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Who suggested to stop having elections????

Republicans advocate auditing elections and voter rolls, but somehow that seems unacceptable in a Democracy (to Democrats at least).
The "auditing" of voter rolls is to do things that have proven to be more difficult for Democratic voters than Republican voters. The only valid audit that there should be is to see if someone has registered to vote somewhere else, has given up his citizenship, in jail, or has died. Sending a postcard (that could be "lost" in the mail, ahem) is an improper way to audit.

Now, on this same subject, I do agree with voter ID - BUT, this ID would need to be something that could be garnered completely free of charge (i.e., no "poll tax" as proscribed in the Constitution). I agree that Dems who are against voter ID are wrong here, and should be willing to accept it IF there is such a system with a free ID. Oh, and along with that, a way for someone who has temporarily lost his voter ID to do a presumptive vote that could be checked if the election were close enough.
 

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Now, on this same subject, I do agree with voter ID - BUT, this ID would need to be something that could be garnered completely free of charge (i.e., no "poll tax" as proscribed in the Constitution). I agree that Dems who are against voter ID are wrong here, and should be willing to accept it IF there is such a system with a free ID. Oh, and along with that, a way for someone who has temporarily lost his voter ID to do a presumptive vote that could be checked if the election were close enough.
Voter ID is just Republican suppressing the vote. What you suggested already exists; it’s called a provisional ballot. Voter ID will never be free because the intent has nothing to do with identity. Identity and eligibility are already verified at voter registration. And if identity is so important we would have to completely do away with absentee ballots. Not a peep from Republicans regarding vote by mail.
 

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The "auditing" of voter rolls is to do things that have proven to be more difficult for Democratic voters than Republican voters. The only valid audit that there should be is to see if someone has registered to vote somewhere else, has given up his citizenship, in jail, or has died. Sending a postcard (that could be "lost" in the mail, ahem) is an improper way to audit.
Republicans started this push for Voter ID laws the minute after a black guy became President. In the conservative brain there is just no way it can happen. A black guy can’t be a legitimate President because it upsets their moral hierarchy.
 

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Voter ID is just Republican suppressing the vote. What you suggested already exists; it’s called a provisional ballot. Voter ID will never be free because the intent has nothing to do with identity. Identity and eligibility are already verified at voter registration. And if identity is so important we would have to completely do away with absentee ballots. Not a peep from Republicans regarding vote by mail.
funny that is what socialists like, make ID for everyone and make voting a forced act, you can't opt out, unless you pay a fine, since where I live you are forced to vote and you have your ID with you plus know where you was supose to vote, with is told you when you register to be able to vote.

a side note, you should enver trust polls, even on my country the polls told us the winner would be the left candidate, but in the end he lost, even though I don't trust the voting system and I belive it was rigged, so even with that he lost
 

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funny that is what socialists like, make ID for everyone and make voting a forced act, you can't opt out, unless you pay a fine, since where I live you are forced to vote and you have your ID with you plus know where you was supose to vote, with is told you when you register to be able to vote.
That will never happen in the US. Republicans can only win if fewer people vote. Taxes cuts for the wealthy just isn’t a popular platform.
 

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That will never happen in the US. Republicans can only win if fewer people vote. Taxes cuts for the wealthy just isn’t a popular platform.
My undergrad was poly sci. It has been known for a long time that the greater the voter turnout, the more likely a democrat would win. That is not opinion or moral judgment, just science.
 

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Exactly. Polls are worthless. Go do polls of 100 people at the bus stop in front of the welfare office. And go do 100 in the parking lot of an NRA event. It is what it is, which is UNRELIABLE.
As a college student in poly sci classes, I was taught that polls are science and anyone who argues with them was some sort of flat earther. It was not a topic that any of my professors would even debate.

And they are somewhat correct. Statistics and sampling are science, but only if no human errors intervene to skew the result. What happened with Hillary is that the dnc put up a candidate that literally no one liked. Registered democrats knew they were supposed to like her, even if they didn't. That was the difference between telling the telephone pollster that you would vote for Hillary, versus actually going out and doing it. That was the gap in the data that made the difference in the election. I wish I could go back in time and tell this to my professors who thought I was dumb to question the accuracy of polling.
 

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Science can be as easily corrupted as polls. So your professors are full of $hit.

If someone doesn't like their "science" results, they just toss that portion of their experiment.

If someone doesn't like the polling, they oversample the favorable group.

This isn't rocket science people.
I don't see any conspiracy. If anyone got screwed, it was Hillary. She paid a ton of money to all those pollsters who told her she was going to win.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen the level of hate directed at one politician as I've seen directed at Trump.
He has earned that because of his rhetoric and treatment of other people who are not his base or who are not white.

If you punch someone in the face, and someone punches you back then the person punching you doesn't have the same level of hate say as someone stabbing you in the back because you are annoyance to them and they can get away with it. Don't you think?

Obama had more hate directed him for issues not related to his work, but because of his race.

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It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Trump lose the upcoming election. But then again, I didn't think he had any chance of winning the last one, because I had never seen the polls be so wrong in the modern era. Obviously I was dead wrong there.
You think the white supremacist corrupt USA system will allow Trump to lose an election? Police will probably make up false bogus crimes against innocent Blacks to upset the voting numbers. See if there is a spike of police harassment and arrest leading up to the election.

Danger can cry any conspiracy nonsense he wants, but if the military arm of the state, being the police force, can lock you up over made up crimes (i.e. like other dictatorship countries do), then that's worst than any conspiracy theory he can come up with as that would be a violent suppression of voting.

If you think I'm making up stuff, I'll include this article from the news about a Black lady who got locked up for 5 years for voting where she did so innocently - and ask yourself - would that happen to a white person who is voting:


Or police stopped a bus of elderly Black voters:


Again, can google search "black senior police bus removal".

See, people like Danger don't have to worry about getting arrested by the police for exercising their right to vote so he has no real right to claim there is any conspiracy theory if he doesn't have to worry about his state coming down on him for exercising his right to vote.
 

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