The Three Tier Effect.

[CapiCrimini]

Okay since you thought my post was too long... I'm cutting it down to this... the actual post I'll repost below...

Instead of reading guides on how to become somehting your not... find your inner-strength and make it work for you, instead of trying to become something your not... If your a good story-teller, work on that... but only do minimal work on clothing if thats your weakness... Focus on your strength and make it the best you can... and just do damage control on your weakness'

that should sum it up in a nutshell...

 

[AFK Protector]

I disagree. Sounds like you've adopted some Calvinism and his predestination theory into your post. Guess what? Calvin was wrong....or just extremely pessimistic.

You CAN change your future.

You CAN change your "destiny."

You can do whatever you put your mind and will to.

You said that it would take "extreme amounts of energy" to change, and to just "accept your role . . . not everyone can be an alpha male."

Once again, I disagree. Go open your eyes and read "why life isn't fair" by A-Unit. LIFE ISN'T FAIR SO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO MAKE IT FAIR. YOU MUST STRIVE TO BE THE BEST. IF YOU DON'T TRY, YOU WILL NEVER BE YOUR BEST. DO NOT SETTLE FOR SECOND PLACE.

C'mon Capi, you're undermining the REAL DJ system here. If everyone COULD be #1, an alpha, or President, then becoming it would not be an accomplisment. Another thing would replace it as #1, or alpha. Understand? Good

Please do not listen to this pointless, albeit long post. We all know the steps, although what I pointed out nulls your first step. I will revise it for you:

Accept who you are currently, and who you were in the past, for that cannot be changed. Then find out what is wrong and improve on it, to become what you want to be, strive to be, should be:

#1

 

[DiSt0rTi0n_07]

I think AFC is right, u gotta want to become. You can't change the past but if you have the will to do so you can change the future.

All aspiring DJs should note this:

You MUST WANT TO. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING BAD ENOUGH, you can achieve it. If you approach a HB and get shut down and quit altogether then you obviously don't want it bad enough.

You are in control of your future so if your goal is to learn to attract women, read the DJ bible and some field posts in the discussion and practice approaches.

Just remember, practice only makes perfect if you are practicing the right way. (So don't go practicing how well you can compliment a HB ok?)

Good luck to all aspiring DJs! <-- This includes me too, im still a rookie

 

[AFK Protector]

Yes, Distortian emphasizes on the immense power of human will. Isn't the whole point of this site to guide you along in the process of becoming your personal best?

btw, it's AFK Protector, not AFC. AFCs don't need protectors.

Anyways, Distortion is a concise, to the point man. I kinda went on for a while

 

[DiSt0rTi0n_07]

Man, I am so tired right now, I completely meant to put AFK

NOT AFC

Sry bout that. On this kinda site when something looks the same as something else the fingers just put it down.

And yes, this site is about being your personal best.

I do have to disagree with 1 thing tho: AFCs need to be protected from themselves.

 

[CapiCrimini]

You CAN change your future.

You CAN change your "destiny."

I said you could... but here's also what I said... and is known in science...

After your brain settles each persons brain is set for different area's...

say some people are good at creating idea's some are good at making those idea's come to life and happen... instead of looking at where you are and saying...

Hey I always come up with idea's... but "Brian" is always making those idea's come to life...

After hours of books manuals and such... You finally can follow through with idea's... but that process to re-write your brain to think another way sapped tons of your energy and time you could have spent using how your brain worked already to be beneficial...

I'm saying accept who you are and use it to your benifit instead of spending hours applying techniques and memorizing in order to re-write the way you think

You MUST WANT TO. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING BAD ENOUGH, you can achieve it

I never said you couldn't do that in my post...? I know you have to want something... without motivation and drive you won't start....

Once again, I disagree. Go open your eyes and read "why life isn't fair" by A-Unit. LIFE ISN'T FAIR SO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO MAKE IT FAIR. YOU MUST STRIVE TO BE THE BEST. IF YOU DON'T TRY, YOU WILL NEVER BE YOUR BEST. DO NOT SETTLE FOR SECOND PLACE.

You don't understand... Look at it this way...

If every wolf in a pack was a leader and alpha... THEN THERE WOULD BE NO ALPHA...

BECAUSE... in order for there to be an alpha there needs to be a BETA... meaning not everyone can be the PRESIDENT... same though applies...

LIFE ISN'T FAIR SO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO MAKE IT FAIR.

LIFE IS FAIR... because life isn't fair to anyone... It's all chance... unless you believe in Determinalisitc universe...still just another type of chance....

But people who say life isn't fair are the same people who get mad at a roulette wheel... there's no basis behind it... chance is chance...

