Still not getting out of the friendzone.

[zoom5]

Hey.
Can I get some advice from you guys?... i'm lost now. I'll make it quick:

-matched her on tinder, on messenger gave impression of a fun girl.
-Denied going out, cause she's seeing someone
-needed help from school, i was the only one who could help
-we went out, i helped her out... we were out for 5 hours.
-next some coffee here and there, she does a lot of eye contact, loves to talk to me, we get along really good
-We went on a road trip for a day. Really romantic waterfall discovery and stuff.. didn't kiss her cause i'm a p*ssy. We were making a lot of sex jokes...
-Next time I try to kiss her, looks away... tells me she doesn't want a relationship. a lot of hugging afterwards.
-I meet her outside..get really drunk.. nothing happens.. too little alone time.
-She needs help for school again. Her friend comes by cause i'm really late. Afterwards we go to a bbq party where my friends are. We talk for 5hours, get drunk, big eye contact, I give her a gift, really long hug...she wont let go.. we hold hands, deep drunk conversations... then her friend decides to go home, she goes with her. Cant convince otherwise.
-everyone on the bbq party said she is totally into me, and that we acted like a couple and such...
-Today I sent her a pic of us from last night, she says she doesn't want to be more then friends...and that i'm pressing on her too much.. ignores my message after that.

What now?
Am I really pressing on her? We go out once a week, and talk on messenger 4x a week.. and that not really much. I ask her a lot of times if she wants to go out.
Does she give impressions she likes me... and that I and my friends are just blind and stupid?
Should I just say "ok" and move on?
Should I keep it cool and see what happens?

P.S. I really really really like her... she is gf material not just for sex.
Im 23, she is 21.


Thanks..

 

[Von]

Hey.
Can I get some advice from you guys?... i'm lost now. I'll make it quick:

-matched her on tinder, on messenger gave impression of a fun girl.
-Denied going out, cause she's seeing someone
-needed help from school, i was the only one who could help
-we went out, i helped her out... we were out for 5 hours.
-next some coffee here and there, she does a lot of eye contact, loves to talk to me, we get along really good
-We went on a road trip for a day. Really romantic waterfall discovery and stuff.. didn't kiss her cause i'm a p*ssy. We were making a lot of sex jokes...
-Next time I try to kiss her, looks away... tells me she doesn't want a relationship. a lot of hugging afterwards.
-I meet her outside..get really drunk.. nothing happens.. too little alone time.
-She needs help for school again. Her friend comes by cause i'm really late. Afterwards we go to a bbq party where my friends are. We talk for 5hours, get drunk, big eye contact, I give her a gift, really long hug...she wont let go.. we hold hands, deep drunk conversations... then her friend decides to go home, she goes with her. Cant convince otherwise.
-everyone on the bbq party said she is totally into me, and that we acted like a couple and such...
-Today I sent her a pic of us from last night, she says she doesn't want to be more then friends...and that i'm pressing on her too much.. ignores my message after that.

What now?
Am I really pressing on her? We go out once a week, and talk on messenger 4x a week.. and that not really much. I ask her a lot of times if she wants to go out.
Does she give impressions she likes me... and that I and my friends are just blind and stupid?
Should I just say "ok" and move on?
Should I keep it cool and see what happens?

P.S. I really really really like her... she is gf material not just for sex.
Im 23, she is 21.


Thanks..

Remind me when I was young and couldn't pick the signs, while being desperate for affection.

You know she aint interested that's why you clinging.

Have sex with another woman, move on, delete her

Come back here only when that's done

 

[dude99]

Hey.
Can I get some advice from you guys?... i'm lost now. I'll make it quick:

-matched her on tinder, on messenger gave impression of a fun girl.
-Denied going out, cause she's seeing someone
-needed help from school, i was the only one who could help
-we went out, i helped her out... we were out for 5 hours.
-next some coffee here and there, she does a lot of eye contact, loves to talk to me, we get along really good
-We went on a road trip for a day. Really romantic waterfall discovery and stuff.. didn't kiss her cause i'm a p*ssy. We were making a lot of sex jokes...
-Next time I try to kiss her, looks away... tells me she doesn't want a relationship. a lot of hugging afterwards.
-I meet her outside..get really drunk.. nothing happens.. too little alone time.
-She needs help for school again. Her friend comes by cause i'm really late. Afterwards we go to a bbq party where my friends are. We talk for 5hours, get drunk, big eye contact, I give her a gift, really long hug...she wont let go.. we hold hands, deep drunk conversations... then her friend decides to go home, she goes with her. Cant convince otherwise.
-everyone on the bbq party said she is totally into me, and that we acted like a couple and such...
-Today I sent her a pic of us from last night, she says she doesn't want to be more then friends...and that i'm pressing on her too much.. ignores my message after that.

What now?
Am I really pressing on her? We go out once a week, and talk on messenger 4x a week.. and that not really much. I ask her a lot of times if she wants to go out.
Does she give impressions she likes me... and that I and my friends are just blind and stupid?
Should I just say "ok" and move on?
Should I keep it cool and see what happens?

P.S. I really really really like her... she is gf material not just for sex.
Im 23, she is 21.


Thanks..

Are you pressing on her too much. Probably not but chicks have to make up a reason why things are your fault and that is what she is doing.

What now?

Next.

Why waste time on a girl that wants you to be her girlfriend, her helper or the one that she pisses and moans to?

I would say to her something like this:

Her " you're pressing on me too much"

Me " oh." Shrug shoulders. " no worries. I have other dates. Goodbye."

 

[zoom5]

Are you pressing on her too much. Probably not but chicks have to make up a reason why things are your fault and that is what she is doing.

What now?

Next.

Why waste time on a girl that wants you to be her girlfriend, her helper or the one that she pisses and moans to?

