(Purple Pill):'Purple Knight' theorem

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First of all I need to underline yet again that its a purple pill theorem that I was thinking about a long time. It's not a PUA-compatible or DJ compatible theorem as I don't consider PUA or DJ behaviours appropriate in current world of interpersonal relations - PUA/DJ techniques were imo an initial response for blue-pill dating world and spread of third wave feminism in the western hemisphere.

Most of revered dating coaches of Golden Age with all their knowledge and tricks succumbed to their failed idea of having constantly upper hand and power over women they picked up towards depression and other mental issues. Influenced by drugs and jail/'bad boy' culture, looking up and envying 'naturals' they became false prophets and ended like false prophets should end.

Dating coaches nowadays often spread false ideas, repeat old truths and simply want to build their internet businesses on weaker men.

I believe that current dating market requires strong frame which source if coming from training your spirit and body, frame that is a mixture of traditional values and open mind, while pick up should be concentrated on women that you perceive as LTR material only (if no LTR suitable women around, men should pursue other goals that will reinforce his LTR woman pursuit in the future) while dating techniques that are coming off as natural for person using them.

Observations:
- main issue of most of the men is that they want something they really cannot get with the resources and abilities they have in the current moment and they tend to hit above their SMV constantly which creates frustration in them as its obviously a suboptimal idea and waste of their time and assets
- there's a lot of pick up channels managed by guys that are after SMV8 to SMV10 women but its obvious that such women will never date them for anything more than STR as they are not above their targets SMV and they lack in aspect of moral values even
- men tend to run around circles, phucking&dumping whatever they can bragging they cannot find valuable women so 'this cumdumpster will be enough for now' (most of you will spot inconsistency here for sure)
- men 'hunt' for top SMV with false look of themselves (false persona, false photos and experience on social sites) yet once the veil falls, it's woman's fault that things didn't go as they planned
- men are sinners yet they want to find 'the one' yet when they are around 'the one' experience of all poor quality women tell them this one is the same as the others
- men are jaded after their experience with women and they don't want to heal their wounds which make them somewhat equal to third-wave feminist that feel strong misandry towards men
- men start to selectively hate women (usually with exception to their mothers) which is logical flaw and undermines their whole approach to dating
- 'Men after his Purpose' idea is a False God of red pill/PUA communities, as most of men are simply incapable of achieving this abstract Purpose and by Purpose I mean scientific discoveries, artistic work of art that surpass people imagination, making word significantly better for everybody; most men simply will never have enough resources or skills to fulfil the Purpose thus their Purpose is to create another generation of men and women that will be able to fulfil it or yet again prolong the species; the Purpose might be a target worth pursuing only if you feel that you are created to fulfil it; otherwise it's a False God that will make you jaded and spiteful eventually
- men are fascinated by bad boys/villains as 'they seem to get it' but they don't understand that power of villain is based on suboptimal deeds, it's like a flame of lower value when compared with deeds of real man/warrior/protector/enterpreneur/explorer of what's good in life and it happens because the path to true power is much more diffucult and painful thus some prefer 'the easy way' which is their own demise
- exception from the rule above and inequality in world obfuscate the truth above
- red pills under influence of red pill rage believe often that women are evil or immoral while in fact the most immoral and evil people in world history were and are men (mass murderers, psychopats, warlords,, dicators) as they are corrupted by power and corrupt everyone around them

Assumptions:
- man is about creating life for himself and his family. Man that is only about himself his whole life won't create anything that is whole and coherent thus the family is necessary for him to feel fulfilled in his life and in 95% of cases he cannot have family without a woman
- You need to be about yourself but only for sake of your present or future family as putting yourself on pedestal with yourself in mind only is as dangerous as putting a woman on pedestal
- It's mostly about being at peace with yourself and your goals. You need to strive to something bigger, create life for yourself and then ask a proper woman to come by
- accumulation of male power and assets should be used to find the best woman possible and by best woman I mean total sum of looks, personality, intelligence where all those values are OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE for your long term success in life and preservation of your family and legacy
- current world tries to force you to be an obedient blue pill and natural effect of recognising this requirement makes men furious as being rebellious is our natural state of mind, however blue pill imprinting is too strong in society to be undermined by direct conflict/social revolution as some blue pill concepts strongly reinforce positive develomplent of current society (there were never better times to live in world in history than current times and its the truth) thus mixture of blue pill and red pill philosophy is the joker to go through life succesfully
- 'Red Pill' knowledge should be used as an upgrade that will allow you to build your life and your family around you knowing threats that blue pills are unaware of because that's what it really is, it's the real second chance for most of us to 'do things right' this time
 
