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American guys go NoFap in order to improve their situation with women. Mikedee is doing NoFap to achieve Zen because he's surrounded by so much pvssy. You guys can't imagine how easy it is for this guy to get laid.
Ehh, not 100% true.
I have no problem meeting hot girls (9-10s), I mean if a see a Victoria Secret model on the street, I will go talk to her, no problem with that. Not intimidated by hot girls. Yes I will have AA, but I will go talk to her and I might get her number.
But getting laid is a different story (I have a logistic problem+ more money would help). If I hadn't that logistic problem, I would get laid on a regular basis.

I do noFap to improve my situation with girls, and to be in control of my state, I like to feel like a man, not a guy who spend all day fapping in front of screen. You know when you fap 3-4 times in a row, you're not gonna conquer the world...

Today was a good day and I'm gonna explain you why, things start to change, I will write later tonight about it.
 
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Day 9

I approached a girl at the university today. When I saw her with her long blond hair, her tight black skirt and black boots I had no choise but to go talk to her. She was alone, I took my shot. She was looking for her class, I said hi and we began to talk. We chatted for 3-4 minutes, I was a bit sweaty but it didn't show, my hands were shaking but found her way to hide it. She gave me her phone and entered it herself in my phone, I told her I had to leave and left, she had to go to her class too. She sent choosing signals, played with her hair, asked questions .. I was a bit all over the place but I did well. I looked badass today. When I entered class, my classmates (mostly girls) looked at me like oh shot and said "bad boyyy". I think it was a solid # close. Here is the girl, sorry for the picture, it's her instagram avatar. She is my type, young, tall, long hair, skinny. She must be 20-21-22. The approach was all in Russian (my third language), I think she got wet, because even if I made mistakes, I was tight. It's just the beginning... more girls to come.

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It felt good man, my vibe is coming back slowly. I was nervous but I didn't think twice, there was an opportunity, I wanted to meet that girl and thats it. I don't know if it's gonna work with her, but now I know that I can approach almost any girls and it's gonna be fine, confidence has increased. I don't know what you think of her, it doesn't really matter but for me she is a 9. I must be honest with you. I'm physically gifted, I'm tall, fit, and everything.. I'm often referred as the tall dark handsome guy. I'm not a male model but I have no problem to attract really hot girls. Dont want to brag, just want to explain that it's not noFap that gets me girls like that (noFap is good though), my look helps a lot. But I get rejected often, really often. Look only is not enough, game is important. I see some guys at school, they are surround with girls like that, and they dont brush their teeth or make an effort to look good (grooming, clothes). It blow my minds. Girls send me choosing signals all the time, it's a joke. the problem is that they are always in group, 2-3-4+. really difficult to approach (social pressure from peers), when they are alone it's a lot easier.

At the same time, I feel a bit insecure, the girl I was dating didn't answer my text yesterday, first time in a month. I know she is leaving on vacation on saturday morning + she's really busy at work, but I have the feeling that her attraction is fading away, she is gonna ghost me. Maybe not, maybe it's in my head but she usually is the one chasing and now she is more distant. I'm not gonna text her, if she texts cool, if not, next. Now I know I can meet hot girls like the one I met today. It's strange because I have an abundance mindset but at the same time I'm a bit insecure. It's going to adjust by itself as the NoFap goes on.

I feel better, definitely. I feel for approaching girl, I feel attractive. I can't wait to go buy new clothes, and see and approach hot girls at the mall this weekend. Spring is coming, snow is melting, there wont be covid here this summer. i think it's gonna be a cool summer. Plus, Im focused on my projects. There is nothing more I can do except to keep doing what I do right now. The only thing that kills my fun is the feeling that I'm getting older, I'm in my mid-thirties, when shaved and groomed I look like 26-27, some girls tell me I look like 24. Nice, but the reality is that I'm getting older and I'm not where I want to be. I have a logistic problem taht complicates things with the girls I date (no place to have sex), that's a real problem and for now there is no way to fix it really. It svcks big time. I have to find a way.

Wish my good luck, still some things to fix but overall, I'm going the right way.