I would say to her something like this:

Her " you're pressing on me too much"

Me " oh." Shrug shoulders. " no worries. I have other dates. Goodbye."

Well she didnt moan to me or something.. she also asked me about the girls that Im friends with if I like them..

I just wanna know If there is any hope if I just chill?

 

[Urbanyst]

You sound desperate.

Don't chase, replace.

 

[zoom5]

Yeah I got desperate...

 

[blakeyt]

Dude she knows she has you and now you're boring to her... it's all you trying to push the relationship forwards.

Focus on bringing new girls into your life so you're not as attached to it working out with this one girl.

As soon as she notices she hasn't got you in her pocket anymore her interest will perk up again, you wait.

 

[Alvafe]

so you go out with her for a romantic trip and not even tried to kiss her? tinder? but she was seeing someone else on tinder?

serious or she is REALLY and I mean REALLY low class, or she is a lying, she is at best pump and dump. best thing you could do is move on.and nope she is not GF material that is the desert talking

its funny I had this on people thinking I was dating a girl with I was friend with, news we never even make out so what others think or say means little to nothing, or you act or you move on, acting on this case will change little, like I said she is low class, so find a better replacement

 

[RangerMIke]

Never chase women.... Period. No matter how you pursue.... you appear desperate. If she likes you she will reach out... then just try to make a date, otherwise put her out of your mind.

 

[dude99]

Well she didnt moan to me or something.. she also asked me about the girls that Im friends with if I like them..

I just wanna know If there is any hope if I just chill?

Date other woman. Next her. You are finished with her.

By some slim chance she she ever reaches out to you again, then you set a date. SET A DATE. no we will see. No maybe's no lets hang as friends. A date. You make it clear it is a date and you don't have time for anything else.

If you get anything but a YES. Then you tell her you are too busy to waste your time and tell her take care goodbye.

 

[Igetit!]

I just wanna know If there is any hope if I just chill?

You wanna know if there's any hope here with this girl.....

No..there's not.

 

[marmel75]

Remind me when I was young and couldn't pick the signs, while being desperate for affection.

You know she aint interested that's why you clinging.

Have sex with another woman, move on, delete her

Come back here only when that's done

Ding ding ding...we have a winner!

 

[nismo-4]

Why the f**k are you analyzing? You put up this long wall of text? And you got a lot to learn.

1. Stop chasing.
2. Learn to Next aka cut your losses.
3. Don't put a woman on a pedestal.

Move on. She's not interested, she's not that attractive, and you can do better anyway.

Case closed. Onward!

 

[mikey2012]

I been there. Wasted time and money .
This is great for you because you are young .
Next the fcker.
Find someone who is begging you to fck her.

 

[MrOctober]

Wait wait.

His obvious next step is delete her....
Its toast. It is.

BUT

There a few steps where you screwed up early. So you need to look at where you went wrong in those opening conversations. Tinder but she's "seeing someone"? Sounds funny the two together right? You said something and or you just kept texting her even after right? You did it wrong somewhere pinpoint that and fix it.

Not for her but other woman in the future man

 

[lizardking82]

Essentially, you have become her best girl friend that she can hug and have deep conversations with. You're lacking options and you're on your feminine way too much. She will hug you while she's gettin' pounded in every hole by some dude that has abundance.

Stop acting like a girl's boyfriend before you become one. You seem more eager than her to start a relationship and that's not good for you. Next this girl cause you already ****ed up too much here and do not go "hug mode" on the next one. And you talked about deep, meaningful stuff? Common, man. The only deep stuff you should be "talking" to is her vagina. Then you can talk about deep stuff.

 

[Desdinova]

-matched her on tinder,

Mistake #1: Get the fvck off Tinder and go meet women in public. Once you master interacting with women in public, THEN you can add other avenues of meeting women. Because you don't know how to interact with women, this happens:

-Denied going out, cause she's seeing someone

This was your first sign that she wasn't interested. Also, if she's REALLY was seeing someone, she shouldn't be wh0ring around on Tinder. However, she most likely said she was seeing someone to try and blow you off.

-needed help from school, i was the only one who could help

This is when you entered the friend zone with no looking back. You rewarded her for simply texting you. Now she knows that you will reward her for blowing you off and doing favours for her. She doesn't need to invest in you nor fvck you to get what she wants out of you. It's a win for her, and her only.

-we went out, i helped her out... we were out for 5 hours.
-next some coffee here and there, she does a lot of eye contact, loves to talk to me, we get along really good
-We went on a road trip for a day. Really romantic waterfall discovery and stuff.. didn't kiss her cause i'm a p*ssy. We were making a lot of sex jokes...
-Next time I try to kiss her, looks away... tells me she doesn't want a relationship. a lot of hugging afterwards.
-I meet her outside..get really drunk.. nothing happens.. too little alone time.
-She needs help for school again. Her friend comes by cause i'm really late. Afterwards we go to a bbq party where my friends are. We talk for 5hours, get drunk, big eye contact, I give her a gift, really long hug...she wont let go.. we hold hands, deep drunk conversations... then her friend decides to go home, she goes with her. Cant convince otherwise.
-everyone on the bbq party said she is totally into me, and that we acted like a couple and such...
-Today I sent her a pic of us from last night, she says she doesn't want to be more then friends...and that i'm pressing on her too much.. ignores my message after that.

All irrelevant interaction. She's never going to fvck you and you keep rewarding her for it by giving her attention.

Move on. This chick is a lost cause.

 

[wifehunter]

This is how to get out of the FZ...watch and learn:

 

[lizardking82]

This is how to get out of the FZ...watch and learn:

Kraaaaaaamerrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Dingo]

We have all been there. . There is a learning curve.

Go read...

The Book of Pook, Rational Male, No More Mr. Nice Guy...