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Why it’s cheaper to pay a lady of the night, rather than waste your time and money trying to “pick up” women in bars and nightclubs.

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
Not always.

When you go out you are not just setting yourself up to meet women, but people in general. It might be expend your social cirlce and even bring you some business type of connections.

A night out might indeed be just as costly as a hooker. But a hooker means 30 minutes fun and gone. A night out means a full night having fun.

If you do catch a bird you will be able to feck multiple times for "free". If you reduce your sex life to a time/money thing, this should be at least interesting to you. Think about it: poosy is now worth 150 bucks for 30 minutes. If you find a woman you can feck for free you'll be saving tons of money.

Women like to have sex. In my mind sex shouldn't necessarily cost money . Finally there the issue of self esteem. Seduction is a process thats more about the journey than the destination. By soley visiting hookers you take away your own ability to seduce a woman. You skip a lot of vital parts.

Its the easiest solution short term, but not the best solution long term, like doing hard drugs to feel better today. What about tomorrow?
 
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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
Maybe it only makes fiscal/emotional sense for someone at a low enough tier that he calls himself "ugly".
 

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Generally, yes, it's going to be cheaper because you're actually getting what you pay for rather than paying just to be in the vicinity of women.
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
No.
 

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I wish more men would seriously undertake learning how to seduce.

It’s a scintillating, sexy process. Men who understand seduction are delightful to be around and women enjoy their company, irrespective of what these men look like. Yes of course looks help but they are not required. Some of the greatest seducers in history have been objectively ugly.

Too many men around here treat women like they are porcupines or skunks….fear based “OMG what do I do???”

Of course that vibe is entirely anti seductive.

Banging escorts is outcome based and assures the desired result. But it is never going to meet the rest of your emotional needs as a human. Over time it may make you less socially adroit and less able to actually socialize with women, you will objectify women, women will feel this vibe on you, and you become more creepy.

The only way to avoid this is to see your hookers as people and spend time with them beyond sex. But that “girlfriend experience” which at least one member here does, gets much more expensive and still may not ever develop into genuine affection on her part.
 

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Picking up girls at x venue is a means to developing a flourishing and loving relationship that extends beyond bedroom. Where too, the sex only gets better the more you guys do it. With a hooker, the is no future after she's received her agreed upon fee.
 

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Finally there the issue of self esteem. Seduction is a process thats more about the journey than the destination.
When the quality of the woman you're trying to seduce (we're talking bars and nightclubs here) is low, how is that beneficial to the guy's self esteem? :rolleyes: I find this whole process of seducing ditzy bimbos and women with more problems than a math textbook hilarious, it's like writing intention letters, wearing expensive suits and going through several interview stages for some minimum wage McD job.
 

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If you do a cost to benefit analysis, it’s actually cheaper to just pay a hooker for sex, rather than waste your time and money trying to pick up a woman in a bar, or nightclub.

Think about it logically, when you factor in the cost of nightclub entry fees, alcohol, food and taxi/Uber fares, it’s cheaper to pay for it, plus the sex with a hooker will be better (if she knows what she is doing).

You know it makes sense.
It depends, in US an escort might charge you $300-$1500 (I never banged one in the States so I can't give much details) and be average.
In Thailand it might cost $10.

So it's not always "cheaper".
 

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When the quality of the woman you're trying to seduce (we're talking bars and nightclubs here) is low, how is that beneficial to the guy's self esteem? :rolleyes: I find this whole process of seducing ditzy bimbos and women with more problems than a math textbook hilarious, it's like writing intention letters, wearing expensive suits and going through several interview stages for some minimum wage McD job.
Because you are a man. A man must determine his own SMV ,or at least be somewhat aware of it. Look ,you can say; " I prefer a hb9 and nothing else" while being a 5 or even a 7 or even a 8 yourself. Your whole life now is a big power struggle you're bound to always lose.

You're talking bars. We all been at a club once where we were drunk and at the end tried to take home a goblin . And if you managed to take her home the sex might've been super...