That was day 9
 

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I happened on this video, which is related to this topic. I thought it was interesting because it has a somewhat different approach. This guy states that giving in to fapping is essentially giving in to the feminine voice. I'm not sure I fully agree with that, but there's a good point in there somewhere. He also makes some Biblical references, which you don't see a lot of in manosphere videos. So, if anyone finds it useful, great.

 

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The irony isn't lost on me that this nofap thing is literally the opposite approach to mine. I try and
avoid getting physical with women. Steaming towards a 2 year streak now!!
I'm aroused by the female form but I am also a walking intimacy/interpersonal car crash so prefer to
fap any urges away which might make me act out of character and do something regrettable.
 

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I happened on this video, which is related to this topic. I thought it was interesting because it has a somewhat different approach. This guy states that giving in to fapping is essentially giving in to the feminine voice. I'm not sure I fully agree with that, but there's a good point in there somewhere. He also makes some Biblical references, which you don't see a lot of in manosphere videos. So, if anyone finds it useful, great.

Taking advice from a 25 year old.. Right... Cause a 25 year old has all the answers in sex and relationships.
 

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Taking advice from a 25 year old.. Right... Cause a 25 year old has all the answers in sex and relationships.
At what age does anyone have all the answers about anything in life?

Advice should be separated from the age of the advice-giver.

A 25-year old man whose been on these forums for 10 years, and applies the concepts he has learned here, has probably a better understanding of women and dating (and more success) then a 50-year old man who was clueless about women his entire life until the internet came along.

That being said, without watching the video, most young creators on YouTube in the self-growth category basically just regurgitate content they get elsewhere and pass it off like they attained it through personal experience... So I get your point.
 

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At what age does anyone have all the answers about anything in life?

Advice should be separated from the age of the advice-giver.

A 25-year old man whose been on these forums for 10 years, and applies the concepts he has learned here, has probably a better understanding of women and dating (and more success) then a 50-year old man who was clueless about women his entire life until the internet came along.

That being said, without watching the video, most young creators on YouTube in the self-growth category basically just regurgitate content they get elsewhere and pass it off like they attained it through personal experience... So I get your point.
Very good points. However, doubtful that a 25 year old dude can advise a dude or multiple dudes in their marriage. He said he was in the first minute or so and then stopped the video. That's like asking Dr. Phil on advice on how to deal with depression and emotional disorders with medicine.
 

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That being said, without watching the video, most young creators on YouTube in the self-growth category basically just regurgitate content they get elsewhere and pass it off like they attained it through personal experience.
That's definitely true. That's why I posted the video. Not because I thought people should take his advice, but because I thought he had a unique spin on the subject. As you say, most people just repeat the same content we've heard a thousand times. But his basic message was saying don't fap (or at least cut down on it), so most guys at least would find that solid.
 

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I happened on this video, which is related to this topic. I thought it was interesting because it has a somewhat different approach. This guy states that giving in to fapping is essentially giving in to the feminine voice. I'm not sure I fully agree with that, but there's a good point in there somewhere. He also makes some Biblical references, which you don't see a lot of in manosphere videos. So, if anyone finds it useful, great.

interesting video
 

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Day 10 is ending

I feel a bit down today, yesterday was exciting, today was boring. I texted the girl I met at school yesterday, she replied quickly but it was basic conversation, we'll see how it goes. I have to be careful not to text her too much. She's not gonna go to university for 2 weeks but she told me what day exactly she will. I dont know if I should invite her on a date asap, or take my time and try to see her in two weeks while texting her here and there. What do you think? I'm still struggling with abundance mindset. Because even I talk to many girls and get a phones numbers, most of the time it goes nowhere. It's difficult to set dates I keep thinking about the fact that I do my best to meet women but it's still difficult, it's not easy to meet, date and get laid with hot girls. Yesterday I was talking to my roommate, a young Russian, I told him that I had met that girl at the university. He's a good looking guy, nice style, more alpha than beta, he told me: I cant do that, I just cant (speaking about cold approaching women). So being able to meet woman like that is a skill that a lot of men dream about, but even if you can cold approach, it's difficult.

