh when he found a woman who he cared about and LTR'd? She dumped him.

Male need for sex and (ultimately) affection/love from a woman is the ultimate power imbalance.

To quote the cliche - Men are the true romantics and love idealistically. Woman are hypergamous and love opportunistically. Woman are attracted to men who don't care about them, Men are ultimately attracted to Women who they care about. It's irreconcilable. Nature is cruel.

Because of Government, Women don't need providers anymore and this was the traditional male leverage. Slut shaming (Hypergamy shaming) is also pretty much a crime now so women have unbridled power to pursue their sexual strategy.
 

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Haha anytime you try to tell men that we should find purpose outside of women someone says " who hurt you?".

My last relationship was not terrible. For an average looking guy i have done ok in the dating market. My issue is that dating never fullfilled me like pursuing my goals did.

I wish i had found martial arts much earlier in life. Even though i am not good at it i absolutely love it. This fulfulls me more than chasing women ever did.

Anytime you put fulfillment into any human beinf outside of yourself and God you will ve disappointed. You cant understand this because you are a woman and you are made to be validated by men. Men are different. We were never made to be validated by women.

Paradoxically, when you see obsessed with something the women magically show you in your life.

I need to get back to practicing guitar again. I want to be good at that but i have plateaued. Any guitar players private message me lets chat.
Lynx chat is a woman? So we have the old lady AND this one in here?
 

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Everyone has their version but what I mean by HQ is someone that has come from a good family and maintains a strong bond with them, has a good job, mentally stable, is not a protestor/hardcore feminist, is off or doesn't participate much in social media, has had long term relationships and is LTR oriented, has good positive role models/friends, etc.

I'm not talking about BPD Starbuck's barista's that's come from a broken home with depression/mental issues that our out there protesting, sleeping with every guy, seeking validation and control off OLD/social media, always drinking/smoking, don't know how to manage their finances, etc.
Every women CAN be either one, just put her in that environment and she'll be it.

So the quality comes from you as you INFLUENCE her direction.

As for those men who always cries being victims of BPD women, you'd ought to take a good hard look at those men 1st.
 

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That's because ur society teaches their men to treat women as some sort of celebrity.

Because of that, women treats them like celebrities treats fans.

Now if only the men here (who claims red pilled maxxed) treats women as if they are their fans, then the women would treat them like celebrities.

Problem solved.
Thats true.

We were raised in this kind of environment and culture, just watch some movies and actually some recent movies and series. They sell this kind of idea plus feminism amd everything that is popular nowadays.

I think this can change when people stop to desire it. Like that classic sales quote: "People buy what they want, not what they need."

Until men and women do not evolve some kind of better awareness, this will keep hapenning over and over again.

I stop to think about some stuffs of this modern society... Humans are chasing so many nonsense stuffs, its not a surprise why we see all those crazy stuffs in the world.
 

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This is an interesting debate. There is evidence on both sides. I am leaning towards the side that states that men are much more sexually voracious than women. Lets look at this scientifically. Men make upwards of 10X the amount of testosterone than women. Testosterone is the main hormone that increases sex drive. Women on hormone replacement therapy ( post menopuasal and trans) report being very horny after the testosterone injections.

Women are selective with their sexual partners. If men had the sexual options of women they would not be selective at all. They would smash everything from a 5/10 to 10/10. Women also need a story line for pornographic films. Men are so horny that they fast forward the story line. We dont care. So in conclusion, men are most likely a lot more sexually voracious than women.

Pan87 is correct. As long as this imbalance exists, then men will be at a severe disadvantage in the dating market. The key is to control this urge. A mans greatest battle in life is his sexuality. A woman greatest battle is her emotionality.
hence why there is prostitutes and is called the oldest profession, but remember what sex really is, is validation, for both sides, remember what happen when a woman is negate sex, what everyone tells you, sex is validation, is confirmation of your SMV, and woman SMV perception is bloated, she will always belive she is higher then reality, and when that is proven she will lose it, hence again *****s exist.

most here belive the only validation woman get is from atencion, and is only half of it, the real validation is sex from a higher tier SMV, or is case of woman male
 

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Thats true.

We were raised in this kind of environment and culture, just watch some movies and actually some recent movies and series. They sell this kind of idea plus feminism amd everything that is popular nowadays.

I think this can change when people stop to desire it. Like that classic sales quote: "People buy what they want, not what they need."

Until men and women do not evolve some kind of better awareness, this will keep hapenning over and over again.

I stop to think about some stuffs of this modern society... Humans are chasing so many nonsense stuffs, its not a surprise why we see all those crazy stuffs in the world.
Right! People follow the trend. Not realizing much of it was "fluff"
 

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Male need for sex and (ultimately) affection/love from a woman is the ultimate power imbalance.

To quote the cliche - Men are the true romantics and love idealistically. Woman are hypergamous and love opportunistically. Woman are attracted to men who don't care about them, Men are ultimately attracted to Women who they care about. It's irreconcilable. Nature is cruel.

Because of Government, Women don't need providers anymore and this was the traditional male leverage. Slut shaming (Hypergamy shaming) is also pretty much a crime now so women have unbridled power to pursue their sexual strategy.
Nicely put. When we say women love opportunistically what exactly do we mean? Do we mean she will trade you up the first chance she gets? Ive had girls who were so in "love" with me that it seems like they would never break up with me even if the bigger better deal came. Of course these were all short term relationships. I never got to the point 25 yrs down the road where she just falls of out "love" with me and divorce rapes me because of "reasons".

Would you agree that men "fu*k" opportunistically and that women love "opportunistically"?
 

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Nicely put. When we say women love opportunistically what exactly do we mean? Do we mean she will trade you up the first chance she gets? Ive had girls who were so in "love" with me that it seems like they would never break up with me even if the bigger better deal came. Of course these were all short term relationships. I never got to the point 25 yrs down the road where she just falls of out "love" with me and divorce rapes me because of "reasons".

Would you agree that men "fu*k" opportunistically and that women love "opportunistically"?
On this "opportunistically" thing with women, it all depends upon her mindset. More of todays women have a "ho" mindset entrenched, so even if they cover it up, it comes out and does what that does.
 

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Nicely put. When we say women love opportunistically what exactly do we mean? Do we mean she will trade you up the first chance she gets? Ive had girls who were so in "love" with me that it seems like they would never break up with me even if the bigger better deal came. Of course these were all short term relationships. I never got to the point 25 yrs down the road where she just falls of out "love" with me and divorce rapes me because of "reasons".

Would you agree that men "fu*k" opportunistically and that women love "opportunistically"?

The woman falls in love with the man who she sees as Above Her. Once the man gets complacent, which is inevitable in an LTR, then he loses frame and the woman snaps into a new, lesser image of her man. It always takes guys by surprise when it happens because they forget Briffault's Law and that women are living "in the moment."
 

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Every women CAN be either one, just put her in that environment and she'll be it.

So the quality comes from you as you INFLUENCE her direction.

As for those men who always cries being victims of BPD women, you'd ought to take a good hard look at those men 1st.
Often those men look at themselves also. Some hang themself, some break, some endure, some excel at something else as a result. They almost never can change but do grow new skills. If the top tier (public celebrity status) men have the issues and some more than average men then it is not about success or following a purpose as many of those same have done so and it is how they have reached fame.

A heart that desires love will fail, a heart that desires attention only can win because attention can be negotiated.

Cutting out the desire for love and goodness seems to be the only way. Become a bad person is a way to win this. This requires a change in personal codes. Seems RP teaches to hide the same, but it can not be hidden if strong; must be cut out and something else in its place.
 
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