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Real Talk: Female Beauty Peaks at 18

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I noticed in college and also at clubs/bars that 21+ year old girls were just at the point of decline in beauty. By this point, many of these girls had started to gain a significant amount of weight, voices were deepening a little bit, they were becoming a bit more assertive, cynical and masculine in their personality traits.

The same girls at 18 were thinner, much nicer, more innocent, more demure and generally far more feminine. A girl in her late teens is acknowledged everywhere in the world as being at the peak of her desirability and ready for marriage.

Not in the USA or anywhere else in the industrialized world however. In the US women don't get married until 30. They are often fat, very masculinized, and may have had a handful of boyfriends in the best of scenarios or dozen or hundreds in the worst.

Why does any sane young adult man wait for a woman to turn 30 or 35 to marry them? They've lost so much of their femininity they can't even look the part of a bride no matter how hard they try.

On this forum guys are chasing 30+ 35+ 40+ 50+ and completely ignoring young adult women. This tells me guys who are vets on sosuave must be lower smv if they are consistently chasing women in their 30s 40s and 50s and trying to mindfvck themselves and anyone else willing to listen that these women are "hot."

Again, how can we trust the feedback on the forum when a majority of the posters are chasing old women?
 

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Whilst it holds water, peaking at 18 seems a bit extreme imo.

In fact many women are more attractive into their early mid twenties, as their greasy/bad skin from teen years settles down and their figures develop, get a better sense of style, how to present themselves, makeup etc. Coupled with maybe being less annoying - or maybe annoying in other ways, but more mature?

I think late 20's, early 30's is when the noticeable deterioration has commenced. But thats not to say women aren't attractive when they reach that age, maybe as I'm 41, but plenty of attractive women in their 30's, sometimes 40's but obviously more rare as seems minority of women consistently maintain a healthy lifestyle.

Reminds me of my hair dresser recently talking about men/relationships. She's ballooned a bit as years gone by, but was really attractive in her 30's. She was moaning about some bloke who said she looked nothing like her pics and she was saying well thats what happens when everyone gets older. I'm thinking, yes, thats what happens when you take things for granted and eat badly, drink wine regularly and don;t exercise!
 
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Why does any sane young adult man wait for a woman to turn 30 or 35 to marry them? They've lost so much of their femininity they can't even look the part of a bride no matter how hard they try.
Men don’t “want” to wait, they often have no choice. Any hot women in her 20s is either going to marry the proverbial “Chad” or tell the guy to get lost.

When women hit 30 they need something more secure because the face morality for the first time and that’s when gates of marriage open up.

On this forum guys are chasing 30+ 35+ 40+ 50+ and completely ignoring young adult women. This tells me guys who are vets on sosuave must be lower smv if they are consistently chasing women in their 30s 40s and 50s and trying to mindfvck themselves and anyone else willing to listen that these women are "hot."

Again, how can we trust the feedback on the forum when a majority of the posters are chasing old women?
Nothing lasts forever, if you are an older man you can’t be chasing 20 year olds forever.

I’ve said it before, and I think what you are trying to say is: if a man on Sosuave has any issues with a girl past the age of say, 34, he has big big problems.
 

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Age is an objective criteria in a woman's beauty. Personally I'd say women peak in their late teens and early 20's. What a mans does about this depends on the man.
 

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I noticed in college and also at clubs/bars that 21+ year old girls were just at the point of decline in beauty. By this point, many of these girls had started to gain a significant amount of weight, voices were deepening a little bit, they were becoming a bit more assertive, cynical and masculine in their personality traits.

The same girls at 18 were thinner, much nicer, more innocent, more demure and generally far more feminine. A girl in her late teens is acknowledged everywhere in the world as being at the peak of her desirability and ready for marriage.
I did not notice this while I was in college. 21-25 year old women seem comparable to the 18-20 year old set in terms of looks. Some might start a decline around 25-26. 30-32 is when you'll see the majority have a decline. While there are attractive 30 somethings, they might not even compare to their 20 something selves.

