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I've noticed ur propensity towards feelings.

You keep mentioning it over and over, easily feel insulted, then would take it upon himself to feel within a word and thinks it's name calling/insult, then due to emotional attachment brings up past threads which I can't even remember.

There's others. Oh yeah, complaints when he's emotionally hurt.

There's so much feelings within you buddy.

Understand this Danger, I have no desire to be your emotional tampon.

Stick to the topic. If you can't then be quiet.
I am staying on topic.

You are now avoiding both of those topics.

1. That you are battling a dictionary regarding definitions.
2. That you are basing the Putin / Poroshenko situation on your feelz (you admitted this) instead of the facts and logic I gave you.

Women use feelings.
Men use facts.

Which one are you?
 
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I am staying on topic.

You are now avoiding both of those topics.

1. That you are battling a dictionary regarding definitions.
2. That you are basing the Putin / Poroshenko situation on your feelz (you admitted this) instead of the facts and logic I gave you.

Women use feelings.
Men use facts.

Which one are you?
You seem engrossed with feelings today.

Here's the topic if you're forgottten;

Are you still confused between the difference of devaluation and depreciation of currency Danger?

Best you use your idle time to research it.
 

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You seem engrossed with feelings today.

Here's the topic if you're forgottten;

The dictionary disagrees with you. But you keep avoiding that.

Just as you avoid the logic of Putin / Poroshenko and instead embrace your feelz.

Address the facts and perhaps your feelz will subside. It is what men do.
 

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I once knew an autistic guy who fussed over the smallest detail in a movie...
Like your fussing over devaluation and depreciation even though the dictionary agrees with me?
 
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No wonder they created 2 separate words because the dictionary agrees with you lmaoooo
Different (separate) words can often (frequently) share the same (similar) meanings (definitions).

Funny (amusing) isn't it?

Let me know when you lose the feminine feelz and we can pickup again with the facts.
 

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Que the special pleading and deceptive bull****.:

Now that is a great smokebomb, I have to hand it to you. But you are excluding some key items.

Oil is in everything so it has massive impacts on prices, but not in a sustainable manner if money supply does not expand to accomodate it.
Reiterating what I said about spending to reach target inflation rate.

When oil spikes and you need to sacrifice spending because everything goes up in price, you consume less overall. This goes for people, companies and governments.
When oil spikes there’s less need for government spending. Inflation is good. people buy **** today because it is cheaper than tomorrow. The government knows this, which is why they’ll bend over backwards to prevent DEflation. Get it?

Government deficits and spending spike when oil prices spike simply because they have no other source for the money. When that new money flows into the economy, to stay for the long haul, ONLY THEN is the inflation permanent.
Wrong. Study the graphs again.

Of course, don't take my word for it. Inflation and devaluation occurred in Roman times due to money clipping (they would shave the metal content from coins).

Or maybe it was those raging oil wars in the middle east back then ;-).
Here comes the obvious deception. Danger knows oil wasn’t society’s most precious resource in Roman times, yet makes the argument anyway.


Here is another chart for you showing that the gold/oil ratio stay very similar over time. I wonder why it doesnt stay the same for USD and oil....hmmmmm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/2012/Dec/Free-Essay-2012-12-19-fig-1.png

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This is a just a lost cause. There’s no point in repeating what myself and others have tried to convey to you regarding the USD.
 

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Que the special pleading and deceptive bull****.:

Reiterating what I said about spending to reach target inflation rate.

When oil spikes there’s less need for government spending. Inflation is good. people buy **** today because it is cheaper than tomorrow. The government knows this, which is why they’ll bend over backwards to prevent DEflation. Get it?

Wrong. Study the graphs again.

Here comes the obvious deception. Danger knows oil wasn’t society’s most precious resource in Roman times, yet makes the argument anyway.

This is a just a lost cause. There’s no point in repeating what myself and others have tried to convey to you regarding the USD.
When oil spikes, things temporarily get more expensive so companies can cover costs.

People and Corporations MUST purchase less stuff as a result. Governments continue purchasing the same stuff, but obviously pay more, thus borrowing and injecting additional money into the economy. This is not the fed targeting inflation, this is the Government issuing more debt to pay more expensive bills.

This is a very simple concept, yet you rage at it.

If the Government did not do so, then the temporary inflation would subside as people adjisted their spending habits (and the Government would have to reduce it's spending to accomodate the temporary price increases).

The Roman example shows how inflation occurs without the energy element in the equation, you are just incapable of seeing it.

It all ALWAYS comes down to money supply and printing. The rest is all noise and smoke.
 
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Different (separate) words can often (frequently) share the same (similar) meanings (definitions).

Funny (amusing) isn't it?

Let me know when you lose the feminine feelz and we can pickup again with the facts.
The fact is it denotes separate action thereby rendering different meaning hence the difference in words.

R u trying to change a fact to suit your incapacity to understand the difference?

I could explain it if you have problems understanding it.
 
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The fact is it denotes separate action thereby rendering different meaning hence the difference in words.

R u trying to change a fact to suit your incapacity to understand the difference?

I could explain it if you have problems understanding it.
I am not changing any fact. The dictionary shows the fact.

The action is not in question (printing). It is the effect being questioned by people who do not understand supply and demand.

The effect has the same meaning as evidenced by the dictionary, which you are throwing a tantrum (feelz again) about.

