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It seems there are some attention wh**res on here, or should I say trolls, who have started bumping up this thread since September 3rd. The reality is, this thread was pretty much dead since the last entry on August 28th.
So you wanted your thread to die the day you had someone offer to wing? It is the 5th now. Do you have plans to sarge to quicksilver or are you a troll? Your 4 month old thread expires within 5 days? Tell your mom your going to be home by curfew (hopefully that is a joke) and put your money were your mouth is.

Balls in your court, lets see if you can even dribble
 
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belividere said:
So you wanted your thread to die the day you had someone offer to wing? It is the 5th now. Do you have plans to sarge to quicksilver or are you a troll? Your 4 month old thread expires within 5 days? Tell your mom your going to be home by curfew (hopefully that is a joke) and put your money were your mouth is.

Balls in your court, lets see if you can even dribble
I was very busy yesterday and had no time to even go on the computer.
I've sent an email out already to Quicksilver to see if we both can schedule in something tommorow since it seems that I'm free at that time.

No, I didn't necessarily want this thread to die when someone offered to wing, I would say that I would like to try different ideas out and see which one of them works or not. Since I'm not used to approaching hot girls on my own, I think seeing how someone who is good at this would be helpful to see how this is done or how they open girls since I'm usually pretty stiff most of the time and I just dont have the energy most of the time to bother with approach of someone I dont know, most likely I'm not compatable with or it is not a good match, or who already has guys in her life, and where I just feel desperate and hard-up when I try. But I want to get over these obsticles, when I see someone whose successful and naturally approaching hot girls and getting a good response, then that would probably spike me up to really challenge me on this.

One of the goals of this thread was to either model after someone who is already good at this, or get a DVD to see how it's done and work on that direction because I think e-books, reading material, or even audio-material doesn't cut it with me since it just feeds the 'analytical mind', which in itself is not really helpful when confronted with actually trying out approaches since this is something that has to click beyond just material to go over and analyze any further.

I've tried this on my own a few times, and the best I've done is say 'hi' to various girls, but haven't really gotten that far beyond that.
 
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To those who believe I'm insincere with myself at best or troll at worst, I've just sent out a PM confirming my intent to sarge along with my contact info.

I'd like to see how this one plays out. It's too bad my mini-DVD camera has to go in for repairs otherwise my wing could have taken DVD movies of me approaching girls, then I could post it on youtube and call it "My misadventures of picking up girls" and become famous....nah! Ok, on with the program.
 

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To anyone calling him a troll please just shut the f*ck up and get over yourselves.
 

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ElStud said:
To anyone calling him a troll please just shut the f*ck up and get over yourselves.
stop feeding this troll, just because he PM'ed somebody to wing for him means nothing, flakeyness and BS reasons to cancel will be a plenty for Luke here.

nobody can be as intimidated by the opposite sex than Luke I mean hell just statistically speaking he would have to interact even by ACCIDENT with another girl. I've never seen this much hesitation in a man..

I mean if he really wasn't a troll don't you think he'd be doing something to better his social life instead of telling us.. how he can't and all this other creative poetic Shakespeare type shyt?

see through the smoke and realize what this all is..

A JOKE.
 

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To those who believe I'm insincere with myself at best or troll at worst, I've just sent out a PM confirming my intent to sarge along with my contact info.

I'd like to see how this one plays out. It's too bad my mini-DVD camera has to go in for repairs otherwise my wing could have taken DVD movies of me approaching girls, then I could post it on youtube and call it "My misadventures of picking up girls" and become famous....nah! Ok, on with the program.
I've lost all hope for you Luke...I really have. I can't even this statement as a glimmer of hope.

But, I'd like to see a FR....
 
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christz said:
stop feeding this troll, just because he PM'ed somebody to wing for him means nothing, flakeyness and BS reasons to cancel will be a plenty for Luke here.
Wrong. I did not flake out or cancel.

cris said:
I mean if he really wasn't a troll don't you think he'd be doing something to better his social life instead of telling us.. how he can't and all this other creative poetic Shakespeare type shyt?

see through the smoke and realize what this all is..

A JOKE.
Why would I need a social life? I've had social lives in University in the past, and guess what - nothing of anything about it today, so what's the point? You just end up being an omega-male in the crowd anyway.

