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My Movie Review: Blue Valentine

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I saw a few posters talk about this movie recently on SS. Ryan Gosling and Michelle Williams are both good actors, so I watched it last night.

My thoughts and review:

The movie is quite good and was up for many awards. Both Gosling and Williams were also nominated multiple times. I won't go into the plot in details, you can read about it or watch the movie. The writers were quite accurate, IMO, about what happens in most marriages and LTRs. They wrote from experience, is my guess.

Some notes:

- I thought Gosling was superb. Was never a huge fan of him, but this movie changed my opinion. I can't help but think at some point he's seen the original Rocky movie (Academy Award for Best Picture 1977), and imitated or channeled Stallone's character, Rocky Balboa. Sans the boxing part, the mannerisms, thinking, speech, attitude, wit, many features of the characters are very similar.

- Williams was very good too. The part that really stuck with me was how appalled and disgusted she was when Dean (Gosling) was trying to make love to her on the floor of the hotel. She gritted her teeth like she just could stand it even though he was trying to be spontaneous and romantic. She just didn’t even want him to touch her. Sinking feeling as he was still very in love with her.

- Gosling is depicted for the most part as the White Knight, marrying Cindy (Williams) after she gets knocked up by another guy. Dean isn’t a p*ussy per se, and he appears to be a really good dad and husband, keeping things light by acting goofy and showing affection to Frankie (kid) and Cindy. BUT, as has been discussed HEAVILY on SS for decades now, he is largely unmotivated with few aspirations. This plus his drinking proves to be his undoing with Cindy. She likely wanted better for her and her daughter. She was a nurse and was likely tired of towing the line the past 5 years.

- There is a part in the movie where Dean is talking to a co-worker. He comments that women are always pursuing “Prince Charming” (Alpha/IDGAF Guy) but always settle for the stable guy with the good job (Beta Male Provider). VERY TRUE.

- The ending is sad, but accurate. I felt really bad for Dean because he was offering his love and support the best he knew how; trying to be a good father and husband despite his challenges, which though evident, never really seemed adversely affect the family.

- Cindy simply falls out of love with him despite the way he treats her, which is depicted as quite good until she starts pulling away, then he loses his marbles but never hits her, etc. He’s just deeply hurt.

- The movie ends with Dean pleading for her to change her mind for theirs and Frankie’s sake, but she saying she has NOTHING left for him, zero. She also says she prefers Frankie not grow up in a household where the two parents despise each other. Really sad, I can relate on many levels. But, that's life. Nothing is forever. Dean is shown in the final scene dejected and sullen, walking out of the house and down the sidewalk as Frankie pleads and cries for him to stay. He tells her to go back to her mom as he continues walking as people are setting off fireworks for the 4th of July. The movie ends. Pictures are shown during the credits from their courtship where they both look so happy and in love. There are also flashbacks to this point throughout the movie which makes the ending even sadder and more gut wrenching when you see how far they, mainly Cindy, have fallen out of love.

Takeaways:

- Marriage and LTRs are HUGE gambles. You can do everything "right' as a man and the woman can and usually will fall out of love with you at some point in which it become more of a partnership. Especially in 2021. Think twice about betting everything you have on that.

- It is mainly the man’s (as the leader) responsibility to keep the woman interested, even in marriage. Sacrificing your life, dreams, and goals for her are not the answer and a turn-off in the long run. Being "nice" isn't the answer to a successful marriage or LTR.

-Have goals and aspirations and PURPOSE for two main reasons: 1) You will feel more fulfilled as a person and contributor on this planet. 2) Women are hugely attracted to men with these qualities, not chronic slackers and lazy asses.

Good watch. I'd recommend it. 4.5/5 Stars.

Ciao,

Dash
 
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Brilliant review. I saw the movie just last week from a fellow DJ's recommendation. The movie hit me hard as well, although not to such dire circumstances but I went through a similar ex-relationship recently.
 

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Brilliant review. I saw the movie just last week from a fellow DJ's recommendation. The movie hit me hard as well, although not to such dire circumstances but I went through a similar ex-relationship recently.
Yeah, hit me hard too. Anyone who has had a marriage or LTR *slowly* devolve and dissipate can relate.
 

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A few years ago, I had been intending to watch that movie as it has been cited as a red pill movie. I never got around to it. Thanks for the review.

Marriage and LTRs are HUGE gambles. You can do everything "right' as a man and the woman can and usually will fall out of love with you at some point in which it become more of a partnership. Especially in 2021. Think twice about betting everything you have on that.
In the last few years, I've fallen into the idea of that all relationships are transients. This forum doesn't talk enough about game as a means of keeping a woman interested. Holding the initial frame that seduced her is so important for keeping her around for some time.

I think LTRs are good but they even have a shelf life of goodness if you hold initial red pill type frame.

It is mainly the man’s (as the leader) responsibility to keep the woman interested, even in marriage. Sacrificing your life, dreams, and goals for her are not the answer and a turn-off in the long run. Being "nice" isn't the answer to a successful marriage or LTR.
Yes. This is tied into holding frame above.

