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If this were under my control then there would be no desire.
Epictetus, The Enchiridion


Pay special attention to 1 and 2. (please note: this takes time. A paradigm shift must take place. I assure you, it is possible to master one's desires , often by simply choosing not to desire it anymore. I know that might sound TOO simple, but like I said, it takes time. Stoicism takes training; reflexion, awareness and analysis.)

1. Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.

The things in our control are by nature free, unrestrained, unhindered; but those not in our control are weak, slavish, restrained, belonging to others. Remember, then, that if you suppose that things which are slavish by nature are also free, and that what belongs to others is your own, then you will be hindered. You will lament, you will be disturbed, and you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed.

Aiming therefore at such great things, remember that you must not allow yourself to be carried, even with a slight tendency, towards the attainment of lesser things. Instead, you must entirely quit some things and for the present postpone the rest. But if you would both have these great things, along with power and riches, then you will not gain even the latter, because you aim at the former too: but you will absolutely fail of the former, by which alone happiness and freedom are achieved.

Work, therefore to be able to say to every harsh appearance, "You are but an appearance, and not absolutely the thing you appear to be." And then examine it by those rules which you have, and first, and chiefly, by this: whether it concerns the things which are in our own control, or those which are not; and, if it concerns anything not in our control, be prepared to say that it is nothing to you.

2. Remember that following desire promises the attainment of that of which you are desirous; and aversion promises the avoiding that to which you are averse. However, he who fails to obtain the object of his desire is disappointed, and he who incurs the object of his aversion wretched. If, then, you confine your aversion to those objects only which are contrary to the natural use of your faculties, which you have in your own control, you will never incur anything to which you are averse. But if you are averse to sickness, or death, or poverty, you will be wretched. Remove aversion, then, from all things that are not in our control, and transfer it to things contrary to the nature of what is in our control. But, for the present, totally suppress desire: for, if you desire any of the things which are not in your own control, you must necessarily be disappointed; and of those which are, and which it would be laudable to desire, nothing is yet in your possession. Use only the appropriate actions of pursuit and avoidance; and even these lightly, and with gentleness and reservation.
 

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How come its toxic when its the truth ?

I ask again, would u prefer i lie to you and protect ur tender feelings like what all the career baby sitters here does so that you remain in the same shiethole u r in now for years to come ?
What loser attacks people who are on a nofap streak? Only you are doing.that. Do you realize that?

Like I said you are on the wrong thread. You can pm me or write in a different thread I have posted on. Here you sound like a hater. Maybe you have never done nofap for over a week? What is your deal?
 

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I've been doing boxing since I'm 17 and other types of sports, am still active but not as in my teens.

U r just too free with ur time, if u r busy with life, none of this shiet will matter correct ?

Thats the root cause.

But if u feel incredible lying to ur own brain, that's fine too.
I study at the university in Russia, in Russian, I'm totally overwhelmed. I'm an expat + all the things I've said about my lifestyle. I barely have time to eat. I'm busier than you, trust me.
What are you trying to prove? You don't believe in noFap, all good. Don't pollute the thread and leave us alone. Don't be a d!ck and get out of here.
 

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It means first I need to ask God to forgive me, then there are admin issues that also use up more time.
I assume you have read Leviticus. Purity laws.

You could always desire more to be clean and view the other as unclean.

Sometimes letting go of compulsions, obsessions and so called "addictions" is simply a matter of desiring the opposite more.

 

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I assume you have read Leviticus. Purity laws.

You could always desire more to be clean and view the other as unclean.

Sometimes letting go of compulsions, obsessions and so called "addictions" is simply a matter of desiring the opposite more.

OT purity standards are lower than NT standards. OT allows divorces and does not outrightly ban using prostitutes if you are not married (you can only commit adultery if you are married). The NT bans prostitutes.and any unclean thoughts about them because the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit rather than an external building in the OT.

If I am weak in any resolve then in books like Leciticus only issue is homosexuality, incest and adultery where sexuality is brought up. Fapping is just an unclean discharge that you only need to wash your underware. Nothing is said about lusting after single women and fappung. That wont be the right book to look at for me. NT books are the way to go.

I can list several prostitues in the OT, Rahab was one, Judah paid for one (his half sister tricked him), Samson used one and he did not lose his annointing since she did not cut his hair, there is no stoning death penalty for either prostitutes or men (who are not married) who use them, but it is discouraged as not being good for society as a while (the land becomes full of wickedness), but on an individual level its not as serious as outright adultery, incest or homosexuality or people would have been stoned for it right?
 

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I study at the university in Russia, in Russian, I'm totally overwhelmed. I'm an expat + all the things I've said about my lifestyle. I barely have time to eat. I'm busier than you, trust me.
What are you trying to prove? You don't believe in noFap, all good. Don't pollute the thread and leave us alone. Don't be a d!ck and get out of here.
U r not an expat, dont be delusional, u r a student.

If u r so busy with life and its good, you won't even have the time nor luxury to be thinking abt this nonsensical ideas.

U will be too busy enjoying life as it is.

Now u r busy suffering life and not enjoying it, that's why ideas such as no fap crops into ur mind.

And u r mad right now because I created doubt since u were putting ur hopes that this will solve ur problems.

