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The Facts on Car Accident Deaths and COVID-19

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also note since last election most country do tend to go for more right wing, since the socialism is finally showing reasults aka more people poor and politician living like kings, I wonder how will be the whole agenda in the next election.

since people love to belive on the news, I read in a news, then Italy is overfloating they covid19 deaths, by marking anyone who died during this time, as victim of covid, don't matter if your wife beat you to dead, or if you shot you head, the dead certificate will be marked covid19 as cause of dead
Not sure what reality you are living in, maybe listening to a lot of extreme right-wing radio?

With Trump's election, tax cuts, stock market 'Trump Bump', hollowing out Obamacare, this administration has not show any evidence of enacting any socialistic policies.
 

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They can handle it today (3/27/2020). Can you make a prediction it will stay that way for the next few weeks?
You seem to be wanting to look at the worst possible side, no matter what the situation. Which is okay, we have people on both sides here. I agree it's a bad situation, and the health care system probably will get overwhelmed at some point. But there are positives to look at too. The death rate in the US has been much lower so far than was predicted. Isn't that something to be happy about?

By the way, I think the US health system has done a fantastic job dealing with this so far. Nothing's perfect, and I don't expect it to be. I'm not really an empathic person, but I feel for the health workers who are on the front lines of this. Last time I was in the grocery store, I thought even the grocery workers looked exhausted. Then other occupations are totally out of work. It's a mixed bag out there.
 

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Haha @Bible_Belt!

You said there were 64,000 deaths in Italy days ago.

Yet here we are today, currently sitting at: 9,134

Ever heard the story of Chicken Little?
Like I said before, when you are dying a slow and miserable death, please do keep a journal for us. It would help everyone.
 

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Like I said before, when you are dying a slow and miserable death, please do keep a journal for us. It would help everyone.
I've already had; so, I'm immune. I'll keep notes while everyone else cowers, panics, loots, and riots, though.
 
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Not sure what reality you are living in, maybe listening to a lot of extreme right-wing radio?

With Trump's election, tax cuts, stock market 'Trump Bump', hollowing out Obamacare, this administration has not show any evidence of enacting any socialistic policies.
what I meantion was last mandate in msot world wide, and not I read most neutral some right and some left(with is for cringe or laught but I still read), also note I don't live on US, I menation US data here beecause most is from US so I tend to keep things in view, to make my point cross.

like everything in so suave you need to adapt to your culture and check the regions, to see what is norm and what is not.

example why in japan no one cares to mention sh!t? why after the whole one single church in south korea was responsable for half of the covid cases we don't hear adnything else? its don't fit the histeria since they are controled in this places
 

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Like I said before, when you are dying a slow and miserable death, please do keep a journal for us. It would help everyone.
why are you over 60 or have any health problems we should know of?

500k dead worldwide for the 2009 CCP Swine Flu outbreak.
with came from china, spanish flu, even if the name is kinda misleading is belived come from china too, so pretty much dead will come from china, but not from they goverment (or maybe its because of they goverment)
 

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Now I know what William Wallace must have felt like, when confronting the nobles; promoting success to those whose minds are seeped in their doubts and fears of death and loss.
 

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Now I know what William Wallace must have felt like, when confronting the nobles; promoting success to those whose minds are seeped in their doubts and fears of death and loss.
Yes, he most likely was not able to have a debate or productive conversations with those that did not hear, refused to consider facts, or another point of view outside their own…
 

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You seem to be wanting to look at the worst possible side, no matter what the situation. Which is okay, we have people on both sides here. I agree it's a bad situation, and the health care system probably will get overwhelmed at some point. But there are positives to look at too. The death rate in the US has been much lower so far than was predicted. Isn't that something to be happy about?
Correct. When I hear 2-18 months to overcome this pandemic, the realist in me says "prepare for it to last 18 months." I don't operate on hope; I operate on facts. So when I hear the country will be open by Easter, it sounds exactly like the bullshvt that it is.

Let's talk positives when we actually make it to the other side of this virus. Until then, why should we give a pat on the ass for an outbreak that is still growing exponentially as we speak?

By the way, I think the US health system has done a fantastic job dealing with this so far. Nothing's perfect, and I don't expect it to be. I'm not really an empathic person, but I feel for the health workers who are on the front lines of this. Last time I was in the grocery store, I thought even the grocery workers looked exhausted. Then other occupations are totally out of work. It's a mixed bag out there.
The U.S. health system has barely been tested. Over half of all confirmed U.S. cases are in Metro-NYC thus far. If anything, it's a reflection on those of us that live in this area. We have been dealing with this with no help from the Federal government. I believe our hospital ship and a handful of ventilators should be arriving soon.
 
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You might as well be arguing with a woman.
This is off-topic, but your response triggered a thought...

In all arguments, doesn't someone instigate in the wrong, while the recipient often retaliates in the wrong, correct?

Now we're both in the wrong.

In arguments with women, who is usually the instigator and who is the retaliator -- the man or the woman?

And most importantly, do you think it's possible for both parties to accept and take responsibility for who started it and then for who continues it, with the aim of reconciling and re-establishing Peace and Harmony -- or would you consider that delusional thinking not based in reality, according to the facts of Woman's Nature?
 
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You lost again. Here comes the personal attacks.
Lost? Lost what? You're emotional and unresponsive. You want to prove me wrong, then start addressing arguments, instead of just sniping(as you did in the Kung Flu thread) and acting hysterical. Then, I will happily "lose." You think I get joy from watching young men act like women? Nothing would make me happier than to see you become a rational man, but I suspect the cognitive dissonance might be too much for you. Prove me wrong. I can't wait to be proven wrong about you.
 

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Let's talk positives when we actually make it to the other side of this virus. Until then, why should we give a pat on the ass for an outbreak that is still growing exponentially as we speak?
I will always appreciate the workers in our country, and that includes our health care workers.
I'm impressed as to how well the system has held up so far, considering how much verbal bashing it has taken in recent years. I'm pleasantly surprised that it is better than we have been led to believe.

You're a pessimist, I'm an optimist (self converted). Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, I always say. The reality will usually fall somewhere in between. In any case, it's not good to live in fear. You know what they say, a coward dies a thousand deaths.
 
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