-Have goals and aspirations and PURPOSE for two main reasons: 1) You will feel more fulfilled as a person and contributor on this planet. 2) Women are hugely attracted to men with these qualities, not chronic slackers and lazy asses.
Makes sense. A lot of guys into pickup and seduction have a goal to be a high quality seducer. It is better if there are goals in life besides seducing women.
 
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Would love to find other great movies like this. If you guys have not seen it yet definitely check out Sex/Life. Although not as deep, basically shows you how a BP guy can be treated equally like sheet.
 

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There's one movie the late great Doc Love talked about. Came out in 90s or early 2000s.

About a girl who gets knocked up by her Alpha ass*hole boyfriend. He wants nothing to do with her or the kid. The girl's plantonic male friend, who's madly in love with her, offers all this support and sells a bunch of his possessions to pay for her abortion. She leads him on and he thinks he has a chance but she deflects his romantic advances. She gets the abortion he paid for. At the end of the movie, they're at a party and he sees the girl, clenched and making out with the guy that knocked her up. The movie ends.

Damn, lol.

That's all I remember but Doc Love said to watch it because its spot-on re: women's thinking.

Maybe someone knows the name of the movie.
 

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About a girl who gets knocked up by her Alpha ass*hole boyfriend. He wants nothing to do with her or the kid. The girl's plantonic male friend, who's madly in love with her, offers all this support and sells a bunch of his possessions to pay for her abortion. She leads him on and he thinks he has a chance but she deflects his romantic advances. She gets the abortion he paid for. At the end of the movie, they're at a party and he sees the girl, clenched and making out with the guy that knocked her up. The movie ends.

That's all I remember but Doc Love said to watch it because its spot-on re: women's thinking.

Maybe someone knows the name of the movie.
I'd like to know the name of the movie. That seems like a realistic portrayal of women's thinking.
 

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The sequel will be called Black Valentine, will detail the wife's rotation of gigantic black men that her poor cuck ex-husband couldn't possibly compete with
 
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Looks like a missed 2010 movie with me. Added it to amazon prime watchlist.
 

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This movie is one of my top 5 favorites movies list. I make my potential girlfriends watch it. The ones that love it can move to the next round. The ones that say " omg its too depressing" or " I dont get it"..
they get nexted.

The acting in Blue Valentine seemed too real. It looked like a documentary on modern love. The acting was visceral. Masterpiece of a film. The director based it on his parents divorce. Too bad the director dropped the ball in his next film called a Place Beyond the Pines.

Another great movie is Vicky Christina Barcelona. It is very Redpill. Beautiful scenery and good acting.
 

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- Marriage and LTRs are HUGE gambles. You can do everything "right' as a man and the woman can and usually will fall out of love with you at some point in which it become more of a partnership. Especially in 2021. Think twice about betting everything you have on that.
Indeed, a gamble is a good comparison. For the guys that play poker (especially poker tournaments), you can make all the right moves and right decisions, but a lot of times you'll still lose because you either got unlucky or the other person makes irrational decisions and they somehow got lucky and beat you.

Same with relationships, you can make all the right moves, but if your partner makes irrational decisions, it ultimately won't work out.

That's because we don't live in a vacuum, the actions of others directly impact our lives.
 

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Good watch. I'd recommend it. 4.5/5 Stars.
May check it out. Any movies 5/5?

One of my favourites is Shawshank Redemption. Nothing to do with women but still a great movie.
 

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This movie is one of my top 5 favorites movies list. I make my potential girlfriends watch it. The ones that love it can move to the next round. The ones that say " omg its too depressing" or " I dont get it"..
they get nexted.

The acting in Blue Valentine seemed too real. It looked like a documentary on modern love. The acting was visceral. Masterpiece of a film. The director based it on his parents divorce. Too bad the director dropped the ball in his next film called a Place Beyond the Pines.

Another great movie is Vicky Christina Barcelona. It is very Redpill. Beautiful scenery and good acting.
Read the Wiki or Imdb page for Blue Valentine. A lot of it was improvised, especially the fights on screen. Gosling and Williams even lived together in a small apartment for a month on $200 every other week to prepare to play working class parts. The scene where Gosling plays the ukulele and Williams dances was total improv. All of this made it seem very "real" as there were rarely lines to rehearse.
 

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There's one movie the late great Doc Love talked about. Came out in 90s or early 2000s.

About a girl who gets knocked up by her Alpha ass*hole boyfriend. He wants nothing to do with her or the kid. The girl's plantonic male friend, who's madly in love with her, offers all this support and sells a bunch of his possessions to pay for her abortion. She leads him on and he thinks he has a chance but she deflects his romantic advances. She gets the abortion he paid for. At the end of the movie, they're at a party and he sees the girl, clenched and making out with the guy that knocked her up. The movie ends.

Damn, lol.

That's all I remember but Doc Love said to watch it because its spot-on re: women's thinking.

Maybe someone knows the name of the movie.
I'd like to know the name of the movie. That seems like a realistic portrayal of women's thinking.
Last American Virgin.
 
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