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Anyone else have any experience with this. I started seeing my wife's friend after she learned we are fairly open like this and showed a lot of interest in me.
 

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What exactly is the nature of this open relationship? Is your wife banging other dudes?
 

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The few I knew about ended badly.
 

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For her and I it's single sided. I see other women but she doesn't see others.
That doesn't make any sense. Either that's not the truth; or she's getting dirt on you so that she can have your butt in family court; or she sexually gets off to the idea of you banging other women, but if that's the case, she's not going to trust you eventually anyway and she's going to have your butt in family court.

Now, if you want us to help you, you have to be 100% honest here. How sure are you that she is not banging other dudes?
 

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I have no experience with open relationships. I perceive them as difficult to navigate.

In the Manosphere, Caleb Jones aka Blackdragon is a big proponent of open relationships. He has a whole system around non-monogamy. He does not believe that neither men nor women are meant to be monogamous for long periods of life. Women are better at short term monogamous relationships under 5 years. In Caleb's open relationship system, the expected outcome if you apply his system properly is that you as a man will have more extra-primary relationship sex partners than your primary girlfriend has side male sex partners.

The problem with open relationships is that most men don't do open relationshps well. Additionally, I perceive that Caleb's system would be challenging to do well. I think most men who do open relationships end up in a situation where their primary girlfriend or wife is having more sex with additional partners than they are. Even a 40 or 50 year old year woman who is not overweight in an open relationship will get more sex than a 40 or 50 year old not overweight man.

Open relationship guys and swinger guys are not technically cuckolds if a narrow definition of cuckold is used. A cuckold is the husband of an unfaithful wife according to dictionary.com. The concept of faithfulness only occurs in a monogamous environment. If monogamy is not expected, then there is no unfaithfulness. However, in the real world, open relationship guys and swinger guys look like bigger beta males and cuckolds.

A challenging situation arises when a woman becomes pregnant in an open relationship or swinger scenario and the baby is not from the sperm of the primary partner. If the primary partner stays and raises a baby from a non-primary partner, that is cuckoldry as I would understand it.

Swingers tend to be a little bit older. 35+. Lesser pregnancy risk. I'm not sure how common open relationships are with the 18-34 year old crowd. I've also thought of open relationships as something that develops later in life (35+) as people become bored with primary partners and the monogamous framework and move from a closed relationship to an open one.
 

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That doesn't make any sense. Either that's not the truth; or she's getting dirt on you so that she can have your butt in family court; or she sexually gets off to the idea of you banging other women, but if that's the case, she's not going to trust you eventually anyway and she's going to have your butt in family court.

Now, if you want us to help you, you have to be 100% honest here. How sure are you that she is not banging other dudes?
My wife and I have done the swinging thing in the past. She is no longer interested in other people for the most part but allows me to explore that on my own. She is bi and gets off on me being with other women.
 

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I have no experience with open relationships. I perceive them as difficult to navigate.

In the Manosphere, Caleb Jones aka Blackdragon is a big proponent of open relationships. He has a whole system around non-monogamy. He does not believe that neither men nor women are meant to be monogamous for long periods of life. Women are better at short term monogamous relationships under 5 years. In Caleb's open relationship system, the expected outcome if you apply his system properly is that you as a man will have more extra-primary relationship sex partners than your primary girlfriend has side male sex partners.

The problem with open relationships is that most men don't do open relationshps well. Additionally, I perceive that Caleb's system would be challenging to do well. I think most men who do open relationships end up in a situation where their primary girlfriend or wife is having more sex with additional partners than they are. Even a 40 or 50 year old year woman who is not overweight in an open relationship will get more sex than a 40 or 50 year old not overweight man.

Open relationship guys and swinger guys are not technically cuckolds if a narrow definition of cuckold is used. A cuckold is the husband of an unfaithful wife according to dictionary.com. The concept of faithfulness only occurs in a monogamous environment. If monogamy is not expected, then there is no unfaithfulness. However, in the real world, open relationship guys and swinger guys look like bigger beta males and cuckolds.

A challenging situation arises when a woman becomes pregnant in an open relationship or swinger scenario and the baby is not from the sperm of the primary partner. If the primary partner stays and raises a baby from a non-primary partner, that is cuckoldry as I would understand it.

Swingers tend to be a little bit older. 35+. Lesser pregnancy risk. I'm not sure how common open relationships are with the 18-34 year old crowd. I've also thought of open relationships as something that develops later in life (35+) as people become bored with primary partners and the monogamous framework and move from a closed relationship to an open one.
My wife and I are 40 and so is the woman I am seeing. We have done the swinger thing for 10 years on and off again. The woman I am seeing has been divorced for three years. A person weve known for years but not really a close friend. She's really a catch but isn't interested in dating or marriage. She's open to the idea and is eager to spend time together.
 

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Your wife can use this against you legally in the future.

You have kids?
 

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Your wife can use this against you legally in the future.

You have kids?
I also skydive and could die. But I do it anyway because it's fun.

I'm don't live my life in fear of everything that could happen.

My wife and I talk these things over. I'm not worried
 

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I also skydive and could die. But I do it anyway because it's fun.

I'm don't live my life in fear of everything that could happen.

My wife and I talk these things over. I'm not worried
If you don't have children with this woman and she's 40, why would you marry her? You can't be committed and not committed at the same time.
 

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If you don't have children with this woman and she's 40, why would you marry her? You can't be committed and not committed at the same time.
We have kids and have been married a long time. We've always been sexually open. (Played around with others) I believe people should pairbond but not be sexually and emotionally monogamous. That's my personal take on it.
 

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Again I'll ask the question. Does anyone else here have any actual experience with this? I'm interested in hearing from someone with actual experience.
Ive had threesomes were my girl was inviting girls in. The closest I got to a herim.
My thoughts? Treat them like your women. Basic game rules apply
 

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A lot of these story that feminist has created ,It just making much sense to married an escort now days knowing modern women true nature, at least an escort makes tons of money honest about it and didn't involves emotionally with clients. and shes HOT!
 
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