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Your resignation to female nature is learned helplessness.
Again Pan, this is you on the defensive. I can see it's in your nature to find a way to attack back when you feel attacked.

ver, I do not agree with your underlying premise that "man manipulating woman is BAD" but "woman manipulating man is just how it is".
I don't think that was what I tried to convey. again I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps the last line of the post made you perceive what I wrote that way.

I never said man manipulating woman bad and woman manipulating man was how it is. I said that woman are much more versed in machiavelian ways than your average man is. If your average man tries to go dark triad with your average woman he is going to end up here in the no contact thread. Women learn to be manipulative from a young age as they don't have the physical prowess of a male. Pan you know the score, if you are in a bar and get into a row with the average man it will come to blows. If you get into a row with the average woman, she will try to bring a whole world of ****e upon you. The average man cannot be thought Dark Triad behaviors. The average woman already knows how to play it.

I never said this was good or bad. My mentality is objective.
 

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As you say, it's just sex addiction
I know it too well. Like you say it is nothing to boast about. I saw (edit wrote say and not saw) it when I didn't see it. I say it as something else. I used to say "I love sex as it's the only time I am completely in the present moment". I'd pride myself on "lasting so long" not to please the women, rather because I could stay in that moment for longer. I recognized it but didn't recognize it. It's like drug addiction. i was a lion who just wanted his feed. On reflection that's a big reason why my ltr's didn't work out. I wanted mine. (perhaps in ltr's you are supposed to "romance" and "make love". Like you I was never satisfied.

You are absolutely right to have a dark triad mindset if you are under the influence of sex addiction. Why? if you are not armed with dark triad traits your self addiction makes you prone to the manipulation of the masses. over and over again.

Perhaps in the end it is good insight from you: if you are under the spell of an addiction you better have your boundaries well and truly covered.

There is a soul tax to pay for living this way
Pretty much. perhaps mode one is reverse psycology
 

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Again Pan, this is you on the defensive. I can see it's in your nature to find a way to attack back when you feel attacked.



I don't think that was what I tried to convey. again I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps the last line of the post made you perceive what I wrote that way.

I never said man manipulating woman bad and woman manipulating man was how it is. I said that woman are much more versed in machiavelian ways than your average man is. If your average man tries to go dark triad with your average woman he is going to end up here in the no contact thread. Women learn to be manipulative from a young age as they don't have the physical prowess of a male. Pan you know the score, if you are in a bar and get into a row with the average man it will come to blows. If you get into a row with the average woman, she will try to bring a whole world of ****e upon you. The average man cannot be thought Dark Triad behaviors. The average woman already knows how to play it.

I never said this was good or bad. My mentality is objective.
My first ever post here was in the no contact thread - no one is immune. My rock bottom was actually experiencing the same thing Mystery did, and that all players seem to be vulnerable to. Getting mind-raped by the all powerful Feminine Dark Triad is, I would say, probably the most valuable lesson I have ever received.

Amazing really. Her dark triad defeated mine. It was a power struggle and she won in the end because, deep down, I cared about her.

Once a man cares about a woman, she has disarmed him. And once she has disarmed him then attraction falls and briffault's law kicks in and you know the rest.

Tom Torero, in my humble opinion, tackles this topic and absolutely nails the Male Desire for Female Affection. I think these are the most important insights a man can ever have into his own vulnerabilities.

 

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I would not advise any single childless guy to go actively targeting single mothers
I agree. Childless men and single moms are a bad fit for romantic relationships. Some childless men have been able to pull off casual sex with single moms.
 

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Why???

Single Moms are the most mentally-damaged, baggage-laden women out there. Assuming that you're capable of banging women who are not single moms, why on earth would you target single moms? Are you attracted to women who have passed watermelons through their vaginas? That's deviant, mate ;)
I only go for physically attractive ones. Seems like they are easier than regular young prissy broads. I'm into younger chicks too though, will probably mix some of them in or go back to that focus after I satisfy my MILF fetish.
Naturally single fathers will be a more suitable fit for single mothers

I would not advise any single childless guy to go actively targeting single mothers

1) they are usually very damaged both physically and mentally

the single mothers i know will very rarely if ever go to the gym , eat crap are highly overactive on social media and generally live very unhealthy lifestyles

2) depending on how the baby daddy left there she will usually a plethora of phycological issues .....insecurity usually being the biggest one

3) the kids are usually nightmares as they are raised without any kind of discipline or structure

there is only one time i would consider letting single mothers into my bed and that is after a lot of alcohol in the early hours of the morning after a night out and even then it would be last resort
If they look I will smash!

It's up to you how you want to live your life but i strongly believe that the more honest and authentic you live, the simpler your life will be (for the better) and the less anxiety/drama/problems will come back to haunt you - because they always will in the end.
When you have alot of integrity, more and more people will be able to trust you. Human beings are incredibly complicated but honesty is a free resource and one of the most valuable things you can be known for and what all business and social relations rely upon to be able to function properly.
People think that lack of necessities is the root of poverty in the world, but it's not, it's corruption and corruption starts with dishonesty so do yourself a favor and start living a more honest life. If everyone adopted that mindset, the world would be a better place. It always starts with oneself.
One little "side effect" from that regarding intersexual relations is that you will automatically be much more attractive to the opposite sex since you'll exhibit a backbone and develop a stronger frame. This means people know what to expect from you and will feel safe in your company and safety is one of the most important things women look for in a man, so i advice you not to fall into the childish game of manipulation for a short term gain just because lower quality women might do that. When you hold yourself to higher moral standards you'll attract higher quality women and isn't that what you really want?
What you wrote sounds noble and eloquent. However I've been around long enough to know life isn't fair.