The type of career I'm in doesn't lend itself to allot of time and I cant afford much distractions since it will negatively impact performance which is why I'm turning down the engines on this thing and just focusing my mental energies on making as much deals as I can. Have to put energies where the winner is, and if it's not women, then just have to reinvest my energies whereever there is success.
 

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ElStud said:
To anyone calling him a troll please just shut the f*ck up and get over yourselves.
Maybe he can wing with you and help you distract Amanda's boyfriend while you sarge her.
 
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Current in line of prospects are:
- the gf that was mentioned earlier in this thread, although there is likely a wedge between me and her based on some email I sent earlier. (mom doesn't care which way this one goes)
- mortgage broker that I went out with for lunch and kept talking about how she lives by herself and likes to cook stuff. (mom doesn't care, as long as it's lunch dates)
- a 18/19 y/o girl that has a child that I just reconvened talking to online again. (mom is not aware of this and would likely dissapprove)
- a chinese girl that I can see and talk to on and off has a bf thought. (mom doesn't care)

- was going to see a nice big titted Indian girl but my mom forbade me to see her.

That's four people who are listed in my life. I could have had others but I was picky in terms of their religion/lifestyle. Have this sort of double-standard, in terms of friendships/relationships, I care about what their faith is, but in terms of a hook-up, all of a sudden I dont care as long as they are not deep into something that's sick. Anyway...let's see where this goes by the end of the month.

Come October 1st, I plan to relax the regulations of masturbating and porn, but that can only happen if I dont get into any relationship with the first girl listed there, if I do, then the bans against these things extend - giving an perverse incentive for this to fail if I like viewing some porn, even minutely so, then having a real relationship - not sure what effect it has subconciously.
 
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One of them has ended (18 y/o with child) due to the fact my parents do not approve of her and I told her so as an explanation of why I was a bit distant online, she was hurt that my parents dont like her. Down to three remaining prospect. Will be posting how they all crash and burn later. Lesson learned: Girls do not like playing kid games with 31 y/o guys (i.e. dating her behind my mom's back, etc...) - or having to be approved by parents, thus only date girls that mom would likely approve of to avoid conflict.

Been reading some stuff on here about openers, may try a few of those later on some random girls.
 

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Man Wtf Sky, U Dissaproved One Becuz Of Ur Parents? Its Not Like U Gonna Marry Her. Havent Read Whole Story Lately, But If She Lives Close To U Or Have Seen Her B4 Den Try To Get Bac Wit Her Na Mean
 
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YoungSir4sho said:
Man Wtf Sky, U Dissaproved One Becuz Of Ur Parents? Its Not Like U Gonna Marry Her. Havent Read Whole Story Lately, But If She Lives Close To U Or Have Seen Her B4 Den Try To Get Bac Wit Her Na Mean
She doesn't live close to me, she lives in the east end across the city.

I've seen her once before in December, 2006.

She has a child. My mom's objection is that 'she has a child' and she keeps ringing that over and over again, objecting to her lack of judgement, and fact that other guys have been with her before. I have to duck and hide from my mom if I'm going to be seeing her, to high of a price to pay, and it will come out as there is some sort of rift with that.

It appears that she was genuinely into me. Needlessly to say, it does have experimental value. I was in a similar case with someone last year that my mom dissapproved of (although she wasn't really into me and appeared to have rejected me making my mom's/parents's opinion or dissapproval a sort of moot / ego-saving point), so this was tried for response with someone, that was into me, but had a bit of a stigma (ie. the child) to see how that would play out.

It turns out that she ultimately rejected me because my parent's dont like her and I think that stands to reason as common sence, but she wanted it to end in a good note claiming I'm a great guy and a real sweetie and it's not on a sour note. I think I deal with something forthrightly and head-on and didn't let my 'little head' do the thinking and in the long-run this is probably a good decision.

Other predictions are - my mom will have objections to any sort of casual laison with the mortgage broker that involves isolation in her place, and the other two people appear with their own functions and are not any sort of threat to my parents.

Right now I'm at peace with myself, sexually, emotionally and my real goal at this time is to lose weight as so I'm no longer obese since I think being fat is a game killer, and take it from there.

