Chronocidal
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Social-circle game aside, how do you normally go about daygame in today's environment?
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Then what's the point if you don't number close? You are not voluntarily standing next to someone on a check-out line so I don't get that perspective that it's weird to be in a line and not talk. I never see people talk, 90% of the time, to strangers, in a line. If you go up to someone and just stand and stare at them, then that is weird.Many times I don't go for a number, but I'm working on that.
So I'm assuming you ask regarding any COVID symptoms during the text-messaging after getting her number?
What are hot approaches?
The point is to stop myself nodding off from boredom. Running errands is a chore. Joking around with strangers helps pass the time.Then what's the point if you don't number close? You are not voluntarily standing next to someone on a check-out line so I don't get that perspective that it's weird to be in a line and not talk. I never see people talk, 90% of the time, to strangers, in a line. If you go up to someone and just stand and stare at them, then that is weird.
"Cool approaching" still sounds difficult. You have 2 meter social distancing and everyone has the plague. You are more concerned about going home without Covid19 than getting a phone number. How do you navigate this?
So weight control or losing weight if obese is very important. If you are too fat then it does not work?The point is to stop myself nodding off from boredom. Running errands is a chore. Joking around with strangers helps pass the time.
I haven't been as busy during the post lockdown, but things are pretty much back to normal here now. Covid was never a big deal down south. No social distancing here, just masks inside stores, and not always.
A hot approach is going straight for a kiss with a complete stranger without even saying hello. Some top SMV guys can do it easily in clubs. I did it during the day, although I went for a hug instead. Still smashed after.
You got worst results when your intention was to go out to meet women or are you just Chadsplaining?I think day game has been misunderstood by so many guys.
Guys are interpreting day game as purposely going out with the intention of meeting women.
But I think day game would yield better results if it's incorporated into your daily routine - it's something you do while you're out running errands or going about your personal business.
So you feel validated by a cashier working at Walmart?Xenom0rph said:For example, I was at walmart and a cute 20-something girl asked me if I wanted to buy a plastic bag to which I politely declined. She then looked at all the screws, brackets, and clamps I was buying and asked me what I was doing, to which I responded that I'm building a home gym. We briefly chatted a while and she said it was awesome that I was building my own gym equipment and that she hoped to see me "soon" with a big bright eyes (which meant she was smiling underneath her face mask).....
You are getting validation from hired-guns, that are going to be like that, even if it was an older grey-haired white guy, and think this is something to write home about? Even if it meant something it is not a reflection on game, it's a reflection on your own looks, her preferences, and what mood she is in at the moment.Xenom0rph said:Another example: I was at the bank bringing in some change and told the cute Latina teller that I'm doing a civic duty by depositing my change since we're in the middle of a national coin shortage. She was giddy and started touching her hair and arching her back and sticking her t1ts out at me....she may as well have pressed her breasts up against the glass panel with how blatant she was flashing me her chest..... I told her that I have a whole bucket of change at home and will probably make multiple trips to which she (just like the walmart girl) said she "hoped to see me soon".....
That's the point of being intentional. You actually capitalize on how a woman is behaving towards you, step up the game and then close the deal. Maybe you are a Chadlite on the looks scale or an upper tier normie. Lets take that for argument sake. You still have to be intentional to close. Otherwise all you are doing is "feeling validated" that lower status hired guns being flirtatious with you and calling that game and think that means something. Any one of these girls can be doing that to the next guy or even an old guy.Xenom0rph said:I've had so many positive experiences with women during this pandemic with them being overtly flirtatious, but I do admit I haven't had much luck as far as closing the deal (getting between they legs)....
This is really sad. You even call this a lesson. Wow.Xenom0rph said:But the lessen is: day game generally yields better interactions if it's something you do while going about your day. Purposely going out with the intention of meeting women doesn't work too well.
You got worst results when your intention was to go out to meet women or are you just Chadsplaining?
So you feel validated by a cashier working at Walmart?