Why does any sane young adult man wait for a woman to turn 30 or 35 to marry them? They've lost so much of their femininity they can't even look the part of a bride no matter how hard they try.
I think a lot of men slide into it. They don't want to break up and face the potential of a long sexual drought. I think a lot of men figure that they've been with their girlfriend a while and they'll keep the sexual frequency going and avoid the pitfalls of looking for new pusssy if they put a ring on it. There are men that want families too.

On this forum guys are chasing 30+ 35+ 40+ 50+ and completely ignoring young adult women. This tells me guys who are vets on sosuave must be lower smv if they are consistently chasing women in their 30s 40s and 50s and trying to mindfvck themselves and anyone else willing to listen that these women are "hot."
Nothing lasts forever, if you are an older man you can’t be chasing 20 year olds forever.

I’ve said it before, and I think what you are trying to say is: if a man on Sosuave has any issues with a girl past the age of say, 34, he has big big problems.
It depends on how old the male participant on this forum is, @joesbigship. There are men in their 50s-60s who participate here. Expecting a 50 year old man to have a 20-25 year old girlfriend is a bit unreasonable.

Most men are beta males. Most men in their 30s/40s/50s are chasing similarly aged women. I'm 38. When I observe 35-40 year old men, most are pursuing women in the 32-37 range. 1-5 years younger. You have to be really good to get beyond a 5 year age difference and probably use some method other than the Big 3 swipe apps (Tinder/Hinge/Bumble). You might be able to get beyond a 5 year age difference sliding into DMs on Instagram if you have a great Instagram profile showing money and status. Approaching might be the best way to achieve a 5-10 year age gap once you get into your mid-30s.
 

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I did not notice this while I was in college. 21-25 year old women seem comparable to the 18-20 year old set in terms of looks. Some might start a decline around 25-26. 30-32 is when you'll see the majority have a decline. While there are attractive 30 somethings, they might not even compare to their 20 something selves.

It depends on how old the male participant on this forum is, @joesbigship. There are men in their 50s-60s who participate here. Expecting a 50 year old man to have a 20-25 year old girlfriend is a bit unreasonable.

Most men are beta males. Most men in their 30s/40s/50s are chasing similarly aged women. I'm 38. When I observe 35-40 year old men, most are pursuing women in the 32-37 range. 1-5 years younger. You have to be really good to get beyond a 5 year age difference and probably use some method other than the Big 3 swipe apps (Tinder/Hinge/Bumble). You might be able to get beyond a 5 year age difference sliding into DMs on Instagram if you have a great Instagram profile showing money and status. Approaching might be the best way to achieve a 5-10 year age gap once you get into your mid-30s.
I may be more sensitive to some of the physical changes I see in women throughout their 20's, especially white women. I agree that many women can remain very attractive through their mid and even late 20's.

However, even then, you'll see some subtle or not so subtle changes, the most prominent of which is UV damage. The majority of white women are not careful about skin protection which it's unfortunate.

I don't begrudge anyone's choices. My main concern however is that distorts anonymous assessments of attractiveness. When you see the actual photos of women posters consider to be attractive, it's often a bit of a shock!
 

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In college I thought the 20-21 yo women were the hottest(way hotter than the freshmen), then a slow decline Junior year and steep decline Senior year. I remember thinking literally every single girl in my dorm was hot sophomore year, but by graduation a lot of them of them were back down to earth. Can't tell as much in my 30s but generally younger women have much nicer legs.
 

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Most 30+ guys can’t pull women under 25. Just the simple reality…

Also, western society conditions women against age gap dating. Even if she’s attracted to older men, they won’t be pre-selected by her peers. Pre-selection is HUGE
 

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I noticed in college and also at clubs/bars that 21+ year old girls were just at the point of decline in beauty. By this point, many of these girls had started to gain a significant amount of weight, voices were deepening a little bit, they were becoming a bit more assertive, cynical and masculine in their personality traits.

The same girls at 18 were thinner, much nicer, more innocent, more demure and generally far more feminine. A girl in her late teens is acknowledged everywhere in the world as being at the peak of her desirability and ready for marriage.
Most of the girls I knew from high school got hotter after high school. You may just be into the whole barely legal teens thing.

