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The Myth of Chad (Who Has a Thousand Lays)

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I was reading your posts in other threads , and found quite interesting your line of thoughts

can you please expand more this part about what is the female nature in what you were referring in the quote above ?
Females nature is dualistic. They have a desire for comfort and provisioning, and a desire to be ravaged and treated mean by a bad boy alpha. They struggle to find these qualities in 1 man, so they typically find a beta to pay for her sh!t and orbit her, while she gets impregnated by the alpha (ideally getting the beta to raise the kid, because they alpha doesn't stick around).

The issue for most men today is women get provisioning and comfort from the government, who is essentially the giant beta provider of all women. This means that beta males are now redundant.

Women have comfort and provisioning from daddy government, so they are only really interested in alpha fux today. Alpha fux are basically men who are mean to them, but in an attractive way. Basically a loveable a$$hole.
 
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from what I know , top level players are around 30-40 girls a year . And this guys mainly only do this

there ofc , really successful guys out there that have a higher notch count per year , but this is not necessarily because they are really good with women , but because fame plays a high role in this equation

I would say that the chad myth is exaggerated , but for sure they do exist
You'll never know how many men a true Chad beds in a year, because the most effective playboys hide their numbers. Being known by women as a guy who sleeps with a lot of women puts them on red alert, and the slvt shield comes up. They are attracted to it pre-selection, but they are also attracted to a guy who is discreet.

I think that past a certain point it's actually very counter-productive to be known as a guy who is highly successful with women.
 

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Females nature is dualistic. They have a desire for comfort and provisioning, and a desire to be ravaged and treated mean by a bad boy alpha. They struggle to find these qualities in 1 man, so they typically find a beta to pay for her sh!t and orbit her, while she gets impregnated by the alpha (ideally getting the beta to raise the kid, because they alpha doesn't stick around).

The issue for most men today is women get provisioning and comfort from the government, who is essentially the giant beta provider of all women. This means that beta males are now redundant.

Women have comfort and provisioning from daddy government, so they are only really interested in alpha fux today. Alpha fux are basically men who are mean to them, but in an attractive way. Basically a loveable a$$hole.
Nice points.

And that why men should NEVER commit.
 

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did you really need to 'learn' this stuff, though?
Like, most people who have been properly socialised already know how to hold eye contact or that saying 'hi' to a stranger can open a convo and everything else in PUA books. (normal people tend to tease and 'neg' from time to time, ask questions, flirt when a girl is receptive etc)
I've always slightly internally cringed when people say 'just learn game, bro'. I think it can give newbies the idea that saying some words can make a girl attracted to you when you're just not her type when in truth, there's nothing you could say or do to make her sexually attracted
Yes. I wasn’t a loser in hs but hooking up
With girls terrified me because of blue pulled beliefs (got to have looks money status to get girls). I can talk to them normal but getting sexual with them? No. Then I read book of pook and learned to
Become more dominant at 17. This led me down a rabbit hole that I don’t need to live how others want me to live. I can create my own life and write my own ticket in life. Now I see the “naturals” ALWAYS beinf broken up with first. I know what’s going on socially.
In fact now I CRINGE when people don’t study this stuff. Just as how people don’t study working out properly and always think they know what they are doing, they will get outpaced by those that study and learn. The greatest arrogance is thinking you “get it”. It’s called social SKILLS for a reason
 

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On one end of this conversation there's racking lays as a means of being validated as "chad".

On the other end is focus on your purpose self improvement to becoming "chad".

In my opinion, it's a balance.

Getting girls is a numbers game.

Probability. Math. Basic stuff really.

A better life and purpose enhances our probability to get laid more.

Our game and approaches gives the women an opportunity to experience it.

One lacking region would drag the other down to.

It's a sport. Take it easy.
 

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A man's "job" i.e. Doctor, NFL player etc. is just social proof - it's Transactional Sex.

Why does a woman like a Doctor or an NFL player? Money and provisioning. This is beta comfort stuff.

Also, many NFL players and Doctors have weak game. They purely rely on Provider Game. "Want to fvck, baby? I'm a Doctor. I'll take you on a holiday to Dubai, please gimme your pvssy"

All you need to do is look at Jeff Bezo's text messages to his mistress to see how high-status men Game women. It's pathetic, entitlement-style "bang me because I'm rich and trade me your pvssy for a holiday" Game. It's Transactional Sex.
Both right. Doing the work to become top level man gets the bombshell dime and so does running flawless game-more than 10, 000 hours has to be put in on running flawless game....doing work to become top level man? at leeeeaassst 10,000 hours typically but probably 15 years or morethough.
 

