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I don’t mean low interest, just middling interest.

This is why social circle game offers the highest probability of banging a hot girl, if she’s in that circle. You’ll notice that average-looking men who have the most success punching above their weight are very socially well-connected.
Very True!
 

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Filtering for high interest is easy. You need to have a low-investment first date with her. Don't take her for meals/elaborate dates. It should be a coffee or a low-key drink somewhere close to your place. Go in with the mindset of "I wonder if this chick is going to impress me and connect with me" - this puts you in a non-needy mindset with no agenda. Women sense this and they like it. If you have pvssy-focused mindset it is boring for her.

After the date, I send her away floating. I wait for her to text me first. It's usually something like "I had a really lovely time with you blah blah blah..."

From here you escalate to second date meeting at your place. Again, no dinner or anything elaborate. Low key wine and music. The focus of the date is that she gets to spend time with you.
 

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I don’t mean low interest, just middling interest.

This is why social circle game offers the highest probability of banging a hot girl, if she’s in that circle. You’ll notice that average-looking men who have the most success punching above their weight are very socially well-connected.
This is orbiting, dude. Social Circle game is awful on a number of levels - Firstly, you're going in under the guise of friendship which is terrible for masculine/feminine polarity. Secondly, you lose all your mystery because you're vetted and known by the social circle. Thirdly, if you're a dirty scumbag (like me) then you pretty much ruin the circle after 1 or 2 bangs.

Operate in the shadows as a lone wolf and you have all the power, for far less effort. But you do need to get good at cold approaching. That's hard to get good at if you're starting from scratch.
 

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This is orbiting, dude. Social Circle game is awful on a number of levels - Firstly, you're going in under the guise of friendship which is terrible for masculine/feminine polarity. Secondly, you lose all your mystery because you're vetted and known by the social circle. Thirdly, if you're a dirty scumbag (like me) then you pretty much ruin the circle after 1 or 2 bangs.

Operate in the shadows as a lone wolf and you have all the power, for far less effort. But you do need to get good at cold approaching. That's hard to get good at if you're starting from scratch.
Social Circle is bad....?????? More hookups from social circles than others. Probably EVERYONE has had a hookup from a social circle at one time or another and some more often. What do you mean by ruin... does the circle disintegrate because of internal shame or is it just that the other guys through you out?
 

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Social Circle is bad....?????? More hookups from social circles than others. Probably EVERYONE has had a hookup from a social circle at one time or another and some more often. What do you mean by ruin... does the circle disintegrate because of internal shame or is it just that the other guys through you out?
Social circle for getting women is extremely limited and it's bad because of the reasons I mentioned. Yes, you can get hook-ups and girlfriends from orbiting in social circles, but it is a real gutter beta strategy for attracting women.
 

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social circle is where guys without good looks are more likely to be able to score a hot girl.
Average looking guys with strong Game get a lot of pvssy. I have seen it first-hand.

If you're an average looking dude then the power is in your hands.

Here's my advice to average looking dudes:

Step 1 - stop simping.
Step 2 - stop simping.
Step 3 - STOP simping. For the love of God... please stop.
 
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