Single Mommies

[Rollo Tomassi]

Something to think about:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051028/ap_on_re_us/american_births

 

[WestCoaster]

Those stats tell me a lot about today's American female.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Why do you think every damned episode of Maury are women looking for paternity tests ( I DVR every episode to remind myself never to get involved with a single mother again)?

I was married for 5 years to a woman with a 2 year old, whom I raised and nurtured, until I caught her Mother (only half a word for her!) screwing a 23 year old redneck from Oklahoma who lived in a singlewide. Although, in her words, It was a " really nice trailer."

 

[Immaculate]

Women have been "empowered" so that they no longer need a man around to have a baby.

And everyone already knows, the kid doesn't need a good father in his life either...so where's the surprise?


The surprise will come when these children grow up and become angry and feel deprived by not having both parents in their lives.

She may not want a husband but that kid has a right to have her father.

 

[joekerr31]

honestly, what has any mother really taught her kids thats of any use in life?

women nurture kids. men raise them. teach them to survive in the world. teach them to respect themselves and to work hard.

personally i think most kids would do better without a mother than without a father.

J

 

[legolas]

Yeah "empowerment" of women and men's sabotage of marriage as a lot to do with it. Just keep doing it guys, eventually it will be so bad that they will beg for marriage, but we won't give it to them.

 

[Immaculate]

Why is this a problem? The article says they are generally living with the father- just not married. That's not really a bad thing. It's ok to be a single parent as long as the other parent is involved somehow. You dont have to be married.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
Those stats tell me a lot about today's American female.

They didn't get pregnant by themselves...

 

[penkitten]

stats tells us about the american people

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Immaculate
Women have been "empowered" so that they no longer need a man around to have a baby.

And everyone already knows, the kid doesn't need a good father in his life either...so where's the surprise?


The surprise will come when these children grow up and become angry and feel deprived by not having both parents in their lives.

She may not want a husband but that kid has a right to have her father.

Bravo! Just because someone can raise a child alone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they should.

But I should reiterate from by previous post, women don't get pregnant alone. The problem is that the typical American male doesn't seem to be worth marrying or putting forth the effort of a LTR (sorry guys).

The role of men has morphed into more than being just a monetary provider and face it, that's usually the only thing that the typical male can provide. Looking at the spoiled teenagers and young adults of today, we can tell that providing monetary means to the family was not enough to produce viable people into this society (thank you Rick Hilton, Barron and Conrad must be proud).

Who wants the soapbox next?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Immaculate
Why is this a problem? The article says they are generally living with the father- just not married. That's not really a bad thing. It's ok to be a single parent as long as the other parent is involved somehow. You dont have to be married.

I'd question their statistics on living together. None the less, married or not, a guy living in a house doesn't make a father. The same could be said for women.

 

[WestCoaster]

Correct, it takes two to tango. I put the blame on males and females. A guy I know had a kid with a gal and was going to marry her, but she dumped his a$$ saying a kid wasn't a good enough reason to get married. REALLY?! What a selfish broad.

There's a ton of birth control out there today, surprised it's not used more wisely.

Also, those stats are skewered, women get the children more than 95 percent of the time. I know a lot of divorced guys, only one got the kid and that's because the sl-t didn't want him. Most kids are living with the woman and I've never figured out why the courts lean so heavily in this decision. Neither sex should the kid 90 percent. I think it should be equal, some dads are lousy parents, some are good parents; some women are lousy parents, some are good. Young boys learn way more from their fathers than mothers, IMO.

I've dated some single mommies, some are great; others turned out to be ho's ... one I dated for awhile couldn't understand why I woudn't sleep over when her young daughter was there. I was like, you're kidding right? She needs to be brought up ethically from day 1. We can sleep together when she's with daddy out of town, but she should really not have mommy's boyfriend waking up in the morning with mommy. She couldn't figure out where I was coming from until a few months later and she said, "You were right." Thank God that relationship broke up ... what a dumb ho. Sadly many men and women don't consider the child in any of their decision making.

 

[DonJuanMonk]

Originally posted by Immaculate
Women have been "empowered" so that they no longer need a man around to have a baby.

And everyone already knows, the kid doesn't need a good father in his life either...so where's the surprise?


The surprise will come when these children grow up and become angry and feel deprived by not having both parents in their lives.

