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The reason why I place intrigue higher is because it is one of the three attraction igniters (along with dominance and sexual tension). A lot of nice guys have credibility. But they act predictable, tell their whole life story to women as if they were seeking a personal therapist, are easily categorized and manipulated, aren't really much of a mystery or challenge. These are the male orbiters stuck in the friend zone. They have no attraction igniters working for them.

90% of advice from sosuave is pretty much telling them to be more intriguing/mysterious/challenging.

Once you have some attraction igniters working for you, then she will vet for credibility.

But credibility is very important as well. I've developed entire game strategies around credibility (Infiltrating social scenes, increasing your social sphere, showing up to social environments where women see me more than once, vibing with people on your wavelength, etc).

In fact, I would say that I take dominance, sexual tension, and intrigue for granted (I think it is something that should be natural, though you can certainly improve it) and I focus solely on credibility as it has been my number 1 sticking point outside of a college environment and trying to create a social life/ecosystem that constantly produces women that see me more than once.
I get your point. But isn’t a nice guy also lacking in dominance and sexual tension too? It’s hard for me to imagine a nice guy who is dominant and invokes sexual tension tbh
Yes it does and do it wrong the sexual tension and INTRIGUE WANES. Azz hat seriously? And you know this how?? How can she verify your dominance without SOCIAL BACKUUUUUUP?? please tell us how??
Your a JOKE!! Read my posts with an objective mind. Anyone knows game knows RIGHT now his order is way fvkn off.
How the hell csn a girl check your dominance without FIRST.
Seeing your friends?
Co workers?
Family?
Your daily fckn life?
The way you speak to ppl?
Give me a fckn break ppl. If you cant see the error on that post?
SEX is always first and without being an escort how is that achieved??? ??????? Hmmmm?? Guess what?
INTRIGUE...
U mad bro?
 

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To be totally honest im only worried about the females that chose me. That means we fvck. I won't play dating games either. I am your 1st choice or I'm gone.
Thats interest. Which = intrigue. Intrigue= attraction= intrigue= sexual tension.
 

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I get your point. But isn’t a nice guy also lacking in dominance and sexual tension too? It’s hard for me to imagine a nice guy who is dominant and invokes sexual tension tbh


U mad bro?
No dude just CORRECT LOL big difference. But just sayin.
Carry on my man
 

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I get your point. But isn’t a nice guy also lacking in dominance and sexual tension too? It’s hard for me to imagine a nice guy who is dominant and invokes sexual tension tbh


U mad bro?

I mean, it's not a science. It's more like a guideline. Because I have a guideline in my head that pretty much explains the entire game, I can easily diagnose a guy or even myself.

And of course, I've seen anomalies too.

In my experience, dominance and sexual tension becomes less important in closed environments. A guy who is a 6 is fvckable. Logistics and luck, aka being at the right place at the right time can get you triple digit lays.

And intrigue becomes more important when you are stuck in a phone booth with women (social circles, LTR's, etc). You want to create that space. You want to have purpose and be up to something. You want to have that trump card/ace in the hole. Then out of nowhere you surprise everyone with your greatness. Noone can ever categorize you or predict your next move.

In a large social environment, when women have choice, dominance and sexual tension comes into play more. Now that they have choice, they'll go for the guy they have sexual tension/chemistry with.

But remember, these are just generalizations. There aren't any absolutes. And someone could even experience a different reality than me.

This is just my reality/experiences based on what I look like.
 

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Ugh this guy...

No dude just CORRECT LOL big difference. But just sayin.
Carry on my man
Anyone and everyone who has extremely high social intelligence knows that women can just feel how you are. They don’t need to know you, they don’t need to talk to you, or know anything about you really. Just the way you carry yourself. Women are intuitive like that. It’s the vibe you give off. That’s why inner game is so much more important than outer. They can just read your demeanor and body language. Once you get to this level, this is where you can start breaking rules that guys like Rollo say you shouldn’t do.
 
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I mean, it's not a science. It's more like a guideline. Because I have a guideline in my head that pretty much explains the entire game, I can easily diagnose a guy or even myself.

And of course, I've seen anomalies too.

In my experience, dominance and sexual tension becomes less important in closed environments. A guy who is a 6 is fvckable. Logistics and luck, aka being at the right place at the right time can get you triple digit lays.