C'mon Capi, you're undermining the REAL DJ system here. If everyone COULD be #1, an alpha, or President, then becoming it would not be an accomplisment. Another thing would replace it as #1, or alpha. Understand? Good

WHOA... you just flipped on your whole argument in one post. You just disagreed with me then totally agreed with me...

In a nutshell my whole post was...

Find What works for you and make it work instead of focusing on something else and trying to change...

Thank you for your thoughts... thought I do think my post was good and simplified... I said nothing new and nothing that wasn't in the DJbible... just simplified it a bit....

 

[CapiCrimini]

Here's the original post ---- Of rthe few that actuall care.

Now here is a simple guide for AFC's(Average frustrated Chumps) to DJism...

Now...in real life there is a three tier effect...

The First Tier...
Conscienceness~ This is where the Average AFC will wish to be...

In this tier lies all the wants of man... Shrinks call this the Super-Ego... we put all our hopes and dreams in this... What We want to be... The Movie-Star Self...The good-looking suave self.

The Sencond Tier
Society, Right, Wrong~ This is where the Average AFC will lies...

This is the part of us that determines what is right and wrong... the fear of going up to women... The fear of aproach and our own sexuality... this part keeps us away from tier-3... it is the great wall infront of it...

The Third Tier
Nature~ this is where the nature of man will lie...

This is where the testosterone ridden man lies... the one who feels an urge and acts on it... He thinks then acts... there are no rules... no thoughts... just needs... if he is hungry he eats... Thirsty he Drinks...



How To become a DJ

where most people fail in DJism or even in just getting a date... is that they reach for the first tier...

They create the superficial... they try to become a James Bond, to be suave... keep in mind that any of these tiers will get you a women... the worst AFC can get a women... chance is with him... DJism is not about getting the chick... its about improving your life and giving you the choices and happyness you deserve... to get you out of your frustrated loop of a lifestyle you are already in, that relion, society, or women have already drivin you into... not all Dj's are player, though not all DJ's arn't players... becoming a DJ is becoming a happy individual with the choice to choice and control your lfie the way YOU want it...

So if reaching to become the superstar isn't the way what is the way...

Going down... this is where people lose it... They start in the middle, they take short cuts...they try to project what they arn't

To become a good DJ you must understand your third-tier... you must learn to act on your urges... to listen to your inner animal... What would happen if you didn't drink or eat when you were hungry or thirsty...

YOU WOULD DIE

So you need to learn to understand your inner testosterone self...

After a man reaches the age of 16 his brain tends to be stuck in it's role... you can change your mindset... but to do so uses giant masses of your bodies energy... So why not instead of wasting your energy accept your role... and live with it... if your not an Alpha-Male accept this... Not everyone can be...

Don't Cry Over Life, Laugh over it.

You see your brain sets up its sytem so when you do something your ment for... you get a signal of bliss... thats why someone who draws a cartoon like peanuts for 60's odd years doesn't get tired of it... because every time he does it, everytime he draws the cartoon he feels good because his brain enjoys it, because after he was born thats the way his brain was set up...

If he would have been a star football player... he might have had fame... and money, but he wouldn't have ENJOYED IT...

so if you try to become an alpha and DON'T ENJOY IT... don't fret... find the level where you are comfortable at...

On the other hand... don't settle because of fear... If you settle down your NOT HAPPY.....if your not happy, and you don't get the feeling of bliss every time your not doing the right thing...

This is the basics of the level... This is the sencond step of becoming a DJ...

you must find your place between nice-guy and jerk... to find this place... most people either undershoot and become a SAFC(super-AFC) or try to be a PUA(pick-up artist) the problem with this is, not everyone is a PUA. or SAFC... infact most everyone is in the middle... so the steps to DJism so far are...

I. Imbrace your 3rd-tier, and learn what your urges are and follow them...

II. Learn the balance between the 2nd-tier and 3rd-tier... or Nice-Guy and Jerk....The Point where you find Happyness and ENJOY LIFE

Now Step three is the hardest step of all... most people can accoplish step one and two easily with time and trial and error...

So what is this third step.... the third step is... there is no third step....

At face-value this seems like a piss in the face... but look closer...

The truth of what I just told you, and what any DJBible can tell you is nothing... there is no "SECRET" behind women... there are no rules... The only rules are the ones that we set up...the only walls those we build with our own hands... the only barriers those we create in our own mind....

In reality the only reson there is a step two is because society made one... and society is nothing more then us...

In nature there was only tier-3... Mate... and survive...

