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I’m 24 now and all of my hs friends are going no where. They drink smoke and do drugs all the time. Spending their time instead of investing it. Do I just ditch them and find better friends? Kind of harsh but I think I have to. What do the older guys here think?
 

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I’m 24 now and all of my hs friends are going no where. They drink smoke and do drugs all the time. Spending their time instead of investing it. Do I just ditch them and find better friends? Kind of harsh but I think I have to. What do the older guys here think?
when you surround yourself with people in a higher league they will hold you accountable. They won’t let you get away with the same things your loser friends likely will enable.

And then when you show up to lesser groups you will carry an authoritative vibe about you that will allow you to uplift and motivate them.

So yes to seeking higher quality people. But at some point you will be tasked to raise others.
 

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I’m 24 now and all of my hs friends are going no where. They drink smoke and do drugs all the time. Spending their time instead of investing it. Do I just ditch them and find better friends? Kind of harsh but I think I have to. What do the older guys here think?
Not every man matures and gets life oriented at the same time. Your friends are obviously lagging in regards to that and bothering you, so find some that are on the same channel as you. A better crowd will actually help speed up your own development…
 

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Not every man matures and gets life oriented at the same time. Your friends are obviously lagging in regards to that and bothering you, so find some that are on the same channel as you. A better crowd will actually help speed up your own development…
Spent too much time on people going nowhere. Will only spend time with those whose skills I respect
 

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I had friends in the past that were an anchor chained around my neck, I got rid of them slowly but surely and things got better. You don't have to be an assshole about it but you need to find better people that will bring more value to your life. You can't sacrifice your growth for other people. This may sound selfish but in reality it isn't, as you build your value you bring more value to society and in this way you end up benefiting others including your loser friends.
 
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I’m 24 now and all of my hs friends are going no where. They drink smoke and do drugs all the time. Spending their time instead of investing it. Do I just ditch them and find better friends? Kind of harsh but I think I have to. What do the older guys here think?
If you areare doing game, pickuppicku, getting baeeees, pulling girls, are red pilled, and living that DJ lifestyle, guys drop off. My mates from high school I'm still close with. There's a challenge with time and life in general but, I make the time. There's many who are married wife, kidskids, etc. There's a significant amount of difference between my path but I won't ditch them.

There's a element of game not discussed. Pull baeeees. Chat dudes. Make new friends. Get a gym partner. DHV everywhere. Its dropping nukes but in the form of charm and charisma. If he friends are cucked and salting game, they will drop off naturally.

Stick to the script. Finish the job. Focus on you. Purpose!
 

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Yes. Loser friends will hold you back. We all are a product of our environments. You need to surround yourself with winners go getters

**** the World. Be the best you can
 

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I’m 24 now and all of my hs friends are going no where. They drink smoke and do drugs all the time. Spending their time instead of investing it. Do I just ditch them and find better friends? Kind of harsh but I think I have to. What do the older guys here think?
I had some similar friends that were going nowhere. I didn't stop calling them my friends, I just stopped agreeing to hang out with them.

If they were going out drinking... "Nah, I'm good. I gotta save money." Something along those lines of I just don't want to go. Once every 2 months I might say yes but I focused most of my time reading books, coming up with business ideas and trying to implement them, working overtime, etc. When i would go out with them, I'd have fun but it would be once in a blue moon. I lived on bare minimum and focused on paying off my debt, gettting promoted, climbing the corporate ladder by job hopping, taking calculated risks, and finding/surrounding myself with people better than me that I could learn from.

In 10 years, I now I make a nice six figure salary, travel the world, net worth in 7 figures, have millionaire and billionaire friends that are trying to do amazing things, lived in NYC, Asia, Silicon Valley, and now about to move to San Francisco. My startup I was just at was acquired last month. Women were/are not a problem (although I'm married now). My friends however........

They are right where I left them 10 years ago. Dating within the same social circle with tthe pickings getting slimmer for the ones not married. Salaries 20-25% higher than it was 10 years ago while mine is 200-300% higher than their salaries.
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How they view me? The weird crazy one. I do the crazy things I say i'm going to do, which to them sounds ridiculous and crazy. They always doubted and ridiculed me in the beginning but after accomplishing so many of these things, they don't doubt me anymore. Many ask me for help and opportunities. I've even hired about 5-6 of them for part time skilled labor and paid them out various times. The part time work part was interesting because when i was younger they all ridiculed me and wouldn't help/work with me, now many of them work for me for various odd jobs.

This is for my burb friends that actually went to college and got an education and are participating in the system (cog in the wheel of corporate america). My city friends that never went to college are way worse. Working in casino's as dealers, living at home with parents at 30+, etc.

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This period of growth and change was a very awkward one for me and probably is very similar to most that traverse this path. Having very few close friends (no one wants to put themselves through the grinder and sacrifice short term immediate fun), little social life, a lot of self reflection, loneliness, dating was minimal, etc. The positives were that I paid off my debt, I learned a lot from reading/studying/applying, met amazing people, failed and eventually succeeded.
 
