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This is happening more and more in recent years. Women arent genuinely single anymore.

Im coming across chics, who pursue real hard for about 3 days like theyre your G/f. then vanish when its time to make plans

can only make dates during the day, cant get a sitter (which means the boyfriends at home?every woman can get a sitter)

reply to texts at erratic times, with 1 ultra long paragraph of questions and interest

Usually find out within a month, that all along they had a B/F . and probably just had an argument that night before.

Any woman that sends me over 3 line DMs, with a little too much interest is now a major warning sign to me.

Its crazy its got like this, 15 years ago, a dating coach would have said a woman sending you paragraph good morning texts, is a good thing, :rofl:It really isnt until shes established.

Just a heads up
 

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Yeah, have experienced that too. There is this quote from Casino Royale:

Solange: You like married women, don't you, James? Bond: It keeps things simple.

I confirm it in the sense that women that are in a relationship are comfortable and feel safe, so they interact more with their environment. They are also validated and have abundance. I've learned it in the sense that when approaching a set of two girls, the one who is the most talkative has a boyfriend. My rule of thumb is that the shy/afraid/timid girl is the one that I have a chance for.

Another thing is that girls constantly test and evaluate prospects. For instance, if I go to a café (I look okay and got a leather jacket similar to Pitt's in Fight Club, I'm a modest guy.), girls with their boyfriends will check me out. The boys don't notice this, they're oblivious.

Girls with boyfriends also test me in various ways, and then return to their boyfriends. This is problematic when the boyfriend is a friend of mine, but I guess I shouldn't care so much about this turbulence, it's not my problem or my fault.

Another thing is this: it's all about attention. I've burned myself in the ways you describe many times. Girls with boyfriends can talk, flirt, bait through the whole night because then they get what they crave the most: attention. And that's why they go out more or less.

I guess this behaviour facilitates monkey branching.
 
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There is this catch 22 over text, where if you want to make plans and ask too quickly (within a few messages of saying hi) you come off too strong and they get put off but when you chat and talk rubbish for a few days before asking out they land up ghosting.
 

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Yeah, have experienced that too. There is this quote from Casino Royale:

Solange: You like married women, don't you, James? Bond: It keeps things simple.

I confirm it in the sense that women that are in a relationship are comfortable and feel safe, so they interact more with their environment. They are also validated and have abundance. I've learned it in the sense that when approaching a set of two girls, the one who is the most talkative has a boyfriend. My rule of thumb is that the shy/afraid/timid girl is the one that I have a chance for.

Another thing is that girls constantly test and evaluate prospects. For instance, if I go to a café (I look okay and got a leather jacket similar to Pitt's in Fight Club, I'm a modest guy.), girls with their boyfriends will check me out. The boys don't notice this, they're oblivious.

Girls with boyfriends also test me in various ways, and then return to their boyfriends. This is problematic when the boyfriend is a friend of mine, but I guess I shouldn't care so much about this turbulence, it's not my problem or my fault.

Another thing is this: it's all about attention. I've burned myself in the ways you describe many times. Girls with boyfriends can talk, flirt, bait through the whole night because then they get what they crave the most: attention. And that's why they go out more or less.

I guess this behaviour facilitates monkey branching.
good breakdown.

These are women in my social circle, I see them face to face, here and there.

They then start sending me ultra long DM's, I exchange about 5-7 messages, over a 48 hour period, and then attempt to close the deal.

The irony is they have sent me a good morning text, the very day they ghost.
 

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This is happening more and more in recent years. Women arent genuinely single anymore.

Im coming across chics, who pursue real hard for about 3 days like theyre your G/f. then vanish when its time to make plans

can only make dates during the day, cant get a sitter (which means the boyfriends at home?every woman can get a sitter)

reply to texts at erratic times, with 1 ultra long paragraph of questions and interest

Usually find out within a month, that all along they had a B/F . and probably just had an argument that night before.

Any woman that sends me over 3 line DMs, with a little too much interest is now a major warning sign to me.

Its crazy its got like this, 15 years ago, a dating coach would have said a woman sending you paragraph good morning texts, is a good thing, :rofl:It really isnt until shes established.

Just a heads up
Their doing the old "married bachelors" thing that men did 20 years ago.
 

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With enough experience you'd know what kind of behaviour is common towards YOU.

The same woman can behave differently for diff men.

A girl sneaks out to suck me off in my car in the middle of the night won't be doing that to every guy who talks to her.

Similarly, supermodels won't reply back to me, but might be writing paragraphs to celebrities.

Just consider any behaviour out of the ordinary towards you as a red flag but allow the encounter to continue while being cautious
 

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Yeah, have experienced that too. There is this quote from Casino Royale:

Solange: You like married women, don't you, James? Bond: It keeps things simple.

I confirm it in the sense that women that are in a relationship are comfortable and feel safe, so they interact more with their environment. They are also validated and have abundance. I've learned it in the sense that when approaching a set of two girls, the one who is the most talkative has a boyfriend. My rule of thumb is that the shy/afraid/timid girl is the one that I have a chance for.

Another thing is that girls constantly test and evaluate prospects. For instance, if I go to a café (I look okay and got a leather jacket similar to Pitt's in Fight Club, I'm a modest guy.), girls with their boyfriends will check me out. The boys don't notice this, they're oblivious.

Girls with boyfriends also test me in various ways, and then return to their boyfriends. This is problematic when the boyfriend is a friend of mine, but I guess I shouldn't care so much about this turbulence, it's not my problem or my fault.

Another thing is this: it's all about attention. I've burned myself in the ways you describe many times. Girls with boyfriends can talk, flirt, bait through the whole night because then they get what they crave the most: attention. And that's why they go out more or less.

I guess this behaviour facilitates monkey branching.
It really is all about attention. Every issue/**** up always comes back to attention. Soon as you give them it they absorb it like some alien n then vanish.

I used to read alot on here about withdrawing attention or at least being smart with it n think people had it wrong. Whereas now i see it was me in the wrong.
 

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This is happening more and more in recent years. Women arent genuinely single anymore.

Im coming across chics, who pursue real hard for about 3 days like theyre your G/f. then vanish when its time to make plans

can only make dates during the day, cant get a sitter (which means the boyfriends at home?every woman can get a sitter)

reply to texts at erratic times, with 1 ultra long paragraph of questions and interest

Usually find out within a month, that all along they had a B/F . and probably just had an argument that night before.

Any woman that sends me over 3 line DMs, with a little too much interest is now a major warning sign to me.

Its crazy its got like this, 15 years ago, a dating coach would have said a woman sending you paragraph good morning texts, is a good thing, :rofl:It really isnt until shes established.

Just a heads up
Which is why COMPLY OR BYE.

I AM not having a chat. I'm Taking my D out and beating it rotten or #next.

Act accordingly.
 

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I understand people will say "no interest" "low interest".

but then I do not appreciate a woman pursuing me aggressively, with paragraph texts, or "in detail good morning texts" only to ghost me, that very same day when Ive done nothing wrong.

These are woman I see, regularly, these arent some strangers on OLD. It leaves a pretty tasteless vibe.

It also makes no sense whatsoever because, they would have shut the convo down originally, or fizzle out messages if they didnt fancy me.

someone has told me I have too high SMV for some of the women I'm pursuing, And its sending there self esteem awol. but they like knowing they can have me. could be a fair point.
 
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