But if you went and just humped every women that you saw... you'd get some nasty lawsuits and some slaps in the face... a few good nights though too.

but thats how the cave-man survived...

but with the brake of modern society the same game applied, just with a "game" involved... But that "game" really doesn't exist unless you allow it too...

But in reality there is nothing you didn't already know on some subconscience level...

A girl doesn't care if your the best poet in the world, or if your a god made of pure-toned muscles... She wants and feels the same things you do... bleeds the same blood as you...

You already knew everything I told you... It's always been inside of you and every man on earth... but some people don't listen... and some don't act....

So today is the day you do both....

Abeeda.
Capi
Abeeda.com

A women Loves you or she Hates you, there's no other choice
Aut amat aut odit mulier; nihil est tertium
Syrus, Maxims

Show me a lover with self-control, and I'll show you his weight in gold!
Auro contra cedo modestum amatorem, a me aurum accipe.
Plautus, Curculio, 201

Every Love dies when a new one comes along
Successore novo vicitur omnis amor
Ovid, Remedia Amoris, 343

For Heaven's sake, why are you and cheerfulness complete strangers?
Quid, cedo, te obserco tam abhorret hilaritudo
PlautusCistellaria, 54

I am what you will be
Quod sum eris
Roman Tombstone

Capi
Abeeda.com

Please excuse my typos...

 

[Frankie]

I like your condensed post. Of course, you must realize that you're posting it on a forum where the consensus is that everyone has to completely reinvent themselves in order to be successful, so you shouldn't be surprised that your advice falls on deaf ears.

For the original three-tier theory, though, I think you should get a grip. Freud was nothing more than a coke-snorting wacko who knew how to package his ideas in an attractive light. Serious modern psychologists would agree with me. The idea of superego/ego/id is nothing more than fiction.

The value of the advice is simple: get in touch with your inner man. This over-analysis doesn't add any value, even if it were true.

 

[ToughGuy]

I agree with AFK

I AGree with the AFK Pro.
I have been a nut case in terms of women.
Though i haven't become much DJ, But my interaction with women has improved drastically.
Reason being i spend my whole saturday night and sunday nights to read posts here and the BIBLE.

My nights of hardwork has started to work for me.
And i am so eager to learn and grasp to every thing.

Thanks to site and all the Guides here.

YOu can become if you want it badly.
even the alpha male too.

 

[AFK Protector]

No Mr. Capi. I believe it is you who doesn't understand. Let me clarify:

If everyone was granted alpha traits, then being alpha would NOT be special. The thing is, it is very difficult, but not impossible for people to become alpha. Only the select few who realize their hidden potential become alpha and rule society. They're the ones who work hard. They are not satisfied with the place society attempts to chain them in. They're our future, the leaders of tomorrow.

Please go read A-Unit's post titled, "Why Life Isn't Fair." It will all become clear by then.

Yeah...my argument was pretty consistent, although misinterpretations could have confused ya.

cheers,

AFK

 

[MrBond_Age]

Originally posted by CapiCrimini
creating idea's some are good at making those idea's come to life and happen... instead of looking at where you are and saying...

Hey I always come up with idea's... but "Brian" is always making those idea's come to life...

After hours of books manuals and such... You finally can follow through with idea's... but that process to re-write your brain to think another way sapped tons of your energy and time you could have spent using how your brain worked already to be beneficial...

Im studying psychology and I have to call bull****.

 

[AFK Protector]

Dude, Capi you're lazy, and you're going to give up soon. Fight against the urge man. This is an uphill battle, and if you lose your footing, get your ass back up and sprint up the fvckin hill. Don't fall and drag all the other guys next to you climbing down with you.

Cheers,

AFK

 

[CapiCrimini]

If everyone was granted alpha traits, then being alpha would NOT be special. The thing is, it is very difficult, but not impossible for people to become alpha. Only the select few who realize their hidden potential become alpha and rule society. They're the ones who work hard. They are not satisfied with the place society attempts to chain them in. They're our future, the leaders of tomorrow.

Exactly... "it is very difficult"... so instead of becoming a generic DJ... why not take the things that already work for you and use them to your advantage... that was my point... instead of starting over from scratch... improve what you do wrong and make what you do right perfect.

To Frankie:
I understand Frued was a crackpot... but just because someone is a crackpot doensn't mean his idea's can't be used to explain things...

Im studying psychology and I have to call bull****

well thats great... but psychology is differenct from neuroscience...

Fight against the urge man.

what urge?

get your ass back up and sprint up the fvckin hill. Don't fall and drag all the other guys next to you climbing down with you.

I am sprinting uphill my friend... keep in mind there is more then one path uphill...

Just because one path doesn't work for you doesn't mean it can't work for someone else... This route has worked for me...