But if you simply are looking to have sex & move on? Just be upfront about that. Lying is for weak men who are afraid to show intent.
Lol yeah telling her I just want sex is a great approach.
 

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I only go for physically attractive ones. Seems like they are easier than regular young prissy broads. I'm into younger chicks too though, will probably mix some of them in or go back to that focus after I satisfy my MILF fetish.

If they look I will smash!



What you wrote sounds noble and eloquent. However I've been around long enough to know life isn't fair.



Lol yeah telling her I just want sex is a great approach.
You tell her you are not looking for anything serious. Jesus.
 

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What you wrote sounds noble and eloquent. However I've been around long enough to know life isn't fair.
Well spotted. This "honesty is the best policy" nonsense absolutely hobbles men. Women have no honor and honesty, and so it just isn't a fair "fight".

She's allowed to lie and hamster, but we aren't because men are supposed to take the moral high road and be honorable and chivalrous. Utter rubbish. Haha. Women are the gatekeepers and set the rules, and the rules are that lying is acceptable if you're a woman.

Woman want equality right? Lying to women is true equality.
 

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Well spotted. This "honesty is the best policy" nonsense absolutely hobbles men. Women have no honor and honesty, and so it just isn't a fair "fight".

She's allowed to lie and hamster, but we aren't because men are supposed to take the moral high road and be honorable and chivalrous. Utter rubbish. Haha. Women are the gatekeepers and set the rules, and the rules are that lying is acceptable if you're a woman.

Woman want equality right? Lying to women is true equality.
Now that's an inspiring response!
 

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At my age (50s) you have to wonder what’s wrong with women who haven’t done the marriage and kids thing. Why didn’t any man choose them at some point along the way?
For previous generations, yes. This is going to change soon with the Millennial generation aging. Childlessness has been rampant among Millennials for a variety of reasons. The earliest Millennials are turning 40 soon (1982-1989 births). As the Millennials turn 40 and 50, being childless at that age will be perceived differently.
 

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For previous generations, yes. This is going to change soon with the Millennial generation aging. Childlessness has been rampant among Millennials for a variety of reasons. The earliest Millennials are turning 40 soon (1982-1989 births). As the Millennials turn 40 and 50, being childless at that age will be perceived differently.
Also, motherhood and procreation is completely shamed in our societies. We live in a culture that worships sterile anal sex and bows to the alter of Gay
 

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bows to the alter of Gay
which if we don't fight back against this nonsense we are doomed.

too much shaming language going on to support this narrative.

the gay agenda is the ruin of society and it is more perverse than feminisim.

and do I have my personal reasons? oh yes I do
 

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which if we don't fight back against this nonsense we are doomed.

too much shaming language going on to support this narrative.

the gay agenda is the ruin of society and it is more perverse than feminisim.

and do I have my personal reasons? oh yes I do
I hate fags and I openly talk about it in my normal day-to-day life with my friends. I cut off anyone from my friendship group who supports gay. It is totally unacceptable to me.

They have an extremely corrosive effect on society, and most galling of all is that most of them are actually banging women on the sneaky and spreading all their weird STD's into the heterosexual community.

We need a vaccine passport for gays.
 

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I hate fags and I openly talk about it in my normal day-to-day life with my friends
when I was 18 a 30 year old fag tried to drug and try it on with me. (celebrating the end of high school we were doing e and everybody was huggy, fvcker told me there was a party back at his......spiiked me with mdna or whatever it is called) unfortunately for him those kind of drugs make my psycotic and don't knock me out.....let's just say it ended badly for him.....by the way, this was back at a time when the police said to me "I would have done the same if I were you") police actually done a whip around for me to get the train back home.
 

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They have an extremely corrosive effect on society, and most galling of all is that most of them are actually banging women on the sneaky and spreading all their weird STD's into the heterosexual community.
So if they bang women they are really Bi then right? I thought gay men weren't attracted to women..
 

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All gay men are Bi - that's the scandal.
Yes and no.

there is a very few percentage who may fall into the category of genuinley gay.

the rest, unfortuanlaley for society, fall into the category of "freaks". just watch on of their "parades"
 

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Yes and no.

there is a very few percentage who may fall into the category of genuinley gay.

the rest, unfortuanlaley for society, fall into the category of "freaks". just watch on of their "parades"
I've actually learned this directly from Gay men. Sydney (where I live) is an extremely gayed city, and it took me a while to figure this all out. I actually used to like hanging out with Gays because I was a big party boy and, say what you like about gays, they do know how to party and they create environments where women feel safe.

Here's the thing about Gays. They bang men because it is way, way easier and men genuinely love casual sex. But they simultaneously have women/fag hags throwing themselves at them. Having a "gay friend" has become extremely fashionable since the Sex and the City days.

It's extremely rare for a guy to be 100% gay, and all gays talk about this when you gain their trust.
 

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I lived in your city for a year. granted a long time ago.

they do know how to party and they create environments where women feel safe.
Yeah no doubt.

Here's the thing about Gays. They bang men because it is way, way easier and men genuinely love casual sex. But they simultaneously have women/fag hags throwing themselves at them.
A few comments:

I suspected many are gay because they can't get women.
Porn leads a lot of men to want to "experiment" I wrote a post about this before: watching porn and seeing C0CK is very unhealthy and can lead a lot of male to "wonder".
A lot of gays are simply predetors.
You mention casual sex....gay sex is not sex, it is simply an extension of mastarbation.
 
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