And intrigue becomes more important when you are stuck in a phone booth with women (social circles, LTR's, etc). You want to create that space. You want to have purpose and be up to something. You want to have that trump card/ace in the hole. Then out of nowhere you surprise everyone with your greatness. Noone can ever categorize you or predict your next move.

In a large social environment, when women have choice, dominance and sexual tension comes into play more. Now that they have choice, they'll go for the guy they have sexual tension/chemistry with.

But remember, these are just generalizations. There aren't any absolutes. And someone could even experience a different reality than me.

This is just my reality/experiences based on what I look like.
Alright yeah that’s fair.
 

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Anyone and everyone who has extremely high social intelligence knows that women can just feel how you are. They don’t need to know you, they don’t need to talk to you, or know anything about you really. Just the way you carry yourself.
Which is intrigue.

#1 and is akin to what?
Yes SEXUAL TENSION.
Romance novel shyt guys.

That masked man that swept into town.
The pale rider that just showed up.
The lone ranger. .. etccc
The examples are countless
 

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Which is intrigue.

#1 and is akin to what?
Yes SEXUAL TENSION.
Romance novel shyt guys.

That masked man that swept into town.
The pale rider that just showed up.
The lone ranger. .. etccc
The examples are countless
If you really think that these types of dudes are the top because of some sort of ‘intrigue’, you’re an idiot. Intrigue only comes into play AFTER she sees you as someone whom she’d want to ****, of which dominance is a more important factor.
 

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This is true. I know a guy who went from white girls to exclusively Asians because he thinks he discovered some holy grail. And now he’s giving away green cards for free. They don’t even pay him. He goes to Asia in hopes of a relationship, the honeymoon period is fantastic, and as soon as he marries them, they divorce. It’s been this way for almost 10 years.

And he has another trip this September in desperate need for a relationship.


In a lot of ways it seems like women are smarter than a lot of men. They will prey on your desperate need to be loved like how your mother loved you.

Just look at all the rags to riches divorces and free green cards, lol. Seems like women are the actual logical businessmen.

And men are stuck in their fantasies and one-itis

People want to convince me that women are dumb reactive machines but then I see random insta h0es becoming millionaires piggy backing off of great men.

predators, cunning predators. Not sure lesbianism/bisexuality is a good idea either. for myself I mean. So what if I have oneitis for the rest of my life for this last mate of mine recently?

For the last 7 years or so, when I first discovered women were capable of evil, I have felt true horror at our nature.

I really just view women as pieces of art. Nice to look at. The Drakes of the Mallard world, not the hens.

Stormrider's post quoted here, had me feeling nauseous because its true.
 
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predators, cunning predators. Not sure lesbianism/bisexuality is a good idea either. for myself I mean. So what if I have oneitis for the rest of my life for this last mate of mine recently?

For the last 7 years or so, when I first discovered women were capable of evil, I have felt true horror at our nature.

I really just view women as pieces of art. Nice to look at. The Drakes of the Mallard world, not the hens.

Stormrider's post quoted here, had me feeling nauseous because its true.
Which stormrider post?
 

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Intrigue only comes into play AFTER she sees you as someone whom she’d want to ****,
So Axel Rose never intrigued anyone huh? Mick Jagger? Never?
How about Lady Gaga? Never intrigued anyone?
Ever watch the movie Greese 2?
"Whos that guy"?
And your calling me an idiot. Lol
Stop before you hang yourself. Its a forum and its not worth your further embarrassment. Trust me.
 

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predators, cunning predators. Not sure lesbianism/bisexuality is a good idea either. for myself I mean. So what if I have oneitis for the rest of my life for this last mate of mine recently?

For the last 7 years or so, when I first discovered women were capable of evil, I have felt true horror at our nature.

I really just view women as pieces of art. Nice to look at. The Drakes of the Mallard world, not the hens.

Stormrider's post quoted here, had me feeling nauseous because its true.
Black pill whiner post who is me crap. Learn how to select and hace standards. Very argument SPAZ had with him.
 

