Again Pan, this is you on the defensive. I can see it's in your nature to find a way to attack back when you feel attacked.Your resignation to female nature is learned helplessness.
I don't think that was what I tried to convey. again I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps the last line of the post made you perceive what I wrote that way.ver, I do not agree with your underlying premise that "man manipulating woman is BAD" but "woman manipulating man is just how it is".
I never said man manipulating woman bad and woman manipulating man was how it is. I said that woman are much more versed in machiavelian ways than your average man is. If your average man tries to go dark triad with your average woman he is going to end up here in the no contact thread. Women learn to be manipulative from a young age as they don't have the physical prowess of a male. Pan you know the score, if you are in a bar and get into a row with the average man it will come to blows. If you get into a row with the average woman, she will try to bring a whole world of ****e upon you. The average man cannot be thought Dark Triad behaviors. The average woman already knows how to play it.
I never said this was good or bad. My mentality is objective.