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Truths:
- if you don't want to change for better then rot and STFU mate, this world is not a fairy tale obviously and you still ended in the better part of it being able to access all the personal development knowledge that lies around you, so use it to change it for better at least in sphere of your personal life
- (this one will be hard for some of you to digest but it's coming) blue pill that tries and creates life for himself and his family is a BETTER PERSON than red pill that is all about himself bragging about power, phuckdumping chicks and achieving Purpose that he cannot achieve anyways being stuck in his own solipsism forever
- Women nowadays know "Game" tricks, you may be more successful with them simply dropping this facade and presenting your true face to the world
- Women are extremelly well educated nowadays which is enough to outmatch natural preference of men to outmatch men in IQ yet and they still outmatch EQ of men most of the time so it's something that men should include in his development of his 'mind, soul and body' and that's why you should work on yourself, mostly to prove that you are the man you think you are or want to be
- You might not encounter 'the One' in your life but you still may attract SECOND BEST woman to your dreamed 'the One" that considering your values and her values, will be extremally good choice for you and your chances for such a woman increase if you will maintain the best possible version of yourself that is your physical and spiritual apex considering your current possibilities - this is very important - no matter how hard life is for now, no matter obstacles, you need to always keep your life as coherent as it can be in your current situation as its the only way to upgrade it if it needs an upgrade
- Being direct and honest in your intentions carries strenght, men should not fear using his strenght of character
- If you are ONLY after looks, sex and money you will draw woman that is after looks, sex and (yours) money eventually and she will be around your SMV.
- If you are after values, you will eventually draw a woman that will be after values or that will cherish this side of your personality and yet again she will be around your SMV
- if you are only after sex and sex is THE THING you need right now then you are desperate. That's the truth. You need to work on your mental health and strenght of character.
- 'phuck&dump/repeat' is a double-aged sword, it's a sign of weakness of your soul, men tend to use this stategy to fulfil their basic need for sex if they cannot find more suitable partner or if they want to get revenge on woman, but actually they are wounding themselves as man loses his natural ability for true affection and deeper feelings for a proper woman he might eventually encounter in his life
- your woman IS NOT first and foremost to fulfil your sexual needs, she is your partner that should be treated with respect and led, slightly dominated in bed from time to time for sake of your relationship dynamics, but other than that cared for and you should treat her purpose as extension of your purpose if you feel that it will reinforce your family, otherwise just lead her where she should be led
- men developing his sexual desires eventually will succumb to them and become their slave and addict
- your power is to be accumulated and to be spread amongst your family members you are responsible for as, just like women, men are servants of nature and their power is temporary, that's why you need to master it to the fullest possible extent, find as worthy partner as you can and create the best life you can for yourself and your family as eventually, time will crush you and you should leave strong family after your death

Ultimate truth:
- every man has his vices&virtues and makes mistakes, it's not about being perfect, it's about consciously striving for perfection in your life knowing well that you will never achieve it and accepting it thus going forward with this bigger purpose in your mind even after the falls or dissapoint yourself from time to time
 
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Man that is only about himself his whole life won't create anything that is whole and coherent thus the family is necessary for him to feel fulfilled in his life and in 95% of cases he cannot have family without a woman.

The point of life is to make babies? If you think that, it's your life, but some of the rest of us see a planet with too many people as it is. I feel fulfilled by not having children. I personally think having kids is selfish. You are bringing them into a world that is getting worse, not better, and fvcking over future humanity, which will be a spiraling upward population competing for dwindling resources, and suffering from the damage done by previous generations.
 
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Man that is only about himself his whole life won't create anything that is whole and coherent thus the family is necessary for him to feel fulfilled in his life and in 95% of cases he cannot have family without a woman.

The point of life is to make babies? If you think that, it's your life, but some of the rest of us see a planet with too many people as it is. I feel fulfilled by not having children. I personally think having kids is selfish. You are bringing them into a world that is getting worse, not better, and fvcking over future humanity, which will be a spiraling upward population competing for dwindling resources, and suffering from the damage done by previous generations.
Having children is selfish? Yeah, somewhat. However I think that having children is the must if you can have them. It makes circle of life 360 degree complete. Considering that you are a first-world civilized person with values and assets you can use those assets to create a superior life for your children and hopefuly they will be better persons than you are. Children of poor and uneducated people shall have poor and uneducated people mentality most of the time. They probably won't change this world for better.