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Yes. I wasn’t a loser in hs but hooking up
With girls terrified me because of blue pulled beliefs (got to have looks money status to get girls). I can talk to them normal but getting sexual with them? No. Then I read book of pook and learned to
Become more dominant at 17. This led me down a rabbit hole that I don’t need to live how others want me to live. I can create my own life and write my own ticket in life. Now I see the “naturals” ALWAYS beinf broken up with first. I know what’s going on socially.
In fact now I CRINGE when people don’t study this stuff. Just as how people don’t study working out properly and always think they know what they are doing, they will get outpaced by those that study and learn. The greatest arrogance is thinking you “get it”. It’s called social SKILLS for a reason
yeah, I can definitely see how if someone was autstic and stuff they'd need to 'learn' what's in PUA books (learn to hold eye contact and not speak monotone etc), but I remember getting into this years ago, and never read anything I wasn't already aware of in the various books and courses, tbh. Was a bit like reading books about how to tie my laces which I already knew, but for a while has you second guessing and over-analysing how you've been tieing your laces all this time lol

I realised 'game' is really just about not completely screwing yourself over and doing stupid **** and losing girls who thought you were hot who you would have banged if you didn't mess it up and tell them you love them on the first date or whatever! haha.
 

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even at night? I've not seen my chad friends get approached in the day time (huge IOI's of course, though) but at night time it's a very regular thing. I'd say maybe 5 times per night?? (typically girls pretending to recognsise him or just a flirty comment etc)
Nope, never saw my friend get approached by a woman. However, I think his height helped reduce resistance and make his approaches more likely to be well received.
 

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yeah, I can definitely see how if someone was autistic and stuff they'd need to 'learn' what's in PUA books (learn to hold eye contact and not speak monotone etc)
for me, and judging by lordeterra's response about getting sexual with them, it wasn't that stuff we learned from PUA books, but in how (and when (like the window of opportunity thing)) to make it happen. In high school I did talk to girls, held eye contact, made them laugh, i instinctively knew which girls liked me, etc yet i didn't know how to lead it to a bang (part scared/part being satisfied with the validation cuz a part of me thought I'd never bang them anyway? too long ago don't remember) what PUA did is rewire our brains to view girls the same way naturals viewed them. and so therefore gave us the courage through some techniques to make it happen with them.
 

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Notice that absolutely no one aside from myself and one other person has any specific figures of lay counts of these mythical "chads." Yeah, it's 1 to 2 a month, and that's very rarely long term.
 

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Pretending the mythical Chad exists makes men feel better when they get shot down by women. Recent statistics show more and more people are sexless. Only legitimate celebrities can take down multiple women weekly for a sustained period. It's very risky though.
 

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Its been my experience that women seduce themselves.
In my experience a guy can do all the kino and touching and sexual innuendos he wants, but it won’t help. When a girl has wanted to have sex with me, she’s made it loud and clear, there were no signals to read or pick up on. That’s why I have always felt like kino and “being comfortable with your sexuality” is overrated. When a woman has wanted me she couldn’t keep her hands off of me, even if I hadn’t flirted with her yet.
 

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In my experience a guy can do all the kino and touching and sexual innuendos he wants, but it won’t help
if you're saying what I think you're saying (that all the PUA tricks aren't gonna help you seduce a girl who doesn't want to be seduced by you) then that's been my experience too.
Don't think I can link sites here, but been reading 'seddit' (seduction on reddit) recently and there's always interesting debates about that. It seems over there the community have also largely come to the conclusion that it's not possible although there's always maybe 1 or 2 posters who claim they can do it and essentially 'attract' and bang basically any girl they want
 

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Men absolutely HATE hearing about other men's sexual success with women, particularly if they themselves are struggling.
I disagree, a lot of us look up to Chads and want to become one ourselves. That's the whole reason a lot of us even got into game in the first place.

I'm FAR more impressed by guys who are NOT 'chads', not rich or famous, not classically good looking etc, but who manage to get lots of girls by learning the principles of seduction then going out into the world, approaching women and succeeding against the odds.
It always inspires me when i see that sort of thing, especially when it's a shorter guy with a tall good looking girl.
 

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Chad is just the idea of the upper limit of options available, you can be a 5 foot Chad depending on the men around you
 

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The vast, vast majority of men aren’t jealous of ‘Chad’ success with women. Most seem awed or congratulatory. Don’t underestimate the Halo Effect. It is real. Most GL men are liked not just by women, but by men too. Unless you’re poaching on a guy’s girl, being a GL guy won’t get much negativity. Unless you’re an A-hole.

And it’s not ‘Chads’ keeping things on the qt or not. Men know which men do well with women. Women make it plain whom they are attracted to and shower attention on those men. And men know if men are GL or not.
 
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Betas are always impressed by Chads’ big, impressive figures.
10,000 one night stands is just 10,000 women that didn’t want to have sex with you again. Great job.
Stop moaning about the guys who f*ck all the great women and go get yourself a pretty girlfriend who is nice, successful, not insecure, and good at sex. Women love Chads, but they don’t date them.
 

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The Chad thing is interesting because it allows you to see a side of women that you normally wouldn’t see. If you only hung out with normies and never saw any Chads or Chadlites in the field, you would assume that women aren’t really that interested in sex, and they almost never approach men.

TLDR: Women do a very good job hiding their true nature when no Chads/Chadlites are around.
 
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