You are getting validation from hired-guns, that are going to be like that, even if it was an older grey-haired white guy, and think this is something to write home about? Even if it meant something it is not a reflection on game, it's a reflection on your own looks, her preferences, and what mood she is in at the moment.
That's the point of being intentional. You actually capitalize on how a woman is behaving towards you, step up the game and then close the deal. Maybe you are a Chadlite on the looks scale or an upper tier normie. Lets take that for argument sake. You still have to be intentional to close. Otherwise all you are doing is "feeling validated" that lower status hired guns being flirtatious with you and calling that game and think that means something. Any one of these girls can be doing that to the next guy or even an old guy.
If you can't capitalize even on a scenario where you are shooting fish in a barrel, then you are either in monk-mode MTGOW or don't have any effective game. You are not there to feel nice that a HIRED GUN is being nice with you or flirting. Isn't that what being a beta-male or worst, omega male is all about? In fact, if you are that stoked over random cashiers being nice with you then it means you are thirsty.
This is really sad. You even call this a lesson. Wow.
But I think day game would yield better results if it's incorporated into your daily routine - it's something you do while you're out running errands or going about your personal business.[/QUOTEI]
I always notice attractive women when I'm out, and if I feel like it I will talk to them. I have a girlfriend, so I'm not trying to game them, but there are always women when you go out to run errands or whatever. I see them as being there to add to the fun, they're part of the rich tapestry of the world.
I posted a video awhile back from Alexander Grance, who said you should never look at women when you're out. I really disagree with that concept completely. If you don't notice the women around you, you're not going to interact with them. What is the point of building more walls around yourself?
Guys here used to always talk about how an "alpha male" always makes and maintains eye contact with those around him. And I've seen some videos saying how maintaining eye contact with women is a way of establishing dominance over them (the person who looks away first is submissive). I wouldn't take it that far, but how can you make eye contact if you never look at women? That idea seems ridiculous to me.
I'm not triggered, I'm being logical. You were trying to make an irrational point.I'm having trouble understanding why you're so triggered by what I wrote.....
I'm not triggered, I'm being logical. You were trying to make an irrational point.
For the record, I have some nice cashier connections, and even got a number close from a cashier as recent as this year. If this is a standard of measuring success, then we have the same level of success at day-game if you want to call it that. If you are thirsty enough, these low-level social interactions are going to stoke you. Just because something stokes you doesn't mean you are successful.
I would note that asking someone for her number can be done at a distance. Other things, e.g. kino, not so much. So yes, it likely is difficult, at least in that any aspect of one's repertoire involving physical proximity may not be usable at an initial encounter."Cool approaching" still sounds difficult. You have 2 meter social distancing and everyone has the plague. You are more concerned about going home without Covid19 than getting a phone number. How do you navigate this?
It sounds like it is a major source of validation for you. You are making a point that there are hired gun cashiers that are nice to people and some of them may be flirtatious. These are not people that you've met in the line of a store, inside the store itself, but people who are paid to be nice with you, so it's not a genuine social interaction in the first place.My friend, I think you're projecting your perspectives onto me. These interactions aren't a source of validation for me, I bring them up to illustrate a point that social interactions with women are something that should occur as a man goes about his business.
Then you don't understand day game, or game in general. If you are waiting for women to throw themselves on you then you would not need game. If you are worried about looking creepy then you are too self conscious to even practice any game. An alpha male knows what he wants and goes after it. You are passively just observing how women are reacting to your looks but not doing anything about it.Xenom0roph said:Purposely going out during the day to run day game only makes a guy look creepy.....
That is a MAJOR cop-out. I'm not trying to close the deal either. We are both getting the same results. Nadda. (I'm too confused for that to be a loss to me so a Nadda may not be a bad thing, it may be great)Xenom0rph said:I also don't consider these interactions a success, as noted above, I mentioned that I haven't had much luck closing the deal. And it's mainly because I'm not even really trying to close the deal. Trying too hard to close the deal just increases the creep factor. Instead, I prefer to let things run their course.