It felt good for what it's worth, for the record, to have someone who seemed genuinely interested in me and wanting to have a relationship, but unfortunately I couldn't be that 'man' - and going through the motions to have a relationship with ANYONE I guess is ultimately not that big of a deal for me because if the price is too high for something, then it may not be worth it.

The real problem is I'm not really meeting more people and tend to be turning canabalistic to whatever leads are left, even if they are old, stale, or the fire has gone out, rather than looking to meet mroe people.
 

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Iight I See Where U Comin From, Check My Approach Journal Sum Real Stuff In There.

Jus To Let U Kno, I Live In Nyc Yet I Jus Got Invovled Wit 2 Girls Overeas In Germany. Yea I Siad It Germany. Met Dem Online N Now In A Real Relationship Wit Both.

One Of Dem Is Jus Lil Bit Older Den Me,n She Has 2 Kids. Her Babydaddy Is In Da States So I Aint Worryin Bout Him Or Any1 Else. Im Prolly Gonna Get A Ppassport Soon N A Ticket To See Her In A Couple Of Weeks But Durin Dat Time Im Also Goin To Approach Alot Of Girls In Nyc N Hopefully Get Into A Better Relationship.


Also I Had A Realtionship 2years Ago Where She Lived In Louisiana N She Had A Kid. On My Bday She Actually Traveled By Bus Which Took Her 2 Days N She Came Fo My B-day. Mad Drama Cuz I Ddint Really Have A Place For Her To Stay Otha Den A Hotel Fo One Nite.(i Didnt Really Think She Was Gonna Travel Dat Far Fo Me So Neva Really Saved Da Money Fo Her To Stay Wit Me Fo A Week Lol)


So She Comes, Stay Wit In Da Hotel Aroun Me Fo A Day. Den Brought Her To My Parents, Mad Drama. Den I Took Her To My Grandmother House N We Stayed Their Fo 2weeks Until We Had Da Money To Pay Her Bac Fo Her Bus Ticket Ba To Where She Lived At(also Dis Was Durin Da Time When Da Hurricane Katrina Happened).

So My Mom Neva Liked Her But I Still Was Wit Her, But Eventually It Neva Worked Out. U Jus Got To Do Wat U Wanna Do No Matta Wat Any1 Says Ya Dig. Holla Early
 

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What the hell was that?!!

Anywho...

I can't wait until Quicksilver and Luke meet up. It's going to be a great story.

I wonder if he will be able to talk some sense into him.

What are you doing about your weight Luke?
 

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YoungSir4sho said:
Iight I See Where U Comin From, Check My Approach Journal Sum Real Stuff In There.

Jus To Let U Kno, I Live In Nyc Yet I Jus Got Invovled Wit 2 Girls Overeas In Germany. Yea I Siad It Germany. Met Dem Online N Now In A Real Relationship Wit Both.

One Of Dem Is Jus Lil Bit Older Den Me,n She Has 2 Kids. Her Babydaddy Is In Da States So I Aint Worryin Bout Him Or Any1 Else. Im Prolly Gonna Get A Ppassport Soon N A Ticket To See Her In A Couple Of Weeks But Durin Dat Time Im Also Goin To Approach Alot Of Girls In Nyc N Hopefully Get Into A Better Relationship.


Also I Had A Realtionship 2years Ago Where She Lived In Louisiana N She Had A Kid. On My Bday She Actually Traveled By Bus Which Took Her 2 Days N She Came Fo My B-day. Mad Drama Cuz I Ddint Really Have A Place For Her To Stay Otha Den A Hotel Fo One Nite.(i Didnt Really Think She Was Gonna Travel Dat Far Fo Me So Neva Really Saved Da Money Fo Her To Stay Wit Me Fo A Week Lol)


So She Comes, Stay Wit In Da Hotel Aroun Me Fo A Day. Den Brought Her To My Parents, Mad Drama. Den I Took Her To My Grandmother House N We Stayed Their Fo 2weeks Until We Had Da Money To Pay Her Bac Fo Her Bus Ticket Ba To Where She Lived At(also Dis Was Durin Da Time When Da Hurricane Katrina Happened).