Back to my first paragraph. This man will slowly but surely lower his own worthiness by pondering to women that never even wanted him. How will that "increase " his selfesteem? He's just chasing a dragon aka he's after a future promise of tons of selfesteem he'll get via a hot woman...while never getting hot women..

I don't know the absolute truth. But i would advice this man to LOWER his standards and at least experience what's it like to have a woman creaming and screaming underneath him.

To simplify this even further;
Option A. Hot woman that acts lukewarm at best, gibes tons of headaches BUT your friends and strangers "respect" you because she is pretty.

Option B. Less attractive in his eyes, but treats him like a king and is happy to be with him.

What is better for his selfesteem? You tell me
 
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@Ugly bastard

I honestly agree with your statement. If your goal was to just have sex, I believe you'd be far better off just paying for it instead of using nightlife as a means to acquire this. You have to literally go OUT of your way to show up to the nightlife venue, pay cover charge, drinks/food, etc. Then you have to actually approach women, which does not necessarily result in success. There is a lot of time, energy and money going into something that has no guarantee you will achieve what it is you desire. Nightlife is not the best means of meeting women and overall has a low success rate for men. You also should consider that you probably would have to lower your standards by quite a bit if you were looking for something like that, which may or may not be something you would be open to.

Age is also a big factor here as well. A guy that is in his early to mid 20s could realistically meet women in this environment, especially if he was in a college town. If you are into your 30s, or even approaching 40 or past this, you are probably wasting your time in my honest opinion. Most women have usually moved past the "going out" phase by the time they reach their late twenties, so they'll mostly be between 21-25. This is something that should be seriously considered in my honest opinion.

However, here is my take on hiring a "professional". Having sex with an escort, or whatever you want to call her, is not at all the same as with a woman that truly wants to have sex with you. It's better than masturbation for sure but not comparable to something more natural, I don't really know how to explain it. There are some instances where the escorts get into this because they are legitimate nymphos, these would be the best ones to find. However, this is not the case for many of them, so keep that in mind. There is an element with many escorts that personally gives me a very uneasy feeling. Many of these women have drug issues and use escort services as a means to fund this issue. You also should consider that there is an underworld element to these women, which can potentially come with a host of many other issues. In addition to this, there is the possibility of getting into legal trouble as well. I personally believe that there is nothing wrong with a man hiring for services like this but there are many other factors that should be seriously considered.
 
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This has been discussed many times here:


 

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When the quality of the woman you're trying to seduce (we're talking bars and nightclubs here) is low, how is that beneficial to the guy's self esteem? :rolleyes: I find this whole process of seducing ditzy bimbos and women with more problems than a math textbook hilarious, it's like writing intention letters, wearing expensive suits and going through several interview stages for some minimum wage McD job.
Look,I do understand where you're coming from. This imo is the "holding out for better " strategy.

What it did for me was it made me pedestalize the wrong type of women for the wrong reasons. I ditched some women that weren't "perfect " ( delusional and desensitized by disney and porn) in my eyes back then. Little i knew what kinds of headaches and drama were waiting for me..

Later on I got in bad relationships with hot women and I realized that I should've went for the women that viewed me as the absolute prize. Could be a hb7 or perhaps 6 chasing me, me getting bored with her prefering a" challenge ". So now I'm going after the hb8+ bad bytch and learn that sometimes there's a huge prize to be payed if you want hb8. I also learned that time will turn an hb8 into a hb6,5 anyway...with a even worste attitude than before.

How would I even know the difference between a nice hb7 /6 and a bytchy 8 if I only went after hb8? At some point you gotta be able to determine your own worth despite of what woman or person X or Z thinks of you.

If you live by this holdout strategy you better be really patient and on top of that you must be"perfect " yourself. You cant demand things from women you are not able to bring to the table yourself.
 

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It depends, in US an escort might charge you $300-$1500 (I never banged one in the States so I can't give much details) and be average.
In Thailand it might cost $10.

So it's not always "cheaper".
and. mostly illegal
 
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