I keep working on my projects, I do my homework, go to the gym. Tomorrow evening Im gonna go shopping, I need to go out a bit, see people, see girls, approach. I was in control today, but when I feel down, it's more difficult to resist the temptation. Spring is here, it's cool but it makes me anxious, it means summer is coming and during summer there are hot girls everywhere, I want them all! What I find difficult with noFap is that as the days pass, you become more horny, and when you are horny you can do mistakes (neediness), you have to self monitor all the time.

that's it for today
 

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Day 10 is ending

I feel a bit down today, yesterday was exciting, today was boring. I texted the girl I met at school yesterday, she replied quickly but it was basic conversation, we'll see how it goes. I have to be careful not to text her too much. She's not gonna go to university for 2 weeks but she told me what day exactly she will. I dont know if I should invite her on a date asap, or take my time and try to see her in two weeks while texting her here and there. What do you think? I'm still struggling with abundance mindset. Because even I talk to many girls and get a phones numbers, most of the time it goes nowhere. It's difficult to set dates I keep thinking about the fact that I do my best to meet women but it's still difficult, it's not easy to meet, date and get laid with hot girls. Yesterday I was talking to my roommate, a young Russian, I told him that I had met that girl at the university. He's a good looking guy, nice style, more alpha than beta, he told me: I cant do that, I just cant (speaking about cold approaching women). So being able to meet woman like that is a skill that a lot of men dream about, but even if you can cold approach, it's difficult.

I keep working on my projects, I do my homework, go to the gym. Tomorrow evening Im gonna go shopping, I need to go out a bit, see people, see girls, approach. I was in control today, but when I feel down, it's more difficult to resist the temptation. Spring is here, it's cool but it makes me anxious, it means summer is coming and during summer there are hot girls everywhere, I want them all! What I find difficult with noFap is that as the days pass, you become more horny, and when you are horny you can do mistakes (neediness), you have to self monitor all the time.

that's it for today
You are allowed to have sex during a "no fap" stint. What will happen is if you "fap" often while your not having a girlfriend is that over time that real live images of females won't turn you on as much. It will take MUCH more to turn you on. Once your in a period of "no fap", your brain will start to get excited by camel toes, boobs and asses even on normal babes. Whereas during "fapping" those weren't turning you on. Also your masculine animal is hungry and wants to eat, something you artificially soothe by "fapping". Take out that "reward" system. I'm a proponent of maybe not having the best looking babe for sex if you aren't able to currently lay with your preference. Your options will increase as your masculine and sexual man is fed. You need to be having sex, unless for whatever reason it is a big distraction for you.
 

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You are allowed to have sex during a "no fap" stint. What will happen is if you "fap" often while your not having a girlfriend is that over time that real live images of females won't turn you on as much. It will take MUCH more to turn you on. Once your in a period of "no fap", your brain will start to get excited by camel toes, boobs and asses even on normal babes. Whereas during "fapping" those weren't turning you on. Also your masculine animal is hungry and wants to eat, something you artificially soothe by "fapping". Take out that "reward" system. I'm a proponent of maybe not having the best looking babe for sex if you aren't able to currently lay with your preference. Your options will increase as your masculine and sexual man is fed. You need to be having sex, unless for whatever reason it is a big distraction for you.
Fortunately, I don't have porn related ED. Even if I would fap 5-6 times a day everyday, I would still get turned on when I see a nice azz and a pair of long skinny legs. I get turned on easily, I've never had any ED or desire issues in my life. But I don't get hard if the girl is not my type, I refuse to lower my standards just for the sake of getting laid, I don't do that. I have no interest in having sex with a girl who does not excite me. If she is normal, she is not a babe.

Of course I want to have sex but the problem is not the HB level, I think there is not a big difference in getting a 7 or a 10 in bed, of course there is a difference but not that much. It's the same principles. I'm not avoiding sex, I'm doing noFap to have more sex (and for other reasons too). It's more difficult here, my logistics are not good, and there is a cultural thing. The dating process takes more time here.
 