It doesn't, it hasn't and will never UNLESS you find the root cause of ur misery.

Tackle that and this sort of delusional miracles will never appear in ur mind.
 

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What loser attacks people who are on a nofap streak? Only you are doing.that. Do you realize that?

Like I said you are on the wrong thread. You can pm me or write in a different thread I have posted on. Here you sound like a hater. Maybe you have never done nofap for over a week? What is your deal?
The only losers here are the ones doing nofap and those idiots thats encouraging it.

If nofap has worked, it would have been done our ancestors and passed down.

If it would have work, it would be hailed by the scientific community.

However none has mentioned it but only losers dable in it, why ?
 

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Ok @Spaz now you really are crazy. You are really attacking nofap and everyone who believes in this. How can I take you seriously? Would you not think to just shut up, watch me go to day 100 or Sept 25, and then here me say "nothing happened, see nofap does not work" rather than foolishly try to stop an experiment that COULD work.

I have nothing to lose and possibly to gain spiritually by going on nofap until Sept 25. If I dont find a woman by then them fine I will break it. But until then keep quiet.
 

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Ok @Spaz now you really are crazy. You are really attacking nofap and everyone who believes in this. How can I take you seriously? Would you not think to just shut up, watch me go to day 100 or Sept 25, and then here me say "nothing happened, see nofap does not work" rather than foolishly try to stop an experiment that COULD work.

I have nothing to lose and possibly to gain spiritually by going on nofap until Sept 25. If I dont find a woman by then them fine I will break it. But until then keep quiet.
Just because I've spoken the truth, u r accusing me of an attack, is this the of attitude of a winner or a whinner who is also a loser in general?

State which part or sentences I wrote that is a lie.
 

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Just because I've spoken the truth, u r accusing me of an attack, is this the kind of attitude of a winner or a whinner who is also a loser in general?
Tell yourself that. You have spoken your position that you are against nofap. Therefore you have an agenda and nothing you are saying can be trusted. People can respect the fact you have an opinion, but being a d1ck on a self-improvement thread is what haters do.
 

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My mother saying I have too much belly-fat. I am eating healthy and exercising here and there so I don't see why I have belly fat like that. Its so frustrating when you have fat, you don't know how it got there, and don't know how to get rid of it. It feels like a curse. I really am not eating badly to get a belly-fat like that.

Maybe I should stop eating these chicken/beef/egg wraps at the organic health food store. I only eat a muffin now and then and mainly drink stevia sweetened teas and I do some walking around the house. This is like a horror movie with me to have belly fat AND eating a healthy diet and exercising. I'm hoping to start the bike season soon but there is the stupid pandemic ruining that or I would have started already. Maybe I worry too much about catching this virus and I should take some more risks, like biking outdoors. I mean generally as long I'm biking by myself I should be fine right? You shouldn't need a mask for that.

There is enough critical mass now a week has passed so the pull to fap may have weakened so it should be easier to maintain nofap for the time being. But, when frustrated by belly-fat, there is a pull to look at escort-pics.....I will resist the urge to look at escort pics because that COULD lead to wanting to fap and release. The pics offer escape from thinking about my belly-fat. Its my job to resist all that, because we all know where that will lead. Got a nice connection with that lady from the store yesterday so maybe other nice things will happen along the nofap path.

My plan now is to look at some good Christian programming to get my mind in the right place.
 
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U r not an expat, dont be delusional, u r a student.

If u r so busy with life and its good, you won't even have the time nor luxury to be thinking abt this nonsensical ideas.

U will be too busy enjoying life as it is.

Now u r busy suffering life and not enjoying it, that's why ideas such as no fap crops into ur mind.

And u r mad right now because I created doubt since u were putting ur hopes that this will solve ur problems.

It doesn't, it hasn't and will never UNLESS you find the root cause of ur misery.

Tackle that and this sort of delusional miracles will never appear in ur mind.
You've just proven everybody that you're an idiot. Good job!
 

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Now I thought about that lady in the store in the morning and was hugging my pillows. It looks like she really said hi very enthusiastically yesterday. Okay. What came to mind is I should practice asking girls for their phone number by practicing to so so out loud several times a day so its not a big deal to blurt that out of my mouth. For some reason there is a mental block asking a girl for her phone number. The last time I asked any girl for their phone number was earlier in 2020. That, and brainstorm and practice some general small talk or something like that. Maybe talking out loud on how I would flirt with or close a girl might make some sense.
 

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Tell yourself that. You have spoken your position that you are against nofap. Therefore you have an agenda and nothing you are saying can be trusted. People can respect the fact you have an opinion, but being a d1ck on a self-improvement thread is what haters do.
And how exactly is no fap helping you?

But better yet, where are those buggers who were singing the same tune and claiming miracles dozens of no fap threads in the past ?

You think that just by doing nothing you somehow improved ?
 

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Relapsed last night. Had difficulty sleeping, was having difficulty breathing through my nose because it was blocked. Thought I had Covid-19 and freaked out and looked at escort pics (like that would help if I did????) Had a bad dream afterwards that my mother caught covid and couldn't breathe. I woke-up relieved that everyone is fine and nobody here has covid. My dad got vaccinated and I might get vaccinated myself soon too.
 
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