Online dating now destroying social circles

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Like idiots on this forum included who don't understand or don't want to understand that toxic masculinity is toxic to men
What is toxic masculinity? Elaborate.

All I know is being less manly is toxic to men.

All I can see is feminized men being bullied on a daily basis.

All I noticed are that men who has no masculinity training turn toxic to society at large.
 
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Looks like everyone is turning into an incel now because of social media. You go on the younger discussion board and MatureDJ will post threads from incel sites and Forever Alone reddit threads. Go on the Mature section and now this. AttackFormation is a true blackpiller. Some of these threads are better than what you would find on an actual incel site.
There's really nothing incel about what I posted, but you are so insecure and incapable of thinking outside of the social rules that you have an emotional reaction to anything that appears negative in any way.
 

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Well, I am noticing a deterioration even of social circle game now. It used to be, if you met someone in your social circle you clicked with it was essentially a guarantee you would date. Now, the sense of obligation, scrutiny, and "settling" in a social circle makes the empty abundance of carefree online dating more appealing to women and even some men.

The funny thing is, my social circles are blatant meat markets that the women go to mostly just to meet men, yet can't pull the trigger in the group. They keep going anyway lol.
The digital age has to have a massive impact of human behavior/ culture at some point.

Free love/ casual sex, something that only really went mainstream with the sixties, may have peaked, and and may now be in decline.

The next generation may look back at the past with a sense of bewilderment - ewwww, people actually met in real life for real sex. The future looks to be one of simulated sex, one inundated with pornography, one where the building of a real relationship is increasingly difficult because people are largely incapable of it. Eros, the principle of life, will have fled to the virtual digital world, which is really a dead world, the principle of death, an underground world of Hades.

Our transitional generation probably has a foot in either world.
 

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Given the realities, I know I can't compete in this new culture.

What I can do is maintain my own integrity [and not allow bitterness, or self pity, to get the better of me], on the chance that a women [not women in general] sees the value. Here a woman's personality and character is of more importance as opposed to women's outward appearance, which is pushed by advertising and pornography. It's as much a question of my own character as it is of the woman's.

Not to take this route is to remain in a miserable world of illusions and appearances in my opinion. There is not a lot I can do about the world, but there are some things I can do about my self.
 

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Further to this, why is it that a culture of casual sex first suited men and now suits women?

Because men are leaders, and lead the culture.... women, in the mass, tend to be followers. There was a cultural lag, where men were more adept at the new culture. Once women caught up... game changer.

Men have to lead again now in my opinion in order to change a culture where the feminine imperative predominates, and men in the mass are feeling dis-empowered.

Basically, a generation of men got to spend/ squander the 'capital' that had been built up over the generations. Cultural revolution/ disaster. And this starts at the grass roots level, not in some grand social scheme. Macro-cosmic insights should be worked out in the microcosm of our own lives.
 
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The digital age has to have a massive impact of human behavior/ culture at some point.

Free love/ casual sex, something that only really went mainstream with the sixties, may have peaked, and and may now be in decline.

The next generation may look back at the past with a sense of bewilderment - ewwww, people actually met in real life for real sex. The future looks to be one of simulated sex, one inundated with pornography, one where the building of a real relationship is increasingly difficult because people are largely incapable of it. Eros, the principle of life, will have fled to the virtual digital world, which is really a dead world, the principle of death, an underground world of Hades.

Our transitional generation probably has a foot in either world.
Excellent.
 

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Basically, a generation of men got to spend/ squander the 'capital' that had been built up over the generations. Cultural revolution/ disaster. And this starts at the grass roots level, not in some grand social scheme. Macro-cosmic insights should be worked out in the microcosm of our own lives.
Our decline started with the World War II generation, the "Obedient" (like dogs) Generation, who went to college on that G.I. Bill and OBEYED Liberal "social engineering" professors (authority).
 

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Further to this, why is it that a culture of casual sex first suited men and now suits women?

Because men are leaders, and lead the culture.... women, in the mass, tend to be followers. There was a cultural lag, where men were more adept at the new culture. Once women caught up... game changer.

Men have to lead again now in my opinion in order to change a culture where the feminine imperative predominates, and men in the mass are feeling dis-empowered.

Basically, a generation of men got to spend/ squander the 'capital' that had been built up over the generations. Cultural revolution/ disaster. And this starts at the grass roots level, not in some grand social scheme. Macro-cosmic insights should be worked out in the microcosm of our own lives.
Women didn't catch up, there was an enforcement by white knights who have now helped to hand the power over to women, enforced by men. Lol, all of this female empowerment garbage is absolutely laughable. You can't have female "empowerment" without men, end of story.
 