Improve my strengths and do damage control on my weakness'... and most other paths like re-creating myself like most DJ's say... doesn't work for me as well... I've tried it...

Have you tried my way? or do you just assume by reading it that it's not what all the DJ's on this board say so it must be Jack****...

 

[MrBond_Age]

Originally posted by CapiCrimini
well thats great... but psychology is differenct from neuroscience...

You know a lot about nothing and nothing about a lot dont you?

I have to call bull**** again.

There are different school of thoughts in psychology:

-Those whom beleive the unconscious governs you.
-Those whom beleive you are your own master and can change yourself.
-Those whom beleive your brain patterns and genes are responsible for your actions (surprise surprise)
-Those whom beleive your own perceptions of the world governs you.
-Those whom beleive in beaviorism

There are others but those are the main ones.

 

[CapiCrimini]

Once again I wasn't talking about neuroscience... to simply put it... It's a known fact that your brain trims itself down as you grow older... that parts of it die...

When your born your brain is the biggest... am I right? So you absorb tons of information as you grow...

As you grow more and more of your brain dies... So the information you absorb is trimmed like a hedge...

Most people look at this as a negative... but instead people don't realize nature does this for a purpose...

Imagine being in the Library of Congress... your overwhelmed if you try to look through all the boks at once...

So your brain begins to cut down on all the books so that you have books related to one category... now your not overwhelmed but you know mainly about one category and can sum that information quickly... you have other categories too but since you have less information... doing things tailored to that category is easiest and the best for you... as you grow older the more true that becomes...

YOU CAN... with a lot of work change what categories you have in your head... but why do that? Why not take what categories you have and make them work to your advantage... instead of crying over what you don't have and always trying to change yourself....

This really doesn't have anything to do with psycology MrBond any more then anything else...

I don't believe your brain governs you but more a mix of the schools of thought you presented....

 

[MrBond_Age]

Capri, you have a weird concept of how a brain works. Your neurons arent put together to form a "library". In fact, each neuron can be connected to up to 10 000 other neurons. They arent stacked together like the bytes in a computer when you defrag it to put the data of a same topic together. A single neuron can work for various concepts and thoughts at the same time.

Parts of your brain do die but its not trimming information you do not use often. When you do not remember something for a long time, the link made between some neurons will disapear and weaken but the neurons are still there. Each day, you loose somewhere around 1k neurons independently of how bad you needed them or not.

Corellation doesnt always imply causality. While it is true that the older you get, the less you can learn new things and therefore, the more specialized you are into what you were already doing, it doesnt mean that the brain trimmed parts of informations.

Your brain capacity is also theorically limitless wih means you can create as much "categories" or assosciations as you like. You arent really depleating a given number of neurons each time you learn something.

Capri, you shoudnt have seen the movie "The dream catcher".

 

[CapiCrimini]

"The dream catcher".

Actually I've never seen it...

I understand the brain doesn't exactly trim for that reason... but it ends up that way...

Because the more you realize and do somehting the deeper the connection is...

For example... you have 100 neurons working in order to recognize someones face...

After years of not seeing that person the neurons fade into 25... you can still remember that person because you still have 25 neurons dedicated to remembering that person...

When that counter hits 0 you lose all ability to recognize that person... when this counter gets low in a lot of areas is also when alzymers comes in... Right?

So the more you do something the better the connection... meaning as a child you might have played with lego's a lot, so now you have tons of neurons working to figure out how to build things... correct...

So when you get older those nuerons fade if you don't use them... but if you do use them they get srtonger as you add more connections...

So when you try to learn something new as you get older... you lose that information because you use other connections instead...

But these base connections that are stonger because there are more... start to wekaen...

this whole process takes lots of energy, which means learning all this new stuff takes your energy that you could be out using the old stuff in a beneficial way.

So in the main theme of this... if you use what you already have you waste less time and energy then learning to do something new... so if you can take a AFC connection you already have and turn it into a DJ connection it will work a lot better then wasting time to create a whole new DJ perception and scrapping everything AFC...

Not to say you shouldn't learn something new... but instead of trying to be well rounded... why not be great in a couple of categories... almost perfect... and get by in other categories.. instead of being just average in all categories

 

[CapiCrimini]

For example... say you arn't great at approaching. but once you start talking you always capitvate people... instead of putting all your energy into learning to be better at cold approaches... put a little effort into approach to the point where you can do it good enough to get by... but rely on the actual talking after the approach... and work harder on making that even better.

 

[CapiCrimini]

Postremo nemo aegrotus quidquam aomniat tam infandum, quod non aliquis dictat philosophus.
Varro,Fragmenta

 

[hardwork]

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Capi,

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