So My Mom Neva Liked Her But I Still Was Wit Her, But Eventually It Neva Worked Out. U Jus Got To Do Wat U Wanna Do No Matta Wat Any1 Says Ya Dig. Holla Early
You're freakin hilarious. I don't know if you're serious or not, but I don't know how anyone can take your posts seriously.:)
 
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wolf116 said:
What are you doing about your weight Luke?
Taking kelp, ginger, cinnamion, cabbage salad, spirolina and if I'm able to, trying to burn 586 calories (about an hour's brisk walk) for a total 3500 calories weekly (3500 calories = 1 pound).

So far I've been buying sweets from the health foods store (i.e. 0 saturated fat, natural honey/sugar, etc...), but think I'm just fooling myself as I think anything that's sweet has got to be putting on some pounds.

I just took a purge yesterday (herbal laxitives), and still no difference in pounds, in fact I think I gained weight, seems to be some sort of uphill battle.
 

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I've noticed a recurring theme throughout your entire thread and in most of your posts. I think this is the real reason for your problems.

You set yourself tasks or goals to accomplish, because you want the end result, which is natural. For example, you want to be slimmer, you want to have sex with an attractive woman, you want a relationship, etc.

However, your ideas and methods to combat any of this are never direct, head on, to the point and ultimately; effective. You take the easier, more cowardly but less rewarding options that usually lead to little progress.

For example, getting sex/relationship/dates - You straight away hit the books, you hit internet sites, you use your parents.

For example, losing weight and getting a good body - Walking, herbal stuff, fat free sweets and weird health stuff.

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If you truly wanted to smack this area(s) of your life, instead you would:

For getting sex/dates etc - Get a good haircut, get/use some decent clothes and shoes/trainers and go out and approach lots of women in malls, bookstores, coffee shops, streets, gym, clubs both irectly and indirectly and go for it. That's opening, talking to them and then closing.

For your physique/health - Go running, join a quality gym and do weights and cardio, eat a quality diet with meat, veg, fruit, pasta, rice, eggs, milk etc. in a calorie deficit and actually change the way you look.

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Bottom Line - You take the cowardly, risk free but ultimately less helpful and rewarding options because you never step out of your comfort zones. You don't take plunges and you don't just go for it. It's always meticulous, cowardly and very safe; and you don't take on board advice from others, which means you keep sticking to these 'safe' ideas with little/no return.

Even look at the title of your thread - The date is Feb 2009, which is 1.5 years way, which is a very long time. This encourages you implicitly to do nothing for ages because the deadline isn't too impending as it stands. Also, notice "gf or get laid"; this means in theroy, you could post in 1.5 years saying "I'm still a virgin, but I'm dating this girl now so I guess it's ok." Notice how it's always safe, meticulous and never too ballsy and taking the plunge? Bad attitude to have in life.

MM
 

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I'm not going to coddle you either. But I do have constructive things to say.

Focus on YOU. Not girls. Frankly, you need a plan and you've given yourself some time.

List the things about yourself that YOU don't like. Don't ever try to list out what others might put on the list.

You are thinking. Oh - I'm pathetic! What makes you think that ?

Address them one by one. Here's my list---

1) Not in shape. Tired too often

2) front teeth are not straight.

3) Glasses bother me

4) I'm a little bad at conversation, a bit boring

OK, 4 things to address, 2 of which can be solved just by spending some money. Fix the teeth and the glasses.

The first one. Well, diet and exercise. Bought a bike and an elliptical. Use them. Cook my own food with lots of veggies and proteins. Tons of info about this on the internet. Lost 11 lbs already. Feeling more energetic. Women are noticing me. A real hottie went to a group lunch with me and sat next to me. Wow. Nice.

Build confidence. That'll address #4. It's all been said really. Don't expect that making yourself into the person you want will happen by your deadline. I do admire that you apparently feel you can hold out that long until you are ready to make your move. Just don't forget that you need to fail with women. Just fail with the ones that maybe you aren't all that interested in anyway, just to make convo and practice kino. Hell, I kinoed a lady at work I would never date becasue I just wanted to try it out. Now I can try it on some others.

Learn about fun places to go so when you have a date you'll know exactly what to do. Use the time you gave yourself to find these places. Get used to going there by yourself or buddies. That way you spend no money on a looser. When you have someone with you that you like, you are in control since you 'know the place like the back of your hand" - this will also communicate that you might have brought other women there too.

That's about it. Never give up. Never give in.
 
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