She may not want a husband but that kid has a right to have her father.

RIGHT ON BROTHER! When I meet a woman that is a big ass attention ho or very angry biatch it's obvious she had an absent/no father. If I meet an AFC who spends his days and nights jerking off to porn and video games/dvds. It's the same!

Women THINK they know what to do. THEY DON'T KNOW SHIAT.

 

[englishman]

Originally posted by Immaculate
Why is this a problem? The article says they are generally living with the father- just not married. That's not really a bad thing. It's ok to be a single parent as long as the other parent is involved somehow. You dont have to be married.

I was thinking the same thing, also whos to say that its not the father whos taken off ?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The increases in unmarried births have been among women in their 20s, she said, particularly those 25 to 29.

Look at this stat. The reason I was aware of this study was due to a bit of research I was doing on women's long term fertility phases. Without turning this into a doctoral thesis length post, this is the primary 4 year stretch in a woman's life in which she begins to become accutely aware of her declining sexual marketability. Once this begins to become actualized for her, her priorities for sexual selection and the conditions upon which she bases this on change in importance. This then is reflected in her sexual behaviors - a sort of biological 'cashing in her chips' before the party's over. The 4-5 year stretch between tha ages of 25 to 29 or 30 represent a higher imperative for seeking out an LTR and a suitable provisioner to share in parental investment. The means to achieving this may be a 'traditional' marriage or it may be an "accidental" pregnancy, but the imperative is most certainly recognized on some level of consciousness. This study seems to reflect that women in this demographic are more commonly resorting to single parenthood, but it's the methodology or the way they represent this to their male partner that's at issue. It would be one thing if 25-29 y.o. women we're lining up at the sperm bank for artificail insemination because they so desperately wanted to become mothers; but I think it's safe to assume that the majority of these women were fertilized by more traditional means.

 

[Immaculate]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Bravo! Just because someone can raise a child alone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they should.

But I should reiterate from by previous post, women don't get pregnant alone. The problem is that the typical American male doesn't seem to be worth marrying or putting forth the effort of a LTR (sorry guys).

The role of men has morphed into more than being just a monetary provider and face it, that's usually the only thing that the typical male can provide. Looking at the spoiled teenagers and young adults of today, we can tell that providing monetary means to the family was not enough to produce viable people into this society (thank you Rick Hilton, Barron and Conrad must be proud).

Who wants the soapbox next?

i'll take it, thanks.

I didn't read the entire article so...

..I don't have a problem with single anybody with or without children. My problem is with women who want a baby but no babydaddy AND men who get a woman pregnant and then skip out on her and the child.

 

[WestCoaster]

Agree with Francisco. I think the American male is nearly as bad a product as the American female. We've lost our way. Despite my problems with guys on this site -- fellas who fall in love with and want to date strippers; AFCs pining for ex-gfs, and so on -- at least the guys here want to get help.

I work at a university and I see many quality men and women each day. Sadly, I also see many clueless men and women who have no morals, fewer ethics, and no direction as to where they're going in life. But hey, as long as they have their tatoo in the right visible area, the baseball cap on backwards, the cell phone/Ipod/whatever ringing, all's good, right?

If American men and women would turn off the TV for one week, quit reading sh-t, or just start reading period; tune out of all their technology and do some volunteer work with the less advantaged, we might get somewhere.

A little off-topic here, but these single mommy/daddy thing doesn't surprise me. We are a country that lives for the moment, not the future. I mean really -- think about that ugly a$$ tatoo and what it's going to look like in 10-15 years? I'm sure it will look great in the board room ... oh, I forgot, they're not going to be IN the boardroom, they're going to be in the stock room. Sigh ...

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
If ...,or just start reading period; tune out of all their technology and do some volunteer work with the less advantaged, we might get somewhere.

Originally posted by Immaculate
I didn't read the entire article so...

Hmmm,...


Dude, the article was like less than half a web page.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Other findings of the report included:



Births to whites *declined* by nearly 18,000

Hispanics were up 32,000

there was an increase of more than 8,000 in births to Asians

a rise of just 72 births among black women.


Hmmm me thinks there's alot of 'imports' a breedin'

I primarily date white womens. That's kinda cool the white chix aren't procreating like rabbits.

 

[NewMan]

there is one good side to all of this:

At least Amercian chicks are fvcking.