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my biggest take from NOFAP is my erections are dangerous and i can be aroused by ANY woman. This is worth it alone..

trouble is around 9 days in i get insane urges
 

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Even if I would fap 5-6 times a day everyday, I would still get turned on when I see a nice azz and a pair of long skinny legs.
Interesting point. At times I have felt like I have sex just to get some "peace", and free myself from the distraction so I can focus on other more important things. The frustration builds up and you seek satisfaction. But to some extent it doesn't really work, it just takes the edge off. Because as you note, even after you are satisfied you can see some attractive lass and the tension starts to build up again.
 

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Fortunately, I don't have porn related ED. Even if I would fap 5-6 times a day everyday, I would still get turned on when I see a nice azz and a pair of long skinny legs. I get turned on easily, I've never had any ED or desire issues in my life. But I don't get hard if the girl is not my type, I refuse to lower my standards just for the sake of getting laid, I don't do that. I have no interest in having sex with a girl who does not excite me. If she is normal, she is not a babe.

Of course I want to have sex but the problem is not the HB level, I think there is not a big difference in getting a 7 or a 10 in bed, of course there is a difference but not that much. It's the same principles. I'm not avoiding sex, I'm doing noFap to have more sex (and for other reasons too). It's more difficult here, my logistics are not good, and there is a cultural thing. The dating process takes more time here.
And you know yourself and what works on you. So you have the right to your viewpoint.

Many of the guys don't know or accept it but sometimes dropping your look standard and taking the pvssy thats offered will get your sex life moving in the right direction. You can get picky after you have options.
 

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And you know yourself and what works on you. So you have the right to your viewpoint.

Many of the guys don't know or accept it but sometimes dropping your look standard and taking the pvssy thats offered will get your sex life moving in the right direction. You can get picky after you have options.
I know I'm going to catch flak for this but I love this show. If I were a single guy, I'd probably list myself at this dating agency. My 16 y/o cousin is autistic as hell and she's going to grow up to be an hb 9. They're worried about her getting pregnant because she is really feminine and totally innocent.

 

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I know I'm going to catch flak for this but I love this show. If I were a single guy, I'd probably list myself at this dating agency. My 16 y/o cousin is autistic as hell and she's going to grow up to be an hb 9. They're worried about her getting pregnant because she is really feminine and totally innocent.

Locario just did an episode on getting one date a week and a 10-25% lay rate will get you in the game. Guys working good in the game hit over 50%.

Here's the episode. It will let you make more peace with the numbers game aspect.
 
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Locario just did an episode on getting one date a week and a 10-25% lay rate will get you in the game. Guys working good in the game hit over 50%.

Here's the episode. It will let you make more peace with the numbers game aspect.
Now when Locario brings up this point, my cynical jaded mind wants to go right to "oh, date females. They just want to use you for a free dinner, etc". But then again, he is right on the numbers aspect. If you keep moving on from females who aren't trying to get it in with you, you will "run through" ( no pun intended ) some who ARE trying to get it in with you.
 

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Day 11

I got lazy today, I should have approached a girl at school but I didn't, another girl at the super market but I'm gonna see her again she lives in my dorm. I went shopping, it felt good. There were a lot of hot girls at the mall, when I entered in ZARA it was packed with hot chicks. I saw a really hot girl waiting I wanted to approach her, a good thing I didn't, I knew she was waiting for someone. A few minutes later I saw her again with her boyfriend, the guy looked like a MMA fighter, you dont want to have trouble with those guys (daghestan, georgia, chechenia..), they usually are very jealous and violent.

I bought some clothes, it's gonna help. I felt nervous when I was at the mall, I had performance anxiety, it's a weird feeling. I'm might go shopping again tomorrow or sunday. I feel bad because I didn't approach today, I should have approached that girl at school, it was a good opportunity. I'm supposed to have a date tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.
 

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And you know yourself and what works on you. So you have the right to your viewpoint.

Many of the guys don't know or accept it but sometimes dropping your look standard and taking the pvssy thats offered will get your sex life moving in the right direction. You can get picky after you have options.
I'm not picky, I know what I want, there is a difference. I have no interest in having sex with a girl I'm not attracted to.
 
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