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You can freely mix with people, despite their diverse backgrounds, it's not a problem nor is it a hindrance if you as a man have ambitions.

If you are highly ambitious, you will have a plan, even if its simple and take action to materialise it.

Success is just a series of failures.
 
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You should always be trying to make new friends and acquaintances in my opinion.
 

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Spent too much time on people going nowhere. Will only spend time with those whose skills I respect
I'm actually gonna disagree with most of the other posters on the subject.
Friends are friends and usually not people that you respect for their skills. They are fun, they are supportive and someone you can count on. That's why you're friends, right? I never "break up" with any of my friends. You never know when you're gonna bump into them.
Just keep your friends close and your acquaitances out there, while meeting new people regularily.
If you have your principles and you stick to them, it won't matter that they smoke and do drugs. And maybe they will see you being brave and resisting temptations and will be encouraged to do the same. Maybe you'll save a friend's future, his life through this. You never know.
 

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I'm actually gonna disagree with most of the other posters on the subject.
Friends are friends and usually not people that you respect for their skills. They are fun, they are supportive and someone you can count on. That's why you're friends, right? I never "break up" with any of my friends. You never know when you're gonna bump into them.
Just keep your friends close and your acquaitances out there, while meeting new people regularily.
If you have your principles and you stick to them, it won't matter that they smoke and do drugs. And maybe they will see you being brave and resisting temptations and will be encouraged to do the same. Maybe you'll save a friend's future, his life through this. You never know.
I slightly disagree with this because people come together through shared values and interests. There is a common ground between friends. Water seeks its own level. It’s a natural principle of attraction.

Me and people who do drugs are like oil and water. We don’t mix. I also do not mix well with people who overcompensate, needy people, and toxic people.

There are people who are miserable and find joy in bringing people to their level. They will envy your positive nature and ambition and try to bring you down. It’s human nature.

Your very presence triggers their inferiority complex, and rather than doing something with their lives, they’d rather try to bring you down to make themselves feel better.

It’s called the crab mentality and it usually rears it’s ugly head when you try to transcend your limits. When you try to change. You will find that your own friends and even family are the ones most resistant to your change. Because improving will reflect back to them their own flaws.

This is the psychology of a hater.

And often times these people are the closest to you.

You cannot save people. You can only bring them to the water but can’t force them to drink it.

If someone becomes a liability, I dismiss them
 
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It depends. My friends and I did ALOT of stuff together. We've traveled, we've gone to numerous sporting events, got a lot of girls, fought each other, fought others, helped each other, etc. And although we're going down different paths and don't share a lot of the same viewpoints in life, no new friend I make can replace what I've had with these guys. Losers or not. I've moved cities multiple times and made new friends but they weren't my bros like my HS friends. So again it depends. If you feel you and your HS friends haven't done a whole lot in the past or maybe they're causing a negative impact in your life today, then you probably should find a new pack. But if they're anything like mine, just know that they won't be easily replaced.
 

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I slightly disagree with this because people come together through shared values and interests. There is a common ground between friends. Water seeks its own level. It’s a natural principle of attraction.

Me and people who do drugs are like oil and water. We don’t mix. I also do not mix well with people who overcompensate, needy people, and toxic people.

There are people who are miserable and find joy in bringing people to their level. They will envy your positive nature and ambition and try to bring you down. It’s human nature.

Your very presence triggers their inferiority complex, and rather than doing something with their lives, they’d rather try to bring you down to make themselves feel better.

It’s called the crab mentality and it usually rears it’s ugly head when you try to transcend your limits. When you try to change. You will find that your own friends and even family are the ones most resistant to your change. Because improving will reflect back to them their own flaws.

This is the psychology of a hater.

And often times these people are the closest to you.

You cannot save people. You can only bring them to the water but can’t force them to drink it.

If someone becomes a liability, I dismiss them
Depends, I guess.
I only kept close a few friends, friends that have flaws, of course. Like all people. But I am strong now, so just because at parties some of them smoke, it doesn't mean I have to do it too. Just like it's always preached here, if you keep your "frame", it doesn't matter what they do, you stay the same way. That's how I feel at least.
 
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Depends, I guess.
I only kept close a few friends, friends that have flaws, of course. Like all people. But I am strong now, so just because at parties some of them smoke, it doesn't mean I have to do it too. Just like it's always preached here, if you keep your "frame", it doesn't matter what they do, you stay the same way. That's how I feel at least.
In my experience the “hate” comes when you make drastic changes. Like when you transcend into another stratosphere of money, fitness, and females.

Ive had friends try to put me down in the past and I had to leave them behind.

You might not notice it when you guys are relatively in the same wavelength.

But when you elevate your wavelength, you will reflect back to them their own lack and that’s when they will have two choices. Either work on themselves or bring you down. Actually the third choice is support you. Those are the true friends.
 

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Told them all the **** off. Not going back to my old life.
Your don't have to.

There's a disconnect between my generation and say millennial men. I had a convo and a millennial man had a sissy **** fit. There's nothing offensive nor confrontational.

There's a lot of guys simp and low testosterone. Its pATHETIC.
 
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