Besides, and please don't be offended, you sound like a soi boi. There's a competition between people around for resources exactly for the purpose of having better lives, smart children etc. Nothing has really changed since generations and actually it's your thinking that needs explanation because obviously your parents thought differently. Basically speaking you are erasing yourself from genetical pool of humanity which is rather foolish. People understand what you are saying but no one will follow this idea as it gives a scent of suicidal tendency.

There's a difference between guy that cannot have children and guy that doesn't want them - first NEEDS to find other purpose of his life, it's his crusade and it's on since the moment he knows that he cannot have children. Guy that can but doesn't want.... well think what you want to leave for the world then. If you are just travelling and speaking about poverty on the world while drinking glass of prosecco then my friend you are lost.

I agree that for.many man the main problem os hitting above smv.
Its not easy to guess our own smv, in a unbias way
Rollo Tomassi picked up 40 women in 17 years or so iirc. I know guy that picked up 50, all between 6+ to 9+ range (picked up, not paid for their company, not played them, didn't read a single PUA book) alpha, natural, ripped, biker, very smart engineer fella'. He did 50 in two years and had somewhat of mental break down because women wanted him for sex only.

Male SMV is not a fixed value as many guys think - guys are assessed by being useful for certain activities (sex/LTR-marriage/STR/beta-friend/Mr'Tool') etc. and conditions change with age as women needs are changing and she needs to be adaptable and adapt the best she can to the world that surrounds her.

Culture of sex and commercialism forced (that's the proper word) FORCED women to be more adaptable = be less faithful because men want to be less faithful.

MGTOWs and Red Pills think that women are of bad character and they are subconsciously going after power to empower themselves (they start to hunt, collect guns, getting delusional and building shelters, playing cowboys, 'manly men') because subconsciously they want to regain power that women value and regain safety they felt before women made them into minced meat. They tend to speak about values and honour a lot.

For women values that matter change all the time because they are primarily responsible for prolonging life on this planet. That's why MGTOWs are really a fellowship of damaged betas/they are lemmings that somehow find out that somebody wanted to push them from the cliff so they start to go towards opposite direction but cliff is still there, they just don't see it yet.

Men nowadays needs to be a mixture of traditional man and trickster really, warrior and bard, sometimes smart coward rather than valiant fool, he needs to remember about traditional values and apply them where there's a necessity to do it but otherwise he needs to adapt to this changing environment and playing John Wayne won't help him as it's not a world for cowboys and old people.

*That's also why going after alpha-male concept might be an outdated concept - either you are alpha in every environment you are in ('natural alpha') OR you are artificial alpha (alpha just in environment around you, for ex. in work) and you cannot pass this energy further too much - this 'artificial alpha' is no alpha really. His power is tied to his fixed position and will go away with a blow of the wind coming from above him.

*That's why women are after 'bad boyz' because they give this "I don't give a phuck who you are, I will slice&dice you if you will cross my way" demeanor but as you can see it's a dangerous/foolish stance for man to act like that. It's just another powerplay with significant risk to impress ppl around them. They are basically like large beacons sending the "I'm stupid manly man, feel free to use me woman" signal and women do exactly that.

*That's why man needs to be smart and able to act in 360 degree manner - you are traditional stable guy during the meeting at work, you are trickster when someone tries to fool you, you are egoist when someone tries to use your traditional guy vibe in the way that will cost you something and you don't want to pay the price, you are bored guy for the girl that is after you and you don't want troubles, you are player for the woman you are interested in, you are 'too old and too busy' for things that don't support your agenda and energetic about things that do and so on.

*That's why sometimes its a good idea to be beta (when courting beautiful woman that wants to find stable beta) but simultaneously go 100% red pill on her if she will try to do something behind your back or if you will see the black clouds on the horizon of your relationship. That's what Purple Knight concept is about. You are chivalrous/blue pill ONLY if it supports your agenda and your agenda should support your longterm goals/ideas for life. Simultaneously you go red pill everytime situation needs you to act like that.