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Men are the standard setters, standard bearers. What's required are 'knights' of quite a different order.
 

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Women didn't catch up, there was an enforcement by white knights who have now helped to hand the power over to women, enforced by men. Lol, all of this female empowerment garbage is absolutely laughable. You can't have female "empowerment" without men, end of story.
I guess it would be near blasphemous to suggest that there is something 'feminine' about running about after women at the whim of your emotions?

I'm not downplaying Eros here, but saying restraint of that passion [not repression] is a very manly attribute. It's valuing women, but not over-valuing them. There is a higher order, a rational one, which would evaluate [dare I say discriminate?] women in the mass. There is something completely absurd [and emasculating] about making women your mission in life.

It's actually in the restraint of this erotic energy that we achieve the best things in life [instead of the waste and dissipation of it]. This is the idea of channeling it into something more worthy.

And this is not illusory. Eros is not just some biological drive, but a metaphysical instinct. It directs us toward the intelligible world in which we have a foot just as we do this one. This is the Greek/ classical/ medieval vision, one that certainly resonates with my own instincts.
 
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If men stopped using all social media and online dating what do you think would happen?
 

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If men stopped using all social media and online dating what do you think would happen?
Women would go NUTS. I mean, they already ARE infinitely over-valuing themselves. Men used to SLAP their wives, some even Beat their wives. This is a thing of the past obviously, yet women go on being astronomically ran on their emotions, so they Raise the standards by which men must meet based off of the sundry men who are in constant hunting of their wares (which they flaunt to the nth degree or like never before in history). It's like a horse stands naked, and another horse comes walkin along and likes what he sees and mounts that horse's pvssy. We haven't gotten quite to that point to pre-historic human times, but we're almost there with shedding all clothes. I mean, who needs clothes anyway?? will be the norm. The envelope keeps getting pushed with each passing year.

It's not gonna happen I predict any time soon, but if it did, women would truly be "independent" then. They're just genociding themselves, genociding their lineage by this unbridled emotion (no direction from rational male in their lives, not even their absent daddies).
 
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I wish I could experience what meeting women was like pre-internet just to see if there is a difference. By the time I was 18 it was 2011. At that point there was already dating sites, and social media like playahead and facebook as well. Instagram had already been out since 2010. Then in 2012 tinder came out. So I haven't really known anything else except in school.
When i was a kid, the thing was msn messanger. Was very much a girly thing. I distinctly remember me and a few guys laughing at the idea of these girls in their houses messanging each other rather than actually going outside.

First i realized about social media proper was when an ex was slagging me off on myspace lol

Was watching a film called "the acid house" set in 1990's Scotland and the packed streets shot me back. Really different time. Being a 90's kid was hilarious in many respects. My childhood was closer to my parents than the kids now.

Regarding the original post, long way off that here in my local.
 

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Here you guys have it from the horse's mouth:


As I quote LA85 saying in my signature, women have an overwhelming abundance of men and validation today and it affects them psychologically. You get overchoice, jadedness and the correlations between social media and both narcissism & worse selfesteem. We're living in a socially revolutionary time that can't be compared to life 100 or even 20-30 or fewer years ago.

I wonder what will happen in the coming decades...
 
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Here you guys have it from the horse's mouth:


As I quote LA85 saying in my signature, women have an overwhelming abundance of men and validation today and it affects them psychologically. You get overchoice, jadedness and the correlations between social media and both narcissism & worse selfesteem. We're living in a socially revolutionary time that can't be compared to life 100 or even 20-30 or fewer years ago.

I wonder what will happen in the coming decades...
Words no action. Deleting dating apps is one thing but how about a woman who deletes her social media. I have yet to meet one. She is a joke.
 

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Here you guys have it from the horse's mouth:


As I quote LA85 saying in my signature, women have an overwhelming abundance of men and validation today and it affects them psychologically. You get overchoice, jadedness and the correlations between social media and both narcissism & worse selfesteem. We're living in a socially revolutionary time that can't be compared to life 100 or even 20-30 or fewer years ago.

I wonder what will happen in the coming decades...
Bro I am watching that video you posted now. Dayuuum this chick confirms most of what we have been saying. She also confirms what I have been suspecting. This chick is emotionally damaged from all the dysfunction that comes from dating a lot of men. She also has so many perceived options that she can never be satisfied in a relationship.

This video is the RedPill. This video should be viewed by every millennial male. Thank you for posting this
 
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"You're a good looking guy. The girls must be all over you" (I've heard this "the girls must be all over you" in real life too). I dunno if they're just massaging my ego or if they just don't know what the reality for men is.
Women and baby boomer men think being a male 7 is good, but that is just entry level to the Game at best. It's because they are not familiar with the dramatic changes.
 
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