Still a cop-out.Xenom0rph said:Also, we must put things into perspective, in this COVID19 environment employees are told to encourage people to "get in and out as fast as possible" because they don't want people hanging out inside too long and coughing/sneezing/breathing in the air indoors which spreads infection. And yet these women go out of their way to initiate and prolong conversation with me.... I'm not the one initiating conversation.....
So what? If you don't do anything with it then you are just building fantasy in your mind. All you can do is fap on it, while the guy who has her number, or that she is with, HAS HER, while all you have is your hand.Xenom0roph said:I think it's fair to assume that if a woman initiates and prolongs conversation that it qualifies as flirtation......
It sounds like it is a major source of validation for you. You are making a point that there are hired gun cashiers that are nice to people and some of them may be flirtatious. These are not people that you've met in the line of a store, inside the store itself, but people who are paid to be nice with you, so it's not a genuine social interaction in the first place.
As I've said before, I've run across cashiers as well and have number closed one, so if you haven't got there or further than that then I don't see what the big deal is. What am I missing? What am I projecting?
Then you don't understand day game, or game in general. If you are waiting for women to throw themselves on you then you would not need game. If you are worried about looking creepy then you are too self conscious to even practice any game. An alpha male knows what he wants and goes after it. You are passively just observing how women are reacting to your looks but not doing anything about it.
If you are not closing, then you are no better than another guy who is not getting attention at all, and even worst than if someone is working hard at game, not initially getting the attention you are, but is getting an occasional close here and there. If you are not closing then you are losing.
I'm sorry, but with me, I feel the more flirtatious and nice a hot woman is to me, if it's not closed, then I feel worst about the day than if nothing happened at all. I can't stand the "what ifs". It's like passing up a thousand dollars or a million dollars. Feeling that I passed something that I was entitled to leaves a feeling of regret that makes you think. There are at least a couple of "regret threads" that I have posted where I was hoping to deconstruct to disprove nothing was there, that there was no chance or I didn't miss out. So, I don't know how you are wired, but it burns when I miss out on "something" like that.
That woman you write about that was nice to you one day. The next day you see her can be a completely different person. She may not even feel like talking to you. Don't you get that feeling sometimes, these women can change on a dime?
At the end of the day if you are not closing with a great flirtatious experience, then it becomes a memory that you fap about later in the evening. It has no further value than that. I'm not one to make memories with random flirtatious woman so I can think, "what if", and then fap at a potential scenario, or write about it on here. It's better to actually close otherwise, they just remain "what if"s., and there are no shortage of "what if"s around.
That is a MAJOR cop-out. I'm not trying to close the deal either. We are both getting the same results. Nadda. (I'm too confused for that to be a loss to me so a Nadda may not be a bad thing, it may be great)
Still a cop-out.
So what? If you don't do anything with it then you are just building fantasy in your mind. All you can do is fap on it, while the guy who has her number, or that she is with, HAS HER, while all you have is your hand.
That's not related to the spirit of your post or any correspondence we have had. "What if" is a good thing and is contra-incel so I don't see how that is triggering. An incel/ethnicel trigger would say "I'm invisible to cashiers, you must be a Chad and just have to show up so you are just Chadsplaining". Being worried about a potential positive outcome out of a great interaction can not be, by definition, an incel trigger. Race was not brought up in my reply either (i.e. discussing the race of the women, etc...). I fail to see how you think I'm triggered by your OP if I did not mention any of these issues.Yo my man, I'm now truly perplexed. You say my OP didn't trigger you yet you type out these emotional responses about how you're vexed by "what if" scenarios.....
What intention are you waiting for her to signal? Here you are sounding like the women are basically throwing themselves on you.Xenom0rph said:There's an old philosophy that I think applies quite well to dating dynamics, it's called "wu wei" which translates to something like "do nothing" or a rather a better translation would mean something like "go with the flow"......
"Go with the flow" is how I personally feel day game should be, it's something you do while you're going about your business around town......
The reality is that it's up to the female to decide if she's willing to move onto the next step, and she'll signal her intention. Most guys won't be able to game their way into closing the deal....