*That's why fixed values are not the baggage you want to carry with you, fixed social positioning that ppl will try to force on you - for ex. 'artificial' alpha male will try to protect you in the fashion that shows you are under his protection - meaning control - while you should accept this protection with smile on your face and pretend you are obedient beta in his presence, you should be prepared to bail on him once he will start treating you as tool that is to be disposed.

Old blue pill guys don't understand that world has changed. They feel treated unfairly, betrayed, but the truth is it's their generation that had ability to keep this transformation under some control. Their own moral code betrayed them and became outdated thus you are obliged to create moral code that works nowadays and flexibility in present times tops any fixed value of traditional behaviour or way of thinking (PUA/MGTOW/soiboi leftism etc.).

You need to be a maverick, an unorthodox/independent-minded person.
 
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yeah I wouldn't even bother to answer because a lot of things you are saying is wrong in some level, woman are amoral, they will do waht is needed for they survival and confort, even if that mean live with a guy who killed her last hub

and its never a good thing be beta, its not healthy for you, and we know very well children shouldn't be used as a definition on you alone, too many variables to do that plus you being rich or not don't mean the kids will be smart, they can be lazy as ****, since they know when daddy kick the bucket he will have more money he can spend on his lifetime.

I say, old your thoughts for now and try to experience more, in some years read this all again and think if it will hold, I do belive most of it is wishfull thinking and lack of experience
 

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yeah I wouldn't even bother to answer because a lot of things you are saying is wrong in some level, woman are amoral, they will do waht is needed for they survival and confort, even if that mean live with a guy who killed her last hub
They are adaptable and not every woman is like that. Do you think that your mother is amoral as well? What do you think? Mine isn't. She is good person.

and its never a good thing be beta, its not healthy for you, and we know very well children shouldn't be used as a definition on you alone, too many variables to do that plus you being rich or not don't mean the kids will be smart, they can be lazy as ****, since they know when daddy kick the bucket he will have more money he can spend on his lifetime.
Being "beta" and "playing beta card" are two different things.

Sometimes behaving like beta can be optimal and I do speak from experience. Remember - be a trickster.

Being rich certainly helps. Regarding children - don't get me wrong - I really don't need them right now but I feel that I may miss not having them in couple of years. It's about planning your future you know - you will get older eventually.

I say, old your thoughts for now and try to experience more, in some years read this all again and think if it will hold, I do belive most of it is wishfull thinking and lack of experience
I do plan to carry on with this system of values in my head so it's quite possible that I'll update you guys.
 
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They are adaptable and not every woman is like that. Do you think that your mother is amoral as well? What do you think? Mine isn't. She is good person.



Being "beta" and "playing beta card" are two different things.

Sometimes behaving like beta can be optimal and I do speak from experience. Remember - be a trickster.

Being rich certainly helps. Regarding children - don't get me wrong - I really don't need them right now but I feel that I may miss not having them in couple of years. It's about planning your future you know - you will get older eventually.



I do plan to carry on with this system of values in my head so it's quite possible that I'll update you guys.
you know what makes my mom a relative good person? my dad, if was on my mom only will, she would do anything possible to please others, she already do this, and others time its me who have to have a hold on the woman so she settle, before that? possible my mom family, but I didn't like her father, so I doubt it was from him.

here is the thing woman are amoral, they will adere morals based on they more imediate group, with is normally family, nowadays is a little more trickier, since family is a alien concept to most people with divorse and single moms we ahve these things around, who only life joy for her is atencion.

and I do belive if I or my dad was out of picture,she would be a lot more worse, there is religion now too I guess, since her "friend" now is devote and try to carry her with her

on the whole trickster, its means more like being fake, you can be misterious, smart and playfull, but you also need to be solid, faking it can bring problems, with also can make the beta traits you want to erase still linger, remember the whole adage of fake till you make it? that is more to train your mind to adere a set of rules is alien to you, so it become natural, and in the end the idea is for you in the long run not do fake it, and just be it
 

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I agree that for.many man the main problem os hitting above smv.
Its not easy to guess our own smv, in a unbias way
Agreed.

I think the dort of genius game to recognise is the bloke who is near broke or living in his mom's basement pulling several deviations above SMV.

Even red pill godfather married epiphany phase despite knowing female nature. Suggests dating below ones SMV to curb hypergamy. Likely given due to male predisposition to getting sheer lazy after getting the girl.

Nice Post. RooshV in his book Game warns men to stay grounded and have something (god, yoga, meditation, etc) to keep you from going full retard hedonism.

