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Lately, I’ve been gaming superhard, with the express intention of either closing a girl intensely or blowing her out. Some strange stuff has happened. I’ve come to the realization that blowouts are not permanent, but that post-blowout game is something I need a good deal of work on still.

Scenario 1: I overneg a girl where she works and she goes from laughing uncontrollably to screaming and running into the back room. I figured the sarge was blown. But when I saw her and her friend out at a bar the next weekend, they opened me and were really flirty. I couldn’t make this go anywhere though since it was too near closing time.

Scenario 2: I game a 9.5 in set with 8s. The 9.5 is reacting marvelously to my negs. She really wants my attention, but it too proud to openly ask for it. The obstacles LOVE me. But then, all of a sudden, the obstacles become really defensive of their friend and turn on me. I apologize slightly and re-engage them. The 9.5 rolls up a piece of paper and throws it at me to get my attention (I’ve been blatantly ignoring her). I bust her on her rudeness. She shows interest, but her friends get pissed at me for being an ******* and run away. The last half hour of the night 9.5 is staring at me mesmerized, but when I try to re-engage the group, the obstacles give me mad attitude, so I just say, “whatever” and walk off. She stared at me even more afterwards.

Scenario 3: Gaming a 9 with two 7s as friends. As above, I blow her friends out and they get defensive, so I eject with, “ok, nice meeting you.” At the end of the night, the 9 re-opens me, and is totally into me. I get deep into qualification, but then her friends drag her off… even though she physically resists them very strongly.

Scenario 4: An 8 walks by and says, “you are waaay to sexy for THIS place” but doesn’t even break stride. Like she knows she can’t have me. She was right too. I just continued talking to my wing. In this case it’s like I blew her out without even opening my mouth.

Scenario 5: I say something mildly rude to a stripper, and she cries and runs to the back room. When she returns she's totally complimentary and begs me to take her number.

So I’ve come to the conclusion that gaming girls you’ve blown out before is VERY doable, BUT I think there are some subtleties I’m missing. I’ll post back with new developments as they come. Bad as it sounds, I’m thinking that re-opening with a mild compliment may be the way to go. It feels weird for me to compliment though because the girl never sufficiently qualified herself for me. Thoughts?

-XANEUS
 

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Did you get anything from any of these?

Or they just wondered why u werent paying them atention cause they are ego *****es?
 

Kineti[C]harm

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What I would do inn a situation where I got mad signs from a hot girl but her friends where mad at me or something I would give them attitude/Negs asap like they are air! Something like "Your girls are really jealous of you aren't they" or "Girls girls, there are plent of guys around, go play" or something like that.
 

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When you see these girls again, go AFC-ish. Talk to them, give them some rapport and/or slightly amusing routines.

This is ok because you came across as being unattainable at first imression and going AFC would lower your perceived value to something that they can attain.

Think Brad Pitt. Most girls would think he is unattainable right?

But if Brad Pitt approaches a girl, he wouldn't be negging her or anything. Why? Because if he does, he will be perceived as an *******. C&F won't work with him either.

So the only approach he can do is go super friendly. That way chicks have already seen his perceived value, and now that he is trying to engage them in normal conversation, he is a COOL guy.

However, if you don't have perceived value at the start, like a normal LAMO and you go for rapport straight away, you get blown out.
 

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I hate to say this...

Your messages make me think one of two things...
1) your hit rate is so high you are worried about the misses.
2) your miss rate is so high you are worried about he hits.

It is very common among guys who haven't had a lot of exp with girls to not read the signals and totally totally miss what girls are thinking. If anyone reading this thinks they may be in this catagory the answer is to simplify and not assume interest unless it is acted on. IE what is your number, well nice to meet you I gotta run give me my goodbye kiss etc.

It is less common for girls to really like a guy but resist him for no clear reason. It does happen but it isn't that common usually a defense reaction to avoid getting hurt. If you are having this happen to you a lot something is wrong or you are very very high on the looks scale DJ9 or DJ10 area and they are intimidated by you. If that the case drop to 7 and 8s and see if the behavior changes cause you will find some women in this range who are immune to DJ10s. They use error checking because they haven't had sun shine blown at them all their lives and actually know what is up and can sense the DJ act better than 9s and 10s can. All the SS and NLP stuff doesn't stand up to smart girls who have some exp to compare you to (otherwise you would learn a NLP for being president and become president).

If you are doing the jerk thing ie neg hits you may hit psychological issues with women. Some women (stripers come to mind) have major issues and if you can hit issues you will have major emotional impact on them even if you are not the cause of that impact . This is why jerks get girls. But jerks don't have happy lives in general.
 

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Yes but some guys are different. I know I can be intimidating to girls because I can have some very intensive eyes (I had a girl get dirtscared of these) and I'm also so confident that some girls are afraid of that.... Alot of girls are afraid to compliment me etc (This is not a joke, seriously I got alot of this laid straight to me from some newer female friends when we had a dare drinking game...)
 

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Whenever you are faced with sets of friends and especially sets of c0ckblocking friends, you must then ISOLATE your target.

Pull her away to a less loud area where you can talk to her one-on-one (some place in the bar, the parking lot, your place etc.)

Wait till she leaves her friends to go the bathroom etc. (chicks do their own strategic isolation move hoping you take the bait and meet them halfway.)

And then the overblows where she comes back to you later, hey, step up to the plate, you got her then. If you make a chick cry with negs, she remembers the intense emotional feelings you gave to her. That, in and of itself, guarantees you another shot. Chicks crave emotional highs and lows, it is like adrenaline for them. Give a chick strong emotional feelings and they can't give it up.
 
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