Printing money causes a devaluation (or depreciation) of the currency. This is a fact, and it's equivalent existed long before oil was around.
 

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I've never understood how printing money does anything, good or bad. You print it: Then what? You give it away? Printing isn't the same as spending, even for the government.

Someone still has to earn the money. The engine still has to run. Simply having more of it lying around doesn't give me faith in anything. The government could print enough to give a million away to everyone, but we'd all be back at square one and the money would have less value. The poorest person would have $1 million, and the richest would have his fortune plus $1 million. Or even if none of us had anything, everyone having $1 million would still be baseline and you'd go from there and some people would end up with more, and some with less. If printing money worked then China wouldn't have starved and killed God knows how many people back in the day.
 

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I am not changing any fact. The dictionary shows the fact.

The action is not in question (printing). It is the effect being questioned by people who do not understand supply and demand.

The effect has the same meaning as evidenced by the dictionary, which you are throwing a tantrum (feelz again) about.

Printing money causes a devaluation (or depreciation) of the currency. This is a fact, and it's equivalent existed long before oil was around.
Duh...

You trying to twist facts to suit your ego doesn't help people to understand the truth. But then maybe I'm wrong, it's your slow processing power that's the main root cause.

I will use an easy example just for your benefit. I'll use the same example I gave @samspade by using a car.

I hope you do understand the simple mechanism of buying and selling a car or if that's too hard let me know.

Devaluation

When a new car is in a showroom is priced at 25k then it's the market price set by dealer/manufacturer.

It's when said car is devalued by 10k to now be priced at 15k either to clear their excess stocks or to gain market share.

The point here is, it's a deliberate action.

This is the meaning of devaluation.

Depreciation

The moment a new car is bought the depreciation starts and the quantum is highly dependant on the age of the car and the mileage, this is decided by market forces. An older car will have less overall productivity.

Can you understand something this simple to apply it to the currency of a country and how it works ?

But I'm betting you're gonna have a hard time processing it all lmaoooo
 

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Duh...

You trying to twist facts to suit your ego doesn't help people to understand the truth. But then maybe I'm wrong, it's your slow processing power that's the main root cause.

I will use an easy example just for your benefit. I'll use the same example I gave @samspade by using a car.

I hope you do understand the simple mechanism of buying and selling a car or if that's too hard let me know.

Devaluation

When a new car is in a showroom is priced at 25k then it's the market price set by dealer/manufacturer.

It's when said car is devalued by 10k to now be priced at 15k either to clear their excess stocks or to gain market share.

The point here is, it's a deliberate action.

This is the meaning of devaluation.

Depreciation

The moment a new car is bought the depreciation starts and the quantum is highly dependant on the age of the car and the mileage, this is decided by market forces. An older car will have less overall productivity.

Can you understand something this simple to apply it to the currency of a country and how it works ?

But I'm betting you're gonna have a hard time processing it all lmaoooo

Great, you are differentiating on intent, which is irrelevant to the discussion. Which also the dictionary does not care about.

Printing devalues (or depreciates) the currency. Whether that was the intention or not.

I understand you are emotional over this, the feelz will subside. Grab some wine and bon bons and throw on a hallmark movie.
 

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I've never understood how printing money does anything, good or bad. You print it: Then what? You give it away? Printing isn't the same as spending, even for the government.

Someone still has to earn the money. The engine still has to run. Simply having more of it lying around doesn't give me faith in anything. The government could print enough to give a million away to everyone, but we'd all be back at square one and the money would have less value. The poorest person would have $1 million, and the richest would have his fortune plus $1 million. Or even if none of us had anything, everyone having $1 million would still be baseline and you'd go from there and some people would end up with more, and some with less. If printing money worked then China wouldn't have starved and killed God knows how many people back in the day.
It essentially robs the savers most, and attacks the income of everyone. It is a hidden tax which few people understand, and they stupidly end up blaming "rich corporations" for it instead of the Government.

These are the same people who think printing money does not cause inflation.
 
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Great, you are differentiating on intent, which is irrelevant to the discussion. Which also the dictionary does not care about.

Printing devalues (or depreciates) the currency. Whether that was the intention or not.

I understand you are emotional over this, the feelz will subside. Grab some wine and bon bons and throw on a hallmark movie.
The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo
 

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The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

1. This is intent. Who cares.

2. Printing is the consequence of intent in this example, inflation and devaluation is the consequence of printing. As I keep saying and you deny.

3. Your tantrums betray you. How is the hallmark movie?
 

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1. This is intent. Who cares.

2. Printing is the consequence of intent in this example, inflation and devaluation is the consequence of printing. As I keep saying and you deny.

3. Your tantrums betray you. How is the hallmark movie?
Is this ur attempt to cover up your obvious lies and innuendos?

Soon you will start complaining that Spaz has insulted you with the truth lmaooo
 

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Is this ur attempt to cover up your obvious lies and innuendos?

Soon you will start complaining that Spaz has insulted you with the truth lmaooo

What lies?

I have said all along that printing devalues (or depreciates) the value of a currency.

The socialists of the site take great issue with that. Ask Venezuela how it is working for them.
 

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What lies?

I have said all along that printing devalues (or depreciates) the value of a currency.

The socialists of the site take great issue with that. Ask Venezuela how it is working for them.
Roflmao you still don't understand it do you?

Or you're trying to lie once more?

Either way here's the truth;

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo
 
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