I trip lol I meditate, I pray, i. Lift and do yoga. I acknowledge a god/architect of the universe. Likely why i don't commit to full blown hedonism. I still subscribe to the Aaron clarey bachelor pad economics and enjoy the demise. Pillage what you will and can.
 

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Agreed.

I think the dort of genius game to recognise is the bloke who is near broke or living in his mom's basement pulling several deviations above SMV.

Even red pill godfather married epiphany phase despite knowing female nature. Suggests dating below ones SMV to curb hypergamy. Likely given due to male predisposition to getting sheer lazy after getting the girl.

Nice Post. RooshV in his book Game warns men to stay grounded and have something (god, yoga, meditation, etc) to keep you from going full retard hedonism.

I trip lol I meditate, I pray, i. Lift and do yoga. I acknowledge a god/architect of the universe. Likely why i don't commit to full blown hedonism. I still subscribe to the Aaron clarey bachelor pad economics and enjoy the demise. Pillage what you will and can.
its not male diposition to be lazy, is a human being thing, everyone want to lazy around, some just can't because tehy have to live, others learned to force thenselfs to do things to not look like lazy tards.

plus we know very well the ones who tend to go far on letting go after marriage is females
 

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its not male diposition to be lazy, is a human being thing, everyone want to lazy around, some just can't because tehy have to live, others learned to force thenselfs to do things to not look like lazy tards.

plus we know very well the ones who tend to go far on letting go after marriage is females
I think being lazy is a nature thing conservation of energy.
 

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its not male diposition to be lazy, is a human being thing, everyone want to lazy around, some just can't because tehy have to live, others learned to force thenselfs to do things to not look like lazy tards.

plus we know very well the ones who tend to go far on letting go after marriage is females
Men get the girl and its turbo lazy and man boobs.

Hypergamy never sleeps.

Step your game up.
 
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Men get the girl and its turbo lazy and man boobs.

Hypergamy never sleeps.

Step your game up.
Purple pill kind of helps here as well - if you pursue excellence then you won't flood your female partner with too much attention, quite possibly on the contrary so it may be indirect frame maintenance mechanism.
 

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I don't agree with everything the OP wrote, but I do agree with a lot of it. What impresses me is that he has clearly formed his own opinion, his own philosophy, and his own view of the world. Instead of just parroting back everything the PUAs teach. I remember a time on this forum where a post like this would be attacked viciously, because it didn't fit in with the cookie cutter view of the world offered up by the "DJs". I highly respect people who form their own opinions, instead of just blindly following.

The idea about having children being selfish is funny. Because I don't have any children, and I've had people tell me that it is selfish NOT to have children. I can see that actually, because if you're not giving your life and your resources over for your children, then you're just spending everything on yourself. Not having kids has certainly made things easier for me, from a selfish point of view. Although I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot too, and will miss out on more in the future.
 

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I don't agree with everything the OP wrote, but I do agree with a lot of it. What impresses me is that he has clearly formed his own opinion, his own philosophy, and his own view of the world. Instead of just parroting back everything the PUAs teach. I remember a time on this forum where a post like this would be attacked viciously, because it didn't fit in with the cookie cutter view of the world offered up by the "DJs". I highly respect people who form their own opinions, instead of just blindly following.

The idea about having children being selfish is funny. Because I don't have any children, and I've had people tell me that it is selfish NOT to have children. I can see that actually, because if you're not giving your life and your resources over for your children, then you're just spending everything on yourself. Not having kids has certainly made things easier for me, from a selfish point of view. Although I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot too, and will miss out on more in the future.
Everyone should think for himself, sadly most people are sheep that follow the beaten path.
 

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Purple pill kind of helps here as well - if you pursue excellence then you won't flood your female partner with too much attention, quite possibly on the contrary so it may be indirect frame maintenance mechanism.
I ran a train on a chick. Left and we went out to get more girls. I'm the guy girl's mothers warn them of. Not a bad guy lol just misunderstood.

I don't believe in monogamy nor commitment. Leave feelers to women and small children.

As for pushing excellence, i concur. Others have pointed to purpose or hero's journey. A lot of the red pill giys pedal it but for the abundance of achieving excellence, I never see any girls with them. That or they marry epiphany phase or cratered SMV.

Excellency/purpose > women and playing house. I am still going to get girls and take my **** out. A lot of guys will excuse it for being amateur hour.
 
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