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So Axel Rose never intrigued anyone huh? Mick Jagger? Never?
How about Lady Gaga? Never intrigued anyone?
Ever watch the movie Greese 2?
"Whos that guy"?
And your calling me an idiot. Lol
Stop before you hang yourself. Its a forum and its not worth your further embarrassment. Trust me.
Let me educate your ignorant ass:

Those people have social DOMINANCE. Without it, all that ‘intrigue’ is meaningless. Now go back to your corner.
 

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Let me educate your ignorant ass:

Those people have social DOMINANCE. Without it, all that ‘intrigue’ is meaningless. Now go back to your corner.
Weak af
So Axel Rose jamming for 5 ppl versus 50 when he started out meant what? Social dominance or intrigue?
INTRIGUE to who? Maybe a record label??
Idiot
Try not to just view him as a mega star. Whos corner??
Your pathetic. I have to work in the AM. Enough of this retardation.
 
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Which stormrider post?
the one starting my post above yours with this question.
stormrider's name is in orange and there's an orange line along the left margin. Orange directions to "click to expand..." near bottom of what's visible of his quoted post as all this appears on my mobile browser
 

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Black pill whiner post who is me crap. *This is me stringpuller. I resemble this statement after looking up what black pill means exactly.* Learn how to select and hace standards.

* Had to look up another word: hace. Maybe this was a typo, but lo and behold, its a word that actually applies to me. I grew up at 95m above sea level altitude, now living at > 500m above sea level.*

Very argument SPAZ had with him.


*I haven't argued with anyone here. Too valuable a resource in SS to be disrespectful. I wish this was a university course/program.

I was 'nkaf' user name last year, not 'lynx'. That's some dude from the past I guess, who doesn't contribute, that you might be thinking argued with SPAZ or maybe you meant stormrider.*
 

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So Axel Rose jamming for 5 ppl versus 50 when he started out meant what? Social dominance or intrigue?
INTRIGUE to who? Maybe a record label??
Idiot
Try not to just view him as a mega star. Whos corner??
Your pathetic. I have to work in the AM. Enough of this retardation.
Looks like your dementia is setting in already.

The traits the gave him the ability to persevere (ambition, motivation, discipline, drive), theses are all traits of a dominant person you dumbass. A fkn crackhead has intrigue to an extent. Doesn’t mean people care to ask them about their stories though. You’re an idiot. You just got **** on again like I said you would. But come on, keep it going. Let’s see how long you can go head-to-head against me. When a dude is still reading Rollo as if he is the be-all and end-all, it means he’s still got the training wheels on and doesn’t have enough social experience yet.
 

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I thought about what you said earlier, and you might have a point. It seems as if Dominance can exist without intrigue but intrigue cannot exist without dominance. At least in terms of attraction.

You need some type of dominance/sexual tension for women to be intrigued in the first place. A guy who is dominant in any field will have women intrigued.

However, you can be so dominant and have zero intrigue and it would not matter (popular dumb guys with no personality who still clean up).

By all accounts, dominance is always number 1. It’s the primordial masculine force that drives you to attain power.

This is the reason why “being a challenge” or “ghosting” is completely useless if she doesn’t ALREADY see you as high value (dominance/sexual tension). You can try to create all the intrigue you want but you’d just end up doing her a favor by leaving her alone.

If anything, intrigue is more like the icing on the cake. Intrigue can set you apart from other dominant guys. Like between two popular guys, who’s more interesting? But without the popularity, nobody cares about how interesting you are.
 
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I thought about what you said earlier, and you might have a point. It seems as if Dominance can exist without intrigue but intrigue cannot exist without dominance. At least in terms of attraction.

You need some type of dominance/sexual tension for women to be intrigued in the first place. A guy who is dominant in any field will have women intrigued.

However, you can be so dominant and have zero intrigue and it would not matter (popular dumb guys with no personality who still clean up).

By all accounts, dominance is always number 1. It’s the primordial masculine force that drives you to attain power.

This is the reason why “being a challenge” or “ghosting” is completely useless if she doesn’t ALREADY see you as high value (dominance/sexual tension). You can try to create all the intrigue you want but you’d just end up doing her a favor by leaving her alone.

If anything, intrigue sets you apart from other dominant guys. Like between two popular guys, who’s more interesting? But without the popularity, nobody cares about how interesting you are.
This has been my point. It’s basically just the icing on the cake, not the actual cake itself.
 
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