A lot of people made the great point that marrying a girl BEFORE her college party phase is also a bad idea (perhaps unless you're willing to join her in going out every weekend)

Again, how can we trust the feedback on the forum when a majority of the posters are chasing old women?
Boy do I have the thread for you

 

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I noticed in college and also at clubs/bars that 21+ year old girls were just at the point of decline in beauty. By this point, many of these girls had started to gain a significant amount of weight, voices were deepening a little bit, they were becoming a bit more assertive, cynical and masculine in their personality traits.

The same girls at 18 were thinner, much nicer, more innocent, more demure and generally far more feminine. A girl in her late teens is acknowledged everywhere in the world as being at the peak of her desirability and ready for marriage.

Not in the USA or anywhere else in the industrialized world however. In the US women don't get married until 30. They are often fat, very masculinized, and may have had a handful of boyfriends in the best of scenarios or dozen or hundreds in the worst.

Why does any sane young adult man wait for a woman to turn 30 or 35 to marry them? They've lost so much of their femininity they can't even look the part of a bride no matter how hard they try.

On this forum guys are chasing 30+ 35+ 40+ 50+ and completely ignoring young adult women. This tells me guys who are vets on sosuave must be lower smv if they are consistently chasing women in their 30s 40s and 50s and trying to mindfvck themselves and anyone else willing to listen that these women are "hot."

Again, how can we trust the feedback on the forum when a majority of the posters are chasing old women?
Yeah agreed about vets on this forum…
Going after 25+ isn’t ‘game’ or being a Don Juan.
If you’re able to attract 18-24 8+ girls then you have game.
Follow my posts if you’re interested in getting high smv women
 

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The closest thing to heaven on earth a man can get is fvcking a fresh cute 18yr old. Nothing in this world can compete.
 

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In addition to appearance, their whole aura and demeanor changes. At 18, sweet, bubbly, innocent, full of optimism yet vulnerable.

At 21+ and especially 25+, there's a hardening of the spirit, less of that kind energy. They can take immaculate care of themselves physically, but by their late 20's onward especially, their feminine essence continues to be lost.
 

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The quasi-pornographic fixation with teenaged girls on this forum by men in their 30's and 40's is fvcking creepy.
 

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Nah they usually peak in sexiness 21-23 imo
More curves, less of baby face
 
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I did not notice this while I was in college. 21-25 year old women seem comparable to the 18-20 year old set in terms of looks. Some might start a decline around 25-26. 30-32 is when you'll see the majority have a decline. While there are attractive 30 somethings, they might not even compare to their 20 something selves.



I think a lot of men slide into it. They don't want to break up and face the potential of a long sexual drought. I think a lot of men figure that they've been with their girlfriend a while and they'll keep the sexual frequency going and avoid the pitfalls of looking for new pusssy if they put a ring on it. There are men that want families too.





It depends on how old the male participant on this forum is, @joesbigship. There are men in their 50s-60s who participate here. Expecting a 50 year old man to have a 20-25 year old girlfriend is a bit unreasonable.

Most men are beta males. Most men in their 30s/40s/50s are chasing similarly aged women. I'm 38. When I observe 35-40 year old men, most are pursuing women in the 32-37 range. 1-5 years younger. You have to be really good to get beyond a 5 year age difference and probably use some method other than the Big 3 swipe apps (Tinder/Hinge/Bumble). You might be able to get beyond a 5 year age difference sliding into DMs on Instagram if you have a great Instagram profile showing money and status. Approaching might be the best way to achieve a 5-10 year age gap once you get into your mid-30s.
Change your 5 year age difference to a 10-12 year age difference and I agree.

I can think of about 10 couples I know personally that have anywhere from a 8 to 14 year age gap.

I'm 44 and in good shape.

While I do agree that most women 27 and below will want nothing to do with me, I don't think it's unrealistic for an attractive 29 year